Dr Philip Batty

[Project]

Unless he was the second coming of Jesus the doctor makes next to no difference. It's all about training methods/intensity. Obviously Pelle has them working harder in training which results in our players breaking down.

It's a lot more nuanced than just training methods and intensity to be fair.

How so ?

Preparation, post training/match recovery, sleep, nutrition, conditioning, boot selection + insoles, grass length, it goes on. And then the balance of all of this is often different for each individual player.

Not saying we don't do the upmost we can in each of these areas to minimise injury by the way, just that it's a complicated business.

 

[bluebird113]

He works in Macc as a GP now

he does and according to someone I know who works for him he is obnoxious

 

[BlueAnorak]

He works in Macc as a GP now

Thought he was with England Rugby, or is that a different chap?

He is with England Rugby and sets the guidelines for sports medicine at a club level too. The result? A fall in soft tissue muscle injuries at the top levels of English Rugby.

Compare and contrast with the current regime at City. Martinez at Everton is right, You should have very few soft tissue injuries at a club in a season. Kompany and Aguero combined have had 6 so far this season.<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:32 pm --<br /><br />Such injuries normally occur as a result of bad warm down / warm up procedures and practices.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

He works in Macc as a GP now

he does and according to someone I know who works for him he is obnoxious

I'm surprised Mancini got rid of him then.

 

[BlueAnorak]

He works in Macc as a GP now

he does and according to someone I know who works for him he is obnoxious

That is a different Dr Philip Batty. This is the one who was at City:
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[Esteban de la Sexface]

Mother Theresa, Jesus and Buddha could be on our medical staff and it wouldn't prevent injuries. When guys are putting their bodies on the line 50-60 times a season then there will be injuries. Fuck all you can do about it.

Liverpool have less injuries because they have played 75% the amount of games we have played. 7 Days recovery between competitive matches makes a huge difference.

 

[Marvin]

It's a lot more nuanced than just training methods and intensity to be fair.

How so ?

Preparation, post training/match recovery, sleep, nutrition, conditioning, boot selection + insoles, grass length, it goes on. And then the balance of all of this is often different for each individual player.

Not saying we don't do the upmost we can in each of these areas to minimise injury by the way, just that it's a complicated business.

Whose responsibility is that? The Club Doctor?

These are important matters, but it maybe these are already been looked after by someone else?

 

[kenzie115]

Just work a rota system. One day on, one day off. How much more can there be to it? If that doesn't work just send out a couple of spies over to the Liverpool training ground because whatever they're doing is working a fucking treat for their boys.

Don't think it'd go down too well if the club Doctor suggested to Pellegrini that we don't bother with European competitions and try and exit the domestic cups early too.

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Mother Theresa, Jesus and Buddha could be on our medical staff and it wouldn't prevent injuries. When guys are putting their bodies on the line 50-60 times a season then there will be injuries. Fuck all you can do about it.

Liverpool have less injuries because they have played 75% the amount of games we have played. 7 Days recovery between competitive matches makes a huge difference.

When injuries happen because of tackles, I can accept it as part of the game. When players pull up with hamstring or calf problems and when it happens in numbers, then questions need to be asked. Also, many of our injuries have occurred in training and this would indicate over-intensive methods being used. Perhaps this is something that radically needs changing, and when a CB is tackled and injured by another CB in training, something which rarely happens in a real game, then questions already asked in this thread need revisiting.

 

[the_special_one]

Rodgers and Mourinho both operate in similar way. They both focus their time on group training with a split that is never more than 50% of time spent with group and 50 % with individuals. This varies through a season based on fixture cramming etc. In short all players are given a personal plan with various specialist support staff at the club, and if they don't follow it they don't play simple as that. That's what works so well at Liverpool the mix of Rodgers methodology with the group and the level of individual support.Last time I remember being involved with training we had players doing hours of weights. Too much running and conditioning coaches with different views on everything. The injury rates here are mirrored up and down the EPL and even all levels of English football. Some clubs have better records but a lot have worse. Quite a few players don't play fully fit. Compare this to the continent and treatment rooms in most clubs will be empty except for long term injuries and the odd massage going on. We need more than just a club doctor but I would in support of having him back in.