Well, you need to take the voting age population, and then subtract out those that won't vote at all, and you'll get to a total far less than 50% of Americans.
But what do YOU believe his supporters' genuine grievances are? And I'm not talking about the grievances of conservatives -- I'm talking about those who are so upset they'd not only happily hand the reins over to a fat old hyper-narcissistic morally-degenerate grifting con man dumbfuck former Democrat who attempted to overthrow the results of a free and fair election, but give him money, put signs in their yards, wear red hats, put flags on their trucks, lose friends and family members or even their jobs in support of him?
But you can’t trust the stance of a “lefty” organisation like the NAACP!Byrd changed his mind because he was wrong.
Has Vance actually changed his mind that Trump is America's Hitler or just changed his mind to think that's now a good thing.
Unless you think Trump or Vance are eventually likely to get this sort of "eulogy":
When Byrd died at age 92 on June 28, 2010, the NAACP released a statement saying that over the course of his life he “became a champion for civil rights and liberties” and “came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda.”
Ha ha ha!Secret service director resigned.
After the bullying MTG was doing I don't blame her.
In DazWorld where MTG is a "liberal", who knows what words mean?But you can’t trust the stance of a “lefty” organisation like the NAACP!
No argument she had to fall on her sword. My argument was with all the grandstanding and personal attacks on here to placate the mango Mussolini over asking any tough questions.Ha ha ha!
She failed spectacularly. Totally incompetent in her role.
She had to go. She’s gone. End of.
Many years ago I got to know someone who had worked on the Secret Service Presidential protection team.To be fair, both the Democratic and Republican ranking members of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee sent a letter yesterday demanding that she resign.
And, as much as I don’t like political witch hunts, absolutely everything about the assassination attempt was a shitshow, from allowing the shooter up on the roof to the agents allowing Trump to stop them from carrying him off the stage (and letting him stick his head out and raise his fist to the crowd), and everything in between, so a change in leadership was probably needed just to claw back some public confidence that it would never happen again (not that an assassination attempt would never happen again, that any attempt would ever be handled like this again).
She should have resigned immediately after the event. She’s gone. Next!No argument she had to fall on her sword. My argument was with all the grandstanding and personal attacks on here to placate the mango Mussolini over asking any tough questions.
Well, if you don't care very much, why are you asking?:) Me? I don't know and I don't care very much. But you do accept they must have some?
But the question of whether there are genuine grievances (there are, and I have discussed them in this and other threads at length) is completely separate from whether supporting Trump and MAGA now, today, makes one a rational, reasonable person.
Edit: Would you say Germans still supporting Hitler in 1940, who perhaps started off supporting him in the early 1930s because of genuine grievances they had, were still reasonable, rational people?
I don’t enough about the inner workings of the Secret Service today, or the personnelon the ground at the rally, to comment on the over dynamics of the protection details or the quality of the security personnel depending on the status of the protected person or the relative fondness that the head of the Secret Service has for the protected person. Nor will I speculate on the current conspiracies making the rounds related to the intent of the security detail on the day, though, I will say I personally have a hard time believing the Secret Service or Law Enforcement “let it happen” intentionally, for many reasons.Many years ago I got to know someone who had worked on the Secret Service Presidential protection team.
He told me (and it may still be the case) that there are effectively two groups within the detail. One obviously provides (or doesn't provide in Trump's case) the actual close protection. The other group is scouting and assessing future locations, and that's generally the one that the more experienced agents are part of. That work increased after Kennedy was shot.
I suspect the president in office would also get better, more experienced protection than the previous ones, even though Trump was the candidate. That might be particularly so if the head of the service wasn't that enamoured with one of the persons they were supposed to protect. It's quite possible that the team on the ground in Butler were not the cream of the crop therefore.