Donald Trump

I suppose it is all a matter of one’s point of view. You’re in Florida, yes, Seb? Those are sad tales and I have heard them too. I also concur that Trump will stop at nothing and his only true goals are to insulate himself from responsibility for his crimes and to enrich himself to a point where he can insure that insulation (the two ends work hand in hand). But I also think more and more folks are beginning to see through that as the noose slowly (frustratingly slowly many would say) tightens.

Right now extremists are emboldened by having to take little responsibility for their extremism when it’s talk — there are few consequences. And while you may see opposition as tired I also think there is an element of confidence since Jan 6 that the system has not broken down entirely because consequences were real for many of who participated.
Think you have me mixed up with @Mad Eyed Screamer. ;-)

I live in Maine, the big purple wilderness.

And I genuinely hope your optimism turns out be more accurate than my pessimism in this case. For everyone’s sake, including my son’s.
 
I doubt it's as bad or overt as that but, in the UK, online abuse is dissuading many people from standing as local government candidates (or standing again).
I have heard that, as well, from family and friends (mostly in Bury, Prestwich, and Stockport, but also just outside London).

The same is happening in Spain, though, not to the same degree.
 
I hope your confidence isn't misplaced, from over here in sunny England, it seemed you were a whisker away from Handmaids Tale just a few short years ago.

Hopefully America will see sense when the time comes and there will be measures in place to prevent any form of resistance to the electoral result
I thought just the same when watching Handsaids tale around the time of the last election. Is this a forecast or just a good series. There were so many things which seemed to ring true with what was going on in America
 
Right now extremists are emboldened by having to take little responsibility for their extremism when it’s talk — there are few consequences. And while you may see opposition as tired I also think there is an element of confidence since Jan 6 that the system has not broken down entirely because consequences were real for many of who participated.

I read somewhere that the tactics of the far right had consciously moved away from action at a federal level because, as you say, these have had real life consequences and the focus now is very much at the local level where their freedom to operate may be less constrained. Hence Proud Boy types providing 'escorts' to right wing people at local meetings. Don't know how extensive a pattern this is but it does strike me that a combination of local nutter politicos, wannabe paramilitaries and localised social influencers would be quite an intimidating trifecta for ordinary citizens, who just want to provide service to their local communities, to have to stand up to.

I hope you're optimism is proven to be correct, either way it does seem like it's critical that decent people don't become exhausted and opt for the quiet life.
 
I read somewhere that the tactics of the far right had consciously moved away from action at a federal level because, as you say, these have had real life consequences and the focus now is very much at the local level where their freedom to operate may be less constrained. Hence Proud Boy types providing 'escorts' to right wing people at local meetings. Don't know how extensive a pattern this is but it does strike me that a combination of local nutter politicos, wannabe paramilitaries and localised social influencers would be quite an intimidating trifecta for ordinary citizens, who just want to provide service to their local communities, to have to stand up to.

I hope you're optimism is proven to be correct, either way it does seem like it's critical that decent people don't become exhausted and opt for the quiet life.
Echoes of 1930's Germany. If we fail to learn from the mistakes of the past, we stand to repeat them.
 
There's some very evil people behind him and these are people who want us dead if we do not subscribe to their view of the world.
He's got enough would-be Quislings and concentration camp guards all over Europe too.
You only have to look at the Conservative Party.
Thank you Mr.Pink Hyperbole Final.
 
We need:
Trump to lose the election.
Then a very long jail sentence for trying to overturn the election results last
time.
His death in gaol.
That would make Margery Taylor Green and her ilk think again as they are essentially cowards.
It’s not much to ask, surely.
This 100% needs to happen.
 

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