Eden Hazard (continued)

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I don't think there's anything wrong with a player wanting assurances about how he will be used by his new club. IF he wants to play central, then it makes perfect sense for him to go to a club that intend to use him in that role.

I also doubt that he's demanding the 10 shirt. English papers twist foreign interview, to make headlines shocker! I'm still confident Hazard will be a blue.

 

[SWP's back]

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

You do realise their "worth" has fuck all bearing on their ability to buy anything don't you?

Its because they choose not to buy, and we should take full advantage of that. I know we all have the blue tinted glasses on but like it or not the swamp rags are one of the biggest sporting teams in the world. And if im not mistaken they have had the biggest profits turned over last quarter.

This hazard signing should be our statement that we are the team to beat.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/17/manchester-united-debt-glazers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012 ... bt-glazers</a>

Manchester United's net debt up by £26m as income falls nearly 6%

• Glazers spend £71m on buyback of bonds and on interest
• United's cash reserves drop from £113m to £25.6m

And @dctid, they won't be able to further borrow against their assumed net worth, it is nothing like a mortgage with a fixed asset cost. They are already mortgaged to the fucking hilt. Sure, I think they spend this summer and be able to afford to but their is no limitless stream of affordable credit for Utd anymore. That's why they hid how the paid off the PIK loans, had to issue expensive (8%) bonds and looked to partially float an IPO on the Asian stock market (something they were unable to do thanks to a lack of interest).

read this very informative blog by anders red (football finance expert and a rag to boot so you know it is not anti-rag bias)

<a class="postlink" href="http://andersred.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/manchester-united-q3-2012-results.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://andersred.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05 ... sults.html</a>

It's a great well informed read and finishes:

If United are to strengthen, money will be needed and that means no more bond buybacks. It probably means lower profitability, in at least the short-term, with negative implications for the valuation achievable at any IPO. The alternative may well be under investment and the club going further backwards relative to its main competitors.

The Glazers know their structure hampers the club. There was heavy briefing of journalists in the run up to the aborted IPO process last year, suggesting debt would be paid down from the IPO proceeds to make United more "competitive". If the IPO can't be delivered however, the club is stuck with its debt and the owners will have to accept lower profits or further relative decline. Can they square this circle?

 

[Rammyblues]

Last season at city weren't all squad numbers were up for grabs no one seemed to worry about what number they had.

 

[SWP's back]

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

See above and it's not quite as rosy as you paint flower.

 

[Neville Kneville]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

Are you really this stupid ?

They've just spent all the Ronaldo money on the debt after keeping it in the bank for a few years to make the lemmings think they have a transfer kitty.

If they buy Hazard etc, it will be with money they can't really afford to spend but have decided they have no option but to take the gamble.

 

[Rammyblues]

Don't give a shit about the rags, don't give a shit whether the are up to their eyeballs in debt or not, only care about what WE are doing.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Don't give a shit about the rags, don't give a shit whether the are up to their eyeballs in debt or not, only care about what WE are doing.

Why what are you doing ?

 

[bennyblue]

Its reasons like the above why the rags are so hated, short sightedness and red tints, yes just fuck off back to rag cafe where im sure you will have a captive audience ready and waiting to soak up your bullshit

 

[malg]

I take it there is no news.

Yep, according to the BBC he's off to the Rags.

 

[richards30]

United can sign all the wingers and attackers they want but they will be beatable and not the best still. Simply their weakness is in central midfield where they lack pace, strength, height, quality and dominance. They want to win the league they address that they don't they won't. If they sign hazard then either they have 100m to spend, they are selling Rooney or fergie is losing his ability as manager

If If they land Hazard and that Dortmund bloke and with Vidic coming back next season they will be much much stronger

Rags are valued well in excess of 1 Billion with debts of 600 Million - why the fook this stupid persistent crap that the rags are skint and cant buy persists i dont know

We beat them with the narrowest of margins and they WILL be stronger than last season and we must also strengthen.

The debt isn't even 600m anymore. The gross debt is down to 423m, net debt around 330m. Our revenue for this season should be around 330-340m.

A float is meant to take place this Summer that the Glazers are hoping to raise around 600m from.

United are far from skint and it's hilarious that people keep peddling that BS.

bullshit ringend!!! the debt has grown you blind rag!! while the glazers stay in charge you guys are fucked!! lol long may it continue!