Donald Trump

[SWP's back]

Is that the same as not all Muslims are terrorist but all terrorist are Muslim?

Yes. So long as we ignore the Irish.

 

[Tanzeylee]

Yes. So long as we ignore the Irish.

the who?

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Yes. So long as we ignore the Irish.

I try and ignore that @aguero93:20 bloke as much as possible

 

[west didsblue]

So do you really believe that at any point in the last 20 years the UK has had a Labour govt with traditional Labour values? Or a Conservative govt with traditional Conservative values?

Also in the same time period have the U.S. had a Republican govt with traditional Republican values? Or a Democrat govt with traditional Democrat values?

Because all I've seen in the last 20 years in both countries is a succession of govts who's aims and policies have done nothing but continually enrich and empower the banks, the corporations and wealthy asset owning classes. Whist the working/middle classes have become dis-empowered, disenfranchised, indebted and materially poorer than ever before.

The most apt description I've heard for neo-lib/neo-con policies is that it is socialism for the banks, the corps and wealthy elite... how anyone can argue that we've not had that for the last 20 years is beyond me.

Didn't really say any of that. What you've described is capitalism which has been proven to work better than the alternative. The election of Trump sort of disproves the dis-empowered and disenfranchised comment but it remains to be seen whether he will actually do anything to help them.

 

[SWP's back]

and materially poorer than ever before.

That's not even close to being correct.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Good to see you're condemning the violence(eventually) tho you have form for turning a blind eyes to violence, "just a few dickheads at West Ham" but maybe you should ask Watford/Sunderland/Bournemouth/Chelsea fans for their opinions

Completely off topic- but many of them fans were also involved - Minority fans especially of Chelsea came looking for trouble, I dont brush it off - i have always stated we have a small element of fans that live in the hooligan days of the 80's - they deserve all the punishment in the world. The point was the same amount of trouble (which isnt alot) has been at Upton Park for last couple of decades but with zero media attention - its only because were at a new stadium incidences are being highlighted.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

the who?

They were from London. I think you've confused them with U2.

 

[argyle]

If he imposes 35% import tariffs he just may.

Will the house and senate even think of doing that though?

 

[dronefromsector7G]

the who?

I thought The Who were English.

 

[Tanzeylee]

They were from London. I think you've confused them with U2.

The less said about bono the better