Eden Hazard (continued)

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Hkibou said:
I am aghast by the stupidity of some here.
It's almost as if you WANT him to be arrogant. Or at least somebody explains me clearly how saying he will decide according to the position the coach wants him to play is arrogant.

Some really sound like little children who want their toy right now and as soon as they have to wait a week to have it they start to throw a tantrum.

But you're right, he'd better sign for Man United, so he will not corrupt your humble players like Balotelli, Tevez, Nasri ...


I agree to a certain extent.

I think people say these things so it makes it easier to dislike players when/if they sign for your rivals. People want to be able to say "See, I told you..." etc.

It's probably difficult for you to understand from our point of view. I've said it before on here, City fans are emotionally involved with this club (just like all fans of their clubs), so are sensitive to "attacks". (Not that I'm saying Hazard has attacked he club.)


I personally think Hazard has done nothing wrong, but I can understand people flapping about the deal. Especially as he could just as easily move to United.
 
Honestly Hkibou, we have dealt with a lot of great players in the last couple of years. Some of the transfers have been very complicated and fraught with tension and there were many things going on behind the scenes. But none of the players, Silva, Yaya, Aguero, Milner, Dzeko, Clichy, Balotelli, Nasri, Sanchez etc. etc. have gone to the press and spouted off. Hazard has done it, so he comes across as being different, outside our experience, to put it bluntly, he comes across as an arrogant prick. And he has a face that makes me want to punch him.

The only other player who does this is Tevez, and he too comes across as an arrogant prick with a face I want to punch. And I bet it wouldn't be more than a year or two until Hazard will be angling for a transfer to Spain or Italy or whatever like Tevez.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I've seen it happen here already.
 
Goo said:
I agree to a certain extent.
Thank you. Fortunately there are some sensible people here.

I think people say these things so it makes it easier to dislike players when/if they sign for your rivals. People want to be able to say "See, I told you..." etc.

It's probably difficult for you to understand from our point of view. I've said it before on here, City fans are emotionally involved with this club (just like all fans of their clubs), so are sensitive to "attacks". (Not that I'm saying Hazard has attacked he club.)
Lille fans, and fans from many other clubs are as emotionally involved with their club, that is not a reason to act so childishly...


I personally think Hazard has done nothing wrong, but I can understand people flapping about the deal. Especially as he could just as easily move to United.
Personnally, i can't understand.


I don't think i will come here anymore. I have to say i have been quite disappointed by this forum. I thought it would be different here compared to a United forum because it's only been a couple of years since you have this financial asset.

But too many people here have already forgotten what it was like before the Cheikh, and were spoilt by the millions.
For fuck sake, you are in the prospect of signing one of the world most promising youngster, and some still aren't satisfied !


If you need me, i'll be on my Lille's forum, where we all would be incredibly happy to sign Marvin Martin, whatever he may or may not have said in the press.
It's been a year and half he's supposed to be nailed on Lille, and still nothing has happened. But we wait patiently, us.



Good bye.
 
I just think (perhaps naively) we've got the cash, got the CL, got the title, so perhaps it's time agents asked us how much we will pay, rather than us asking how much they want. If Hazard is as good as the hype then I would love to see him here, but the way he has gobbed of in the press means he is either being cute and playing them, or he has a Tevez/Robinhio mindset rather than a Kompany one.
 
Hkibou said:
Goo said:
I agree to a certain extent.
Thank you. Fortunately there are some sensible people here.

I think people say these things so it makes it easier to dislike players when/if they sign for your rivals. People want to be able to say "See, I told you..." etc.

It's probably difficult for you to understand from our point of view. I've said it before on here, City fans are emotionally involved with this club (just like all fans of their clubs), so are sensitive to "attacks". (Not that I'm saying Hazard has attacked he club.)
Lille fans, and fans from many other clubs are as emotionally involved with their club, that is not a reason to act so childishly...


I personally think Hazard has done nothing wrong, but I can understand people flapping about the deal. Especially as he could just as easily move to United.
Personnally, i can't understand.


I don't think i will come here anymore. I have to say i have been quite disappointed by this forum. I thought it would be different here compared to a United forum because it's only been a couple of years since you have this financial asset.

But too many people here have already forgotten what it was like before the Cheikh, and were spoilt by the millions.
For fuck sake, you are in the prospect of signing one of the world most promising youngster, and some still aren't satisfied !


If you need me, i'll be on my Lille's forum, where we all would be incredibly happy to sign Marvin Martin, whatever he may or may not have said in the press.
It's been a year and half he's supposed to be nailed on Lille, and still nothing has happened. But we wait patiently, us.



Good bye.
Bye
 
pudge said:
Hkibou said:
Goo said:
I agree to a certain extent.
Thank you. Fortunately there are some sensible people here.

