Donald Trump

[JASR]

Of the 5 rankings (by presidential scholars) since Trump orchestrated Jan 6th - he’s in the bottom 4 (out of 44/45) in every one.
He ranks in the bottom 5 of presidents for even Republican voting scholars (ie the individual breakdown of the overall ranking).
Even James Buchanan ranks higher in some of the rankings.

Biden is upper middle in the 2 rankings since he became president.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

But yeah, Biden is ‘the worst’ and Trump ‘the greatest’…

 

[Mancity1980]

Of the 5 rankings (by presidential scholars) since Trump orchestrated Jan 6th - he’s in the bottom 4 (out of 44/45) in every one.
He ranks in the bottom 5 of presidents for even Republican voting scholars (ie the individual breakdown of the overall ranking).
Even James Buchanan ranks higher in some of the rankings.

Biden is upper middle in the 2 rankings since he became president.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

But yeah, Biden is ‘the worst’ and Trump ‘the greatest’…

What Americans need to recognise is their government is a massive machine and the president is its figurehead and it is better to have an old figurehead that allows the machine to work than a disruptive loudmouth who breaks it up. I don’t know about any other posters out there but I find the US election much more interesting and engaging than the UK one.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

What Americans need to recognise is their government is a massive machine and the president is its figurehead and it is better to have an old figurehead that allows the machine to work than a disruptive loudmouth who breaks it up. I don’t know about any other posters out there but I found the US election much more interesting and engaging than the UK one.

Not just Americans. All nations need to remember this.

 

[Mancity1980]

Not just Americans. All nations need to remember this.

I think a lot do, but a lot of nations have monarchs or a prime minister and a president, so the figurehead part is more obvious.

 

[Pappa P]

Trump the best of a bad bunch....sorry state of affairs

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Trump has spoken about Biden being the “worst US president in history”, oh the irony.

Fact Check: False.

Trump has ACTUALLY been voted stone cold last in terms of 'Presidential Greatness' (whatever the fuck that means) by presidential historians. Biden was 14th.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

 

[JASR]

Fact Check: False.

Trump has ACTUALLY been voted stone cold last in terms of 'Presidential Greatness' (whatever the fuck that means) by presidential historians. Biden was 14th.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

See my post about 6 back

 

[TinFoilHat]

Thank fuck that debate was not end of September.

Lots of Trump fuckkery between now and November to come.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Not just Americans. All nations need to remember this.

That's one of the small bits of hope I have for the UK. That regardless of how flip-floppy and uninspiring Starmer might be, there are some genuinely decent and capable MPs in the Labour Party. The problem with the Tories isn't primarily Sunak, it's the 300 or so dolts that sit on the benches with him. They are bereft of competence.

With Biden what matters more is that they put good people in the House and in the Senate so that government can be functional and effective - whether that's Dems or more moderate GOP candidates (many of which have been winning primaries). The current House GOP have demonstrated numerous times they are incapable of governing effectively because they can't even agree on a consistent platform and are more concerned with PR than facilitating change.

There is the fall-back that people in the US recognise this, and even if Trump wins, he is left with a Dem House and Senate. The down the ballot picture is often different to the headline.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Coming to a Mount Rushmore near you - and yes, he has put forward the idea!!View attachment 123678

Some select quotes from the great Presidents of Mt. Rushmore:

Washington: "A primary object should be the education of our youth in the science of government. In a republic, what species of knowledge can be equally important?"

Jefferson: "Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions any more than our opinions in physics or geometry."

Roosevelt: "No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we require him to obey it."

Lincoln: "Every man is said to have his peculiar ambition. Whether it be true or not, I can say for one that I have no other so great as that of being truly esteemed of my fellow men."

Trump: "All they know is electric. They want electric planes. What happens if the sun isn't shining while you're up in the air? They want electric boats. The problem is the boats don't float because the battery is so heavy it sinks the boat."