Dzeko (Merged)

Re: Dzeko

Few very good points on this tread...

I myself noticed that Dzeko's motivation is definitely down. As someone else also said - to me he seems to be fired up in the first half expecting involvement, passess...but then our slow starts and lack of productivity in midfield in general take the wind right out of him.

In addition to that though, I have another theory that lack of consistency from his manager is affecting his motivation.

Best example (and I think the turning point to Dzeko's current season) - was when he scored 2 GOALS against Aris (speaking of confidence booster?) just to be BENCHED THE ENTIRE NEXT GAME (he entered in like 88th minute).
I dont know about you but that would definitely fuck with MY head about what is expected from me and what do I need to do for some consistency...
I really blame Mancini for exclusively for lack of motivation Dzeko has displayed lately - I think Roberto has managed this kid very poorly so far.

On another note I also agree about previous posters that in the first half yesterday he was one of our better players on the pitch...was at least somewhat driven. In second half he completely disappeared though - but at that time it was already 3:0, so...<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:45 am --<br /><br />In my opinion also the combination of Tevez, Dzeko, and Balotelli in the same team will never work. All three are stars (regardless of what some think), all want to START and play major minutes - and Mancini is never gonna have that. So one will have to leave next year IMO. City needs a mid-tier backup at forward next year. Someone who can do the job for one or two games, but not demand major minutes and just be a team-first player...

People seem to forget Dzeko had a nice debut, then scored in the next game (cup game) - and if I recall correctly - then Balotelli came back from injury so this awkward rotation started...and it all went downhill. Not blaming Balotelli at all - just making point that three of them on the same team will not work. So something will give next year.
 
for all dzeko haters....

how about supplying the lad with crosses???...there was an 18 year old rookie playing last night begging to be roasted and crosses put in-how many times did we do that???- we can,t knock edin until we play to his strengths....
 
Re: for all dzeko haters....

All i can say, Dzeko & Boyata should be the last Players for critics.

All Players made big mistakes, even Kompany.

Kolarov like allways, when some good Team is making pernament pressure at him, just making big mistakes all the time.

Yaya didnt made anything, AJ left the hole rightside in 1rst Half open and didnt defend at all.
 
Re: for all dzeko haters....

Think once he scores his first (prem) goal,this kid could be the real deal,he tried bloody hard last night,a lot more than some others anyway,I wish him well,unlike that other tool who was alongside him for majority of last night's game
 
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riley347 said:
how about supplying the lad with crosses???...there was an 18 year old rookie playing last night begging to be roasted and crosses put in-how many times did we do that???- we can,t knock edin until we play to his strengths....
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And what about controlling a football? What about passing a football? What about running like a human and not a new born giraffe. I'm all for giving players a chance but this lad looks fucking hopeless. As one of his former managers said 'the lamp post'

If we need to supply him crosses then why didn't we buy another winger? One man to blame and its that **** Mancini
 
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nevilletogoater-in said:
riley347 said:
how about supplying the lad with crosses???...there was an 18 year old rookie playing last night begging to be roasted and crosses put in-how many times did we do that???- we can,t knock edin until we play to his strengths....
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And what about controlling a football? What about passing a football? What about running like a human and not a new born giraffe. I'm all for giving players a chance but this lad looks fucking hopeless. As one of his former managers said 'the lamp post'

If we need to supply him crosses then why didn't we buy another winger? One man to blame and its that **** Mancini
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Spot on - Sick to death of people making excuses for him - For a big lad he can't shield the ball and his 1st touch is shocking
 
Re: for all dzeko haters....

There are a lot of things to question, but his skill and ability should not be one of them IMO.

His form = YES
His confidence = YES
His motivation lately = YES
His position on the team = YES
Consistency by his manager = HELL YES

My theory is that Mancini has managed the kid very poorly so far. Not that Dzeko himself was great or anything, but these awkward rotations and team overhauls are just getting ridiculous.

Dzeko will do fine in the future, but Mancini needs to figure out WHAT is he trying to do with his team???
 
Re: for all dzeko haters....

riley347 said:
how about supplying the lad with crosses???...there was an 18 year old rookie playing last night begging to be roasted and crosses put in-how many times did we do that???- we can,t knock edin until we play to his strengths....
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He should be knockin' Carroll into a cocked hat with performance and goal tally. 68 goals in two and a half seasons in the Bundesliga tells its own story.
 