I think people say these things so it makes it easier to dislike players when/if they sign for your rivals. People want to be able to say "See, I told you..." etc.

It's probably difficult for you to understand from our point of view. I've said it before on here, City fans are emotionally involved with this club (just like all fans of their clubs), so are sensitive to "attacks". (Not that I'm saying Hazard has attacked he club.)
Lille fans, and fans from many other clubs are as emotionally involved with their club, that is not a reason to act so childishly...


I personally think Hazard has done nothing wrong, but I can understand people flapping about the deal. Especially as he could just as easily move to United.
Personnally, i can't understand.


I don't think i will come here anymore. I have to say i have been quite disappointed by this forum. I thought it would be different here compared to a United forum because it's only been a couple of years since you have this financial asset.

But too many people here have already forgotten what it was like before the Cheikh, and were spoilt by the millions.
For fuck sake, you are in the prospect of signing one of the world most promising youngster, and some still aren't satisfied !


If you need me, i'll be on my Lille's forum, where we all would be incredibly happy to sign Marvin Martin, whatever he may or may not have said in the press.
It's been a year and half he's supposed to be nailed on Lille, and still nothing has happened. But we wait patiently, us.



Good bye.
Bye
See ya
 
Hkibou said:
Goo said:
I agree to a certain extent.
Thank you. Fortunately there are some sensible people here.

I think people say these things so it makes it easier to dislike players when/if they sign for your rivals. People want to be able to say "See, I told you..." etc.

It's probably difficult for you to understand from our point of view. I've said it before on here, City fans are emotionally involved with this club (just like all fans of their clubs), so are sensitive to "attacks". (Not that I'm saying Hazard has attacked he club.)
Lille fans, and fans from many other clubs are as emotionally involved with their club, that is not a reason to act so childishly...


I personally think Hazard has done nothing wrong, but I can understand people flapping about the deal. Especially as he could just as easily move to United.
Personnally, i can't understand.


I don't think i will come here anymore. I have to say i have been quite disappointed by this forum. I thought it would be different here compared to a United forum because it's only been a couple of years since you have this financial asset.

But too many people here have already forgotten what it was like before the Cheikh, and were spoilt by the millions.
For fuck sake, you are in the prospect of signing one of the world most promising youngster, and some still aren't satisfied !


If you need me, i'll be on my Lille's forum, where we all would be incredibly happy to sign Marvin Martin, whatever he may or may not have said in the press.
It's been a year and half he's supposed to be nailed on Lille, and still nothing has happened. But we wait patiently, us.



Good bye.

Peace. Have fun getting the shite kicked out of you by PSG for the rest of your sodding lives.
 
Helmet Cole said:
pudge said:
Hkibou said:
I don't think i will come here anymore. I have to say i have been quite disappointed by this forum. I thought it would be different here compared to a United forum because it's only been a couple of years since you have this financial asset.

But too many people here have already forgotten what it was like before the Cheikh, and were spoilt by the millions.
For fuck sake, you are in the prospect of signing one of the world most promising youngster, and some still aren't satisfied !


If you need me, i'll be on my Lille's forum, where we all would be incredibly happy to sign Marvin Martin, whatever he may or may not have said in the press.
It's been a year and half he's supposed to be nailed on Lille, and still nothing has happened. But we wait patiently, us.



Good bye.
Bye
See ya
Bye bye, thanks for all the insults.
 
Hkibou said:
Thank you. Fortunately there are some sensible people here.

Lille fans, and fans from many other clubs are as emotionally involved with their club, that is not a reason to act so childishly...

Personnally, i can't understand.


You're perfectly entitled to your opinion.

As I said, I know all fans are emotionally involved with their clubs and their players which is why I can understand your staunch defense of Hazard. I don't condone some people's comments on here, I think largely they're totally incorrect and pointless. Having said that, I can still understand why people might be getting tense about the situation, and tense people are prone to snapping and posting things they don't necessarily mean. (Just look at the match day thread when we're losing.. full of "Sell him", "he's shit" etc. none of which they would be saying if they weren't in those circumstances.)

If we sign Hazard, you can bet the second it's announced it will all stop.

If you are leaving for good, good luck with Lille in the future.
 
i guess when you hang out in a big group like this, everybody's periods sync up.

you guys need to chill the fuck out. if you were 21 contemplating several multi-million pound contracts, you'd take your sweet time too. he doesn't owe anybody anything until he signs his name on the line.

until then, ease up on this sense of entitlement...it's kind of pathetic. we have a championship team with or without hazard.
 
cleav said:
i guess when you hang out in a big group like this, everybody's periods sync up.

you guys need to chill the fuck out. if you were 21 contemplating several multi-million pound contracts, you'd take your sweet time too. he doesn't owe anybody anything until he signs his name on the line.

until then, ease up on this sense of entitlement...it's kind of pathetic. we have a championship team with or without hazard.


