Donald Trump

[Vic]

I have heard that, as well, from family and friends (mostly in Bury, Prestwich, and Stockport, but also just outside London).

The same is happening in Spain, though, not to the same degree.

Plus Reach newspapers can't afford people to monitor the comments on stories in local rags. They just don't allow comments on some stories for fear someone will say something libellous.

 

[Blue Maverick]

You do of course realise that if he was to pass away in jail, his "disciples" will expect a press conference from him three days later

Do we get Easter eggs as well

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Hard to say.

I would lean no, at least not fully. But the appeals courts (even liberal-leaning ones) have been mixed in their handling of his various appeals.

So far courts have been bending over backwards to ensure there would be no grounds to appeal.

If you follow that approach and make every effort to ensure fairness then they will offer him some workable compromise so he can appeal.

But as I understand it there is no precedent and anyone else would just have to lump it.

So could go either way.

You do of course realise that if he was to pass away in jail, his "disciples" will expect a press conference from him three days later

Underrated post.

 

[KS55]

You do of course realise that if he was to pass away in jail, his "disciples" will expect a press conference from him three days later

He would be posting on Truth Social: “It’s so effing hot down here. God who is a democrat and a commie has fixed this and I’m suing. Hey, Alina, issue the writ.”
Alina-“Fuck off. You owe me a million bucks. You said you were rich, liar.”

 

[SebastianBlue]

He would be posting on Truth Social: “It’s so effing hot down here. God who is a democrat and a commie has fixed this and I’m suing. Hey, Alina, issue the writ.”
Alina-“Fuck off. You owe me a million bucks. You said you were rich, liar.”

Bill Clinton: “Shut up, Alina, and get back under the desk.”

 

[TinFoilHat]

Maybe the bloodbath line was a reference to how the shitter looks after he's used it?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I would never live in Florida…

Er....

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Per CNN:

Potential underwriters are seeking cash to back the bond, not properties, according to Trump’s lawyers.

Trump’s lawyers have asked the appeals court to delay posting the bond until his appeal of the case is over, arguing that the value of Trump’s properties far exceed the judgment. If the appeals court rules against him, Trump asked the court to delay his posting the bond until his appeal to New York’s highest court is heard.

Essentially, he has to be able to post bond for $557 million (120% of judgment) to be able to appeal the NY state business fraud verdict and punishment and his lawyers are trying to get the appeals court to stay the requirement to post bond altogether in order to appeal the verdict because:

A) The trial showed Trump has massively overvalued his properties so no insurer or bond company is willing to accept them as collateral for bond guarantee. They want a certification of sufficient cash-on-hand to post the full required bond.

B) He has lied numerous times, several under oath, about having more than $400 million in cash reserves, as he cannot certify sufficient cash-on-hand (because he is actually broke).

C) His lawyers are hoping his inability to secure the full bond for appeal will sway the appeals court to suspend the requirement of posting bond or even payment of the $464+ million judgement (growing by more than $100k every day) until after the appeal has run its course.

Small clarification… he can still appeal without posting bond, but if he doesn’t post bond they can begin enforcing the judgment.

The function of the bond isn’t to allow for an appeal but to delay the enforcement of the judgment.

This means that, as it stands, New York can start seizing his property from one week today unless there is some last minute intervention by the appeals court.

I don’t think there will be, they already knocked back his offer of 100m to stay enforcement, and in his latest filing Trump’s attorney has instead employed the Art of the Deal and is offering… $0. That being the case, it seems logical (though it is speculation) that the 100m he originally offered is probably from the same source as the money they put in for the Carroll appeal. It got turned down for this judgement so they used it there instead and now their pool of one willing idiot has dried up.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Small clarification… he can still appeal without posting bond, but if he doesn’t post bond they can begin enforcing the judgment.

The function of the bond isn’t to allow for an appeal but to delay the enforcement of the judgment.

This means that, as it stands, New York can start seizing his property from one week today unless there is some last minute intervention by the appeals court.

I don’t think there will be, they already knocked back his offer of 100m to stay enforcement, and in his latest filing Trump’s attorney has instead employed the Art of the Deal and is offering… $0. That being the case, it seems logical (though it is speculation) that the 100m he originally offered is probably from the same source as the money they put in for the Carroll appeal. It got turned down for this judgement so they used it there instead and now their pool of one willing idiot has dried up.

Interesting, I was under the impression that New York was similar to a few other states that require appeal or supersedeas bond in order to proceed with appeal in high value civil litigation (not just to stay enforcement of judgment), in order to avoid the exact situation Trump’s lawyers are attempt to create.

I am looking for the statute covering appeal in these situations now to read up.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

If it helps, I am not predicting a “revolution”. But I do think there will be armed clashes involving various militant, hyper-loyalist (and/or opportunistic) groups partly incited by Trump and his cronies if he doesn’t win a second term.

IMO, there may be a Wako or perhaps even an Oklahoma City-bombing type of incident if Biden wins re-election that would not have occurred should Trump have won. But I don't expect that many of these will occur in Biden's hypothetical 2nd term - one or two at most.

The FBI has learned from past homegrown terrorist attacks and are adept at infiltrating radical organizations prone to terrorism and at heading off violence before it occurs.