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Mancini got his tactics all wrong last night - Should have played the same team as against Sunderland - FFS they had a defence that hadn't played together before + an 18 yr old making his debut
 
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To be fair to Dzeko he was a fucking GOAL MACHINE before he came here. I don't care what league it was but you dont score goals for fun and then suddenly have the touch of a hippo. It's a commonly used phrase on here that the guy needs time - I will judge Dzeko next season but for now we need to support and encourage him instead of the synchronised groaning that gets right on my tits!
 
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The only thing that concerns me when it comes to Dzeko is that it seems that he tries hard enough and seems to really want to do good. He cannot, for the time being, for whatever reason, be it due to being green in the PL, or Manchester City just not being the team for him (due to no crosses in the box, no pace, too much defensive focus or whatever the reason he isn't thriving here).

As a fan, the above is a perfectly responsible take on why Dzeko is not the man for City, for the time being, or perhaps ever. A take that I don't find reasonable is that somehow he has fluked his way here, or that he is responsible, in majority part, for any loss City has had since his arrival.

When he plays, it looks like he tries, and that's all I can ask. Doesn't mean he's the man for us, but doesn't mean he's not immensely talented either.
 
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Petrovs left peg said:
To be fair to Dzeko he was a fucking GOAL MACHINE before he came here. I don't care what league it was but you dont score goals for fun and then suddenly have the touch of a hippo. It's a commonly used phrase on here that the guy needs time - I will judge Dzeko next season but for now we need to support and encourage him instead of the synchronised groaning that gets right on my tits!
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Thats wrong actually. He failed in his first season, then became prolific in his second. As it stand, i'm better than Dzeko.
I slagged Liverpool off for buying Carroll. I would have him over Dzeko every single game of the season.
 
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Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
riley347 said:
how about supplying the lad with crosses???...there was an 18 year old rookie playing last night begging to be roasted and crosses put in-how many times did we do that???- we can,t knock edin until we play to his strengths....
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He should be knockin' Carroll into a cocked hat with performance and goal tally. 68 goals in two and a half seasons in the Bundesliga tells its own story.
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This isn't the Bundesliga so his goal scoring records are irrelevant. Bianchi had a great record in Italy, Jo had a great record for CSKA. Tevez didn't have a great record at the scum but does now for us.

It's not about what he's done in the past, it's about how he fits into our squad, into our first team and unfortunately he doesn't.
 
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EaglesFan said:
There are a lot of things to question, but his skill and ability should not be one of them IMO.

His form = YES
His confidence = YES
His motivation lately = YES
His position on the team = YES
Consistency by his manager = HELL YES

My theory is that Mancini has managed the kid very poorly so far. Not that Dzeko himself was great or anything, but these awkward rotations and team overhauls are just getting ridiculous.

Dzeko will do fine in the future, but Mancini needs to figure out WHAT is he trying to do with his team???
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I never liked the Italian tactical Setup especially not from Mancini. The Gameplay depends how open the other Team is, often compact Teams dont get pressured becouse the stright line in the Midfield is missing. Mancini defesive Setup is something what you can talk bout, it has the 3 line defenders but then, just mented to invidual Skills of the Offs. Every stronger Team did find a direct way do defend, to keep showing more of their automatics movement which all the line are dangerous at the game pass by. That doesnt exits at our Gameplay. And when the Players show some bad Form, it cant be stopped with Team effort.

As a Manager who brought a new Player, who didnt played a Game in England i do not sent him everytime away. Clear, Dzeko should played against Wolves (and did good), but the following game away (Villa?) he didnt should, Mancini has to try him bring him only in Home Games, exact for confidence. When he is build (like 4 5 Home Games, and passes something like an Formcheck then yes, sure let him Play.

1) Match after Aris
2) National Squad before Sunderland

This was two Moments where Mancini should bring Dzeko, and it could work.

The other thing is, Mancini didnt imagined Dzeko how he really is. Well, i do not know what it was. Maybe, when we dominated Teams and didnt find a Way to the Goal, he wanted somebody to break them. That is only something different what Dzeko is really is, Magath had the Gameplay for Dzeko its setup who opens Dzekos Skills and Space, clearly Dzeko dont have the Space at all now. About the Service we shouldnt talk at all.
 
Re: for all dzeko haters....

Mancini has signed a ricket. There is no doubt about that. Unless you are part of the self deception brigade. The same brigade who are still waiting for Kolarov to show 'his class' 'FFS!'
 
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