+1
 
Hikbou:

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J'ai pas mal suivi sur les forums mancuniens ce qu'il se dit, j'ai essayé de discuter avec eux mais ils sont vraiment à gerber.

Tous à traiter Hazard de petit connard arrogant tout cela parce qu'il les fait un peu patienter. Ils pensent que parce qu'ils ont gagné le titre les joueurs devraient sucer les couilles de Mancini et signer bénévolement. L'hésitation d'Hazard ne leur fait pas du tout plaisir car elle les remet à leur place, et leur montre qu'il leur reste du chemin à faire avant de dominer le Premier League.

Je les ai quitté là dessus :


I quite followed the forums what they say, I tried to talk to them but they are really to throw up.

Hazard to treat all of arrogant little asshole all because he's a little wait. They think that because they won the title players should suck the balls to Mancini and sign voluntarily. The reluctance of Hazard does not make them happy at all because it puts them in their place, and shows them that they still work to do before dominating the Premier League.

I left them over there:
 
royle said:
cleav said:
until then, ease up on this sense of entitlement...

That is already creeping into our support. On here anyway.
Speaking for myself, I don't have a sense of entitlement, only the expectation that a player we are involved with should have the graciousness too maybe stop talking about how he might go to us, or he might go to our enemies, until after the transfer is done.

It doesn't help anyone. It does nothing but big himself up. It's arrogant. And I'd say that whether he was signing for us or not.

We're not entitled to sign him, but we are entitled to a bit of respect.
 
MSP said:
royle said:
cleav said:
until then, ease up on this sense of entitlement...

That is already creeping into our support. On here anyway.

Hazard doesn't help himself (or us equally) with his public auctioning of himself in media.

It was pretty poor what he was doing in last week or so. Never saw that before.

maybe i missed something specific, but i just don't trust the media at all. they will embellish and just plain fabricate things to get some readers. add to that, every time he's in public he gets a microphone shoved in his face with 100 questions to follow. what can he really say in that situation? he doesn't have to rush his decision for everyone else's convenience.

if i had three companies competing to employ me, you can be fucking positive i would milk it for all it's worth. and if anyone says they'd do otherwise, i call them a liar...or a fool. of course he's going to try to get maximum salary, playing time, etc. he's talking about signing a contract that's the length of a quarter of his life thusfar. good for him...shows he's not a fucking moron.

we're obviously biased, but i think we all agree that city has the most to offer. take solace in that and sleep easy. if he decides not to come here, it's because he's scared he won't get playing time. and if that's the case, who wants his insecure ass on our squad anyway? if he's not confident in himself, why should we be confident in his abilities?

we're going to have another full week of media speculation and bullshit. prepare yourselves. in fact, take a break....come back next saturday and see what he decides. go splash some cold water on your face and pull yourselves together.
 
No mate, I don't have absolute any problem with him trying to milk it and not running to us as soon as we call him. There's more chance he could be rag than City fan actually so there's 99% of chances he doesn't feel a shit about City.

But it's classless to do an interview (and it's real one, TV interview so no media lies) and say - It's between Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea.

That's really disrespectful for any of 3 teams and their fans. Specially when 2 of those 3 are arch rivals.

I can't imagine anyone saying - it's between Barcelona and Real Madrid. Well, anyone but Eden boy.

To be honest, I would obviously like him to come here and I think he most probably will. I wouldn't care at all if he chose Chelsea and would hate if he chose rags as they would suddenly come up to the sun again and be themselves - arrogant twats.
 
MSP said:
No mate, I don't have absolute any problem with him trying to milk it and not running to us as soon as we call him. There's more chance he could be rag than City fan actually so there's 99% of chances he doesn't feel a shit about City.

But it's classless to do an interview (and it's real one, TV interview so no media lies) and say - It's between Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea.

That's really disrespectful for any of 3 teams and their fans. Specially when 2 of those 3 are arch rivals.

I can't imagine anyone saying - it's between Barcelona and Real Madrid. Well, anyone but Eden boy.
Exactly, and I take issue with anybody having a pop at City fans for objecting to that.
 
People should really think before they post.

I'm almost totally convinced that players/management/journalists/agents/whoever look at forums like this to get information they may want/need.

He's 21 years old and never been under the stresses of a big move like this before! Some of the comments and things being said about him here are bizarre, not to mention that a lot of it could have come from his agent and not him!!!

You never know he could be reading this and this thread COULD be the reason he won't sign for us. I hope not, because it's the silent majority who don't feel the same way.



(As I said COULD, before I'm quoted as stating it as a fact.)
 
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