Donald Trump

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The US breaking apart.
It will be a big effort to hold it together but there are many committed to the fight.

Actually started a thread on this very topic eight years ago:

Will the United States survive the 21st century?

A question that might have been laughed at a generation ago, but the world has changed so much in that time and will continue to, for better or worse. With all the global change we've seen in recent years, I would suggest it's not a fanciful notion. There's no doubt that the United States are...

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And the situation has unquestionably got far worse since. Not saying it will definitely happen, but I think it’s likely and becoming increasingly so.

 

[Delboy352]

Coming to a Mount Rushmore near you - and yes, he has put forward the idea!!

 

[JASR]

Of the 5 rankings (by presidential scholars) since Trump orchestrated Jan 6th - he’s in the bottom 4 (out of 44/45) in every one.
He ranks in the bottom 5 of presidents for even Republican voting scholars (ie the individual breakdown of the overall ranking).
Even James Buchanan ranks higher in some of the rankings.

Biden is upper middle in the 2 rankings since he became president.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

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But yeah, Biden is ‘the worst’ and Trump ‘the greatest’…

 

[Mancity1980]

Of the 5 rankings (by presidential scholars) since Trump orchestrated Jan 6th - he’s in the bottom 4 (out of 44/45) in every one.
He ranks in the bottom 5 of presidents for even Republican voting scholars (ie the individual breakdown of the overall ranking).
Even James Buchanan ranks higher in some of the rankings.

Biden is upper middle in the 2 rankings since he became president.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

But yeah, Biden is ‘the worst’ and Trump ‘the greatest’…

What Americans need to recognise is their government is a massive machine and the president is its figurehead and it is better to have an old figurehead that allows the machine to work than a disruptive loudmouth who breaks it up. I don’t know about any other posters out there but I find the US election much more interesting and engaging than the UK one.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

What Americans need to recognise is their government is a massive machine and the president is its figurehead and it is better to have an old figurehead that allows the machine to work than a disruptive loudmouth who breaks it up. I don’t know about any other posters out there but I found the US election much more interesting and engaging than the UK one.

Not just Americans. All nations need to remember this.

 

[Mancity1980]

Not just Americans. All nations need to remember this.

I think a lot do, but a lot of nations have monarchs or a prime minister and a president, so the figurehead part is more obvious.

 

[Pappa P]

Trump the best of a bad bunch....sorry state of affairs

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Trump has spoken about Biden being the “worst US president in history”, oh the irony.

Fact Check: False.

Trump has ACTUALLY been voted stone cold last in terms of 'Presidential Greatness' (whatever the fuck that means) by presidential historians. Biden was 14th.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

 

[JASR]

Fact Check: False.

Trump has ACTUALLY been voted stone cold last in terms of 'Presidential Greatness' (whatever the fuck that means) by presidential historians. Biden was 14th.

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

See my post about 6 back

 

[TinFoilHat]

Thank fuck that debate was not end of September.

Lots of Trump fuckkery between now and November to come.