Eden Hazard (continued)

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SWP's back said:
dctid said:
EalingBlue2 said:
United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.
You do realise their "worth" has fuck all bearing on their ability to buy anything don't you?

You do understand however that if you have an asset you can borrow against that asset a bit like a mortgage its not a difficult concept to understand. They have the money to buy Hazard it would appear that they have agreed personal terms its pretty reasonable to assume that they will be able to pay the transfer fee.

Who knows where that money is comong from BUT they are in race which would suggest that the "they are skint" argument is utter utter bollocks - if they can afford to spunk 50 Million last year on shite as some people believe then they will spend similar to land Hazard if he is as good as people seem to think - the cant afford not too
 
SWP's back said:
dctid said:
EalingBlue2 said:
United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.
You do realise their "worth" has fuck all bearing on their ability to buy anything don't you?



Its because they choose not to buy, and we should take full advantage of that. I know we all have the blue tinted glasses on but like it or not the swamp rags are one of the biggest sporting teams in the world. And if im not mistaken they have had the biggest profits turned over last quarter.

This hazard signing should be our statement that we are the team to beat.
 
Marvin said:
BlueCityfan said:
Marvin said:
Teams can play with two creative midfielders. We played with Nasri, Silva and Tevez when the season ended. If City try and sign a midfielder, the player is going to look at the team and wonder where he is going to play. That's not arrogance, that's a fact.

If Utd signed Kagawa, they could still accomodate Hazard

I think Mancini could be looking at the same kind of line-up for next season. With Hazard replacing TEVEZ.

I still think we will sell Tevez. Only reason i can see Tevez staying is that no1 is prepared to pay enough.
If Tevez and mancini have patched their relationship up, then we'd be mad to sell Tevez. Ideal foil for Aguero and son versatile

I think they have patched their relationship aswell. But we wouldn't be mad to sell him, he is 28 and the club could be looking to sell him when he is still has some value.

I could see Hazard forming a very good understanding with Aguero aswell. With Hazard playing behind Aguero.
 
dctid said:
EalingBlue2 said:
United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.
 
United can afford loads if they choose but until they get in a viera or a Keane their midfield will be an open gateway which any strong team will be able to stroll through. Their defence will be older and slower next year . I suspect they have a lot of money as surely they would not spend their money on something that is not their main need. We will finish above them next year unless they sign a truly world class central box to box midfielder good enough to go toe to toe with yaya
 
Red_fan said:
dctid said:
EalingBlue2 said:
United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

Cant you just fuck off to your own board there are plenty of City fans here whom understand and are able to pass on relevent info

600 - 420 or whatever my point was valid

With regards to the floatation (if indeed it does go ahead (it has been postponed on numerous occassions) i for one would welcome it - selling 25% - 30% of Man Ure to investors whom would want a return on their investment be that in the form of a dividend or increase share value would result in less transfer money for you Rags and would be funny as fook to watch all that money raised from the floatation being diverted by the Glaziers to the US with not a penny being given to the rags,

There is i suspect a rather large thread on Hazard on Ragcafe that you would be better off posting on.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
United can afford loads if they choose but until they get in a viera or a Keane their midfield will be an open gateway which any strong team will be able to stroll through. Their defence will be older and slower next year . I suspect they have a lot of money as surely they would not spend their money on something that is not their main need. We will finish above them next year unless they sign a truly world class central box to box midfielder good enough to go toe to toe with yaya

Our defense still contains Rafael, Smalling, Jones and Evans (Fabio is going out on loan) who are all young and should be better next season. Odds are we'll sign a decent fullback as well. There'll be a question beside Ferdinand but he seems to have adapted his game very well, compensating for his lack of pace by improving his positioning. Question marks over how Vidic will be when he comes back but one thing I'll say is that he never relied on his pace that much anyway (although either did Carragher, and look at him now!). Vidic is only 30 though, odds are he'll at least come back a very good player, if not to his previous standards.

Agree re: CM though. Badly need some steel in there that can dictate a game.<br /><br />-- Sat May 26, 2012 10:22 am --<br /><br />
dctid said:
Red_fan said:
dctid said:
If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

Cant you just fuck off to your own board there are plenty of City fans here whom understand and are able to pass on relevent info

600 - 420 or whatever my point was valid

With regards to the floatation (if indeed it does go ahead (it has been postponed on numerous occassions) i for one would welcome it - selling 25% - 30% of Man Ure to investors whom would want a return on their investment be that in the form of a dividend or increase share value would result in less transfer money for you Rags and would be funny as fook to watch all that money raised from the floatation being diverted by the Glaziers to the US with not a penny being given to the rags,

There is i suspect a rather large thread on Hazard on Ragcafe that you would be better off posting on.

Well the Glazers have to notify their intentions with regard what they will do with the money raised from the float, and if they don't agree to pump at least most of the money into the actual club, they will not get top dollar for it at all. It would make sense to clear the debt and wipe out the interest as well.
 
Red_fan said:
EalingBlue2 said:
United can afford loads if they choose but until they get in a viera or a Keane their midfield will be an open gateway which any strong team will be able to stroll through. Their defence will be older and slower next year . I suspect they have a lot of money as surely they would not spend their money on something that is not their main need. We will finish above them next year unless they sign a truly world class central box to box midfielder good enough to go toe to toe with yaya

Our defense still contains Rafael, Smalling, Jones and Evans (Fabio is going out on loan) who are all young and should be better next season. Odds are we'll sign a decent fullback as well. There'll be a question beside Ferdinand but he seems to have adapted his game very well, compensating for his lack of pace by improving his positioning. Question marks over how Vidic will be when he comes back but one thing I'll say is that he never relied on his pace that much anyway (although either did Carragher, and look at him now!). Vidic is only 30 though, odds are he'll at least come back a very good player, if not to his previous standards.

Agree re: CM though. Badly need some steel in there that can dictate a game.

-- Sat May 26, 2012 10:22 am --

dctid said:
Red_fan said:
The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

Cant you just fuck off to your own board there are plenty of City fans here whom understand and are able to pass on relevent info

600 - 420 or whatever my point was valid

With regards to the floatation (if indeed it does go ahead (it has been postponed on numerous occassions) i for one would welcome it - selling 25% - 30% of Man Ure to investors whom would want a return on their investment be that in the form of a dividend or increase share value would result in less transfer money for you Rags and would be funny as fook to watch all that money raised from the floatation being diverted by the Glaziers to the US with not a penny being given to the rags,

There is i suspect a rather large thread on Hazard on Ragcafe that you would be better off posting on.

Well the Glazers have to notify their intentions with regard what they will do with the money raised from the float, and if they don't agree to pump at least most of the money into the actual club, they will not get top dollar for it at all. It would make sense to clear the debt and wipe out the interest as well.

Of course they would because they the Glaziers are honourable and trust worthy business men - mug of course they will divert money to the US under one guise or anither they have been taking money out of you lot since they bought you that why you need a floatation to raise more - dont you get it yet!!!!!!!!
 
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