Donald Trump

Trump whinged, whined and lied about not being allowed to go to Barron's graduation on 17th May but when the judge confirmed he'll recess court to allow him to do so Trump immediately made arrangements to attend and speak at a fundraising dinner in St Paul, Minnesota on the same day. This takes place 1,700 miles from Barron's graduation in Palm Beach, Florida. Theoretically he could just about attend both but even if he did he wouldn't be able to spend much time with Barron after his graduation ceremony. What a manipulative deceitful twat he is.

This is a massive own goal in the making. You can see it coming a mile of. Is there anyone in the Trump orbit looking out for these issues and able to stop it? We will find out soon enough.
 
I would tend to agree that this is the weakest case and the sentencing is likely to reflect that, but your post muddies the waters of what he is actually being accused of here which is far more mendacious than is being made out.

Nobody cares that he fucked a porn star and paid her off (except maybe his wife). That isn’t illegal. Ethically questionable yes, illegal no.

What he’s being charged with is knowingly fudging his business accounts with the ultimate aim of violating campaign financing laws - and not just violating them in a technical sense, but in a big way. And there’s some really important context needed here. The maximum any person can donate to a political candidate for federal office is a few thousand dollars. Businesses are expressly prohibited from making donations directly to political campaigns. They can donate via a PAC which is a fund that is set up to collate money from larger donors but importantly is also regulated and forbidden from coordinating with individual campaigns. This is to prevent businesses from colluding with political candidates for president and bribing them with undue influence.

What Trump has effectively done is take $130k out of Cohen’s coffers and $150k from AMI (the company that paid for the McDougal story) and donated it to his own campaign without declaring it - that’s over 100 times the legal limit on donations, and includes a payment taken from a business. That is very illegal, it impacts things like tax calculations, but also contravenes a fundamental principle of the US political campaigning system. He can’t just create an unlimited piggy bank for his political campaign by letting anybody pay for hundreds of thousands of dollars of costs, and he can’t take those donations from AMI either, that isn’t at all how it works.

We can argue the toss about how much of an impact that actually had on the outcome of the election. I agree, probably very little, and I also agree it’s not a “satisfying” charge to find him guilty of. It’s basically in the same domain as Al Capone getting done on tax code violations. But Cohen went to prison for these things and if we donated £280k to Biden’s campaign tomorrow and fudged our accounts to hide it, then we would go to prison too, because it is fundamentally about undermining the democratic election system.
Agree. And the likely outcome from this if found guilty would be anything from no Prison but a mix of fines and community services to a short prison stretch (4 years max but would not serve more than 2). And of course a criminal record.

We all want jail time and the chance of him doing a couple of years is the prize on offer. It's like a roll of the dice.
 
Agree. And the likely outcome from this if found guilty would be anything from no Prison but a mix of fines and community services to a short prison stretch (4 years max but would not serve more than 2). And of course a criminal record.

We all want jail time and the chance of him doing a couple of years is the prize on offer. It's like a roll of the dice.

It doesn’t really matter if he goes to jail or not, the important thing is that he’s officially found guilty of election fraud by a jury of his peers. Thats what will actually make independents vote Biden and moderate republicans stay at home.

The FBI will send him to prison for the rest of his life when the documents trial eventually gets past Cannon’s delaying tactics.
 
It doesn’t really matter if he goes to jail or not, the important thing is that he’s officially found guilty of election fraud by a jury of his peers. Thats what will actually make independents vote Biden and moderate republicans stay at home.

The FBI will should send him to prison for the rest of his life when the documents trial eventually gets past Cannon’s delaying tactics.
I've made a slight edit...

Had it been you or I with a truck load of classified documents (some high classified humint) stored in cupboard at home we would already be locked up pending trial, whether we were cleared to see those documents or not.
 
It doesn’t really matter if he goes to jail or not, the important thing is that he’s officially found guilty of election fraud by a jury of his peers. Thats what will actually make independents vote Biden and moderate republicans stay at home.

The FBI will send him to prison for the rest of his life when the documents trial eventually gets past Cannon’s delaying tactics.
True. What people seem to forget is that he might have delayed 3 trials so far, but he has 4. And if the Stormy case is the one that gets him a criminal record then that's funny. It's 50:50 he gets jail time and i like those odds.
I've made a slight edit...

Had it been you or I with a truck load of classified documents (some high classified humint) stored in cupboard at home we would already be locked up pending trial, whether we were cleared to see those documents or not.
Yep. Anyone else is arrested and held pending trial.

But. To get out of this he has to win the election. Its unique circumstances but so much evidence points to him losing in dramatic fashion. For example the dems are starting to roll out state level campaign operations and staffing up offices. They are going to invest time and money and volunteers at the grass roots level to get out the vote. Trump on the other hand has dismantled the GOP machine at the top and has focused on diverting all funds under his control. No signs of any campaigning beyond his shitty rallies. We don't really know what's going on and what will happen but we can guess. And it all points to a Trump loss.

If he losses he then has 3 trials all ready to go.
 
That's rather low class from the Lincoln Project
He’s low class. In fact he’s zero class. He has no issue insulting people with physical issues, as he did with that journalist. He’s a total utter piece of shit. So, him shitting himself, his farting, will cause the flaky narcissistic prick grief. That to anybody who knows what a **** he is, makes us happy.

The next one shouid be about him fantasising about his daughter whilst fucking Stormy with his mushroom Boaby.
 
This is a massive own goal in the making. You can see it coming a mile of. Is there anyone in the Trump orbit looking out for these issues and able to stop it? We will find out soon enough.
If I were the judge I’d say you are getting time to go to your sons graduation, you know, the one you have to go to, as you haven’t been to any of your other family members. You are not getting time to raise money.

But he won’t, because they are all shitebags
 
This is a massive own goal in the making. You can see it coming a mile of. Is there anyone in the Trump orbit looking out for these issues and able to stop it? We will find out soon enough.
It should lead to sanction for lying to the court, as it would if any ordinary citizen asked to be allowed to not attend a certain date for an important family function, is granted that privilege, then uses the free day to pursue personal gains, that include breaking the gag order the court has placed on them.

But it probably won’t.
 

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