Donald Trump

Two aging clowns in decline, but only one passed any kind of muster.

The format actually benefited Trump who, without a crowd to tell his stories, was forced to be a little more focused. With a crowd, he would have been more insufferable with his rants, so the Dems tactics backfired here.

Both of these guys lied about quite a few things; Trump with his over exaggerations on achievements, but Biden also with not accepting positions Trump put him in.

If Trump hadn't have over egged the pudding, this debate would have been a resounding victory, cos all he had to do was rein it in. Biden rambled, became cogent, mumbled, became wild eyed, grinned like a maniac and then drifted off mid sentence. Mocked Trump for being convicted and laid the door open for Trump's retort on his son being in the same boat.

What a dumb debate, but it was historic in watching a sitting Pres crumble in stature before the world.
 
Does Biden even have to commit to the debates?

Doesn't even make sense that he goes in when his stammer is now more vulnerable due to his age. It's clearly not dementia just that he's less resilient. If it was he wouldn't have been able to respond to Trump so clearly on the abortion point.



Trump can ramble about nonsense on a random tangent and Biden's stammer is what jumps out.

The Biden campaign were the ones that called for the debate. They didn't have to.
 
Exactly! It's just a cold. He could have just said no debates. And take care of the cold.


The stammer isn't even that bad. Trump is clearly the one in 'REAL' mental decline. Biden's team really need to get him a speech therapist. Just a little caork and he'll sound as sharp as he really is.
They are both in real mental and physical decline, as the vast majority of us will be at that age. If biden does have some sort of Alzheimer's or whatever it doesn't mean he's stupid, just old/unwell and there is no shame in that.
What is a shame is that this potentially gives trump a fighting chance of being president.
 
Slam dunk for the fat **** now. If it pushes us closer to Europe and makes Europe commit to its own defence without relying on the US then it might be a positive thing. Shame for the US but they get what they vote for.
 
Slam dunk for the fat **** now. If it pushes us closer to Europe and makes Europe commit to its own defence without relying on the US then it might be a positive thing. Shame for the US but they get what they vote for.
I think that trajectory would accelerate our return to the EU. Our best card to obviate vetos being deployed to block our reentry is our relative military strength.
 
I think that trajectory would accelerate our return to the EU. Our best card to obviate vetos being deployed to block our reentry is our relative military strength.
The other side of that coin is how the liberals in the US would deal with a more isolationist political culture. There could be trouble.

I’m confident if the right wing element of Europe are again chased back to the lanes then Europe could progress much more effectively without US interference.
 
They are both in real mental and physical decline, as the vast majority of us will be at that age. If biden does have some sort of Alzheimer's or whatever it doesn't mean he's stupid, just old/unwell and there is no shame in that.
What is a shame is that this potentially gives trump a fighting chance of being president.
Oi! I’m almost the same age as Trump. Not in mental decline at all, thank you. Physically is a different matter! Sharpest wordsmith on here is @Eccles Blue and she ain’t no youngster. Sorry, Eccles, but these young whippersnappers need to be pulled up sometimes.
 
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