Eden Hazard

[Speaker]

I can't seem to find the article but there were concrete quotes with Lukaku saying he did not want to join Chelsea if he was just going to be loaned out. This was before he joined. I think he was reassured he would get more time than he has done and must be a bit disgruntled with the whole thing, and I believe this is the kind of frustration that other players would be wary of ie Hazard

I've got nothing against you, you're a good poster but if what I've just written is correct (I may be way off the mark, I realise that) then it does make me slightly happy, stockpiling all the upcoming talent not with any intention of playing them just to stop rivals getting them is frustrating.

I can understand the frustration with that. I don't remember Lukaku saying that but it would make sense considering where he is. Fact is if he wants to start, he has to outperform Fernando Torres (and I could probably do that) and Drogba in training. If he had his heart set on coming in at 19 and starting for a CL club he set his sights a little too high. That said his brief cameos have looked really good so far, but he needs to work on his technique. Miles off Drogba yet.

Wage wise with Hazard personal terms have been agreed according to him, so I guess it can't be too much of a stumbling block, and we wouldn't be wasting time negotiating if there wasn't a chance of agreeing a fee. He doesn't seem to be about the money, he knows that Chelsea and City could pay him crazy wages but he also knows commanding a first team place will be unlikely and as a result he will be less satisfied, he seems to like English football, and my above description of the English team's situation sums up why a move to Spurs isn't such a crazy one.

He said the same thing about us not a month ago. We have a whole interview of him saying it somewhere on our forums. Before that he said the same about Arsenal and before then it was Real Madrid with Zidane's shout out to him. I would be really surprised if he agreed to fit into Spurs' wage structure with clubs like that, with the financial clout, all out to get him.

By the way, you're right about City's massive rotation, but at Chelsea he'd be competing with Malouda. Mata should be in the middle and our lack of a left winger has stuck him out there. But I'm personally hoping for somebody faster and more direct than Hazard. I'd rather Gotze or even Willian because we're STILL missing a player like that after five years post Robben.

Hazard has a lot more experience than Mata playing through the middle, and Hazard is a lot faster than Gotze as well.

 

[citytill1die84]

Don't need him Gervinho looked good in the French league.

 

[Jonathan1979]

I saw the original interview and this is all much ado about nothing.

He said: 'Spurs are a nice club with a lot of good players and I would love to play in the Premier league.'

That's it basically. In fact, I think had they named Chelsea, Man C, Man U or Arsenal he'd have given the same reply.

About Spain, he said that maybe their game style fitted him best but if he chose the Primera Division it would have to be to play for either Madrid or Barcelona, cos those are the only relevant teams in the Primera Division, but he was realistic enough to add he doubted he'd be getting much playing time and as a 21y old that's what interested him most right now.

 

[spurspinter1]

"I have not signed anything at Tottenham," Hazard told talkshow La Tribune on Belgian-based TV station RTBF.
"Maybe I will play there next season. It is a nice club with a lot of good players and absolutely a top coach."

"Perhaps Spanish football would be better for me, rather than the English. But if you want to be champion, you would need to play with Barcelona or Real Madrid.
"The opportunities would be much smaller. The competition would be strong at Tottenham too, but less so that at Barca or Real.
"I think I can learn the most in England. You play a big game every week and the atmosphere is great."
Hazard also dropped a huge hint Spurs had won the race for his signature, as he added: "The transfer is still pending. I have not signed anything yet, but I hope it will happen in the near future."

I'm not letting myself believe this one just yet but he's being a pretty flirty bastard with us...

 

[Castiel]

Hazard has a lot more experience than Mata playing through the middle, and Hazard is a lot faster than Gotze as well.

I already clarified what I meant re Gotze.

Have you seen Mata in the middle for Chelsea? He completely runs the show. Out wide without a creative player in the middle he, and the team, are less effective. This is why we tried so hard to get Modric from you.

For years we've relied on Drogba who, when on song, can undo anyone without defence splitting passes or clever throughballs. Now that he's at retirement age we're really suffering with an industrious midfield lacking in creativity. At the moment Mata has a licence to roam anywhere but it severely hurts our left side, which is why I said I'd take Willian over Hazard, even though he's not as talented.

 

[Jonathan1979]

Since we're teasing and all: a compilation of his season so far:
Not too bad, i'd say.
<a class="postlink" href="http://youtu.be/SqN5jZs6Aoo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://youtu.be/SqN5jZs6Aoo</a>

(my opinion about him: he's dying to leave Lille, but Lille are demanding an excessively high amount for him. This way a lot of clubs simply can't afford him, even though maybe a slightly smaller club might suit him better for the time being, after all, he's only 21y old.)

 

[Speaker]

Hazard has a lot more experience than Mata playing through the middle, and Hazard is a lot faster than Gotze as well.

I already clarified what I meant re Gotze.

Have you seen Mata in the middle for Chelsea? He completely runs the show. Out wide without a creative player in the middle he, and the team, are less effective. This is why we tried so hard to get Modric from you.

For years we've relied on Drogba who, when on song, can undo anyone without defence splitting passes or clever throughballs. Now that he's at retirement age we're really suffering with an industrious midfield lacking in creativity. At the moment Mata has a licence to roam anywhere but it severely hurts our left side, which is why I said I'd take Willian over Hazard, even though he's not as talented.

In my opinion Hazard would be a much more useful player than Willian as he can play through the middle, on the left, or on the right.

That way you could have an attacking four of

Torres

Mata Hazard Sturridge

That way you could have Hazard and Mata swapping positions throughout the course of the game, and Hazard could also play on the right whenever Sturridge doesn't play, giving you more versatility. Couple that with the fact that both Hazard and Mata have a great shot on them, it would make you far more dangerous in my opinion. No one in that front four is exactly slow either. Sturridge may need to be upgraded at some point though, unless someone can stop him from shooting everytime he is within 35 yards of goal.

 

[Worst Case Ontario]

I refuse to believe that he will go to Spurs over Chelsea(if hes heading to England)
Congrats to them if they pull this off though. No wait, that sounds wrong. Feck you dirty bastards...ahh thats better.

 

[Blue Haze]

So... how long until they're 'blown out of the water' and this is exposed as a distraction from Arry to England?

Fair play if they pull it off but utterly out of character with their wage and transfer structure.

 

[Tevez City]

So... how long until they're 'blown out of the water' and this is exposed as a distraction from Arry to England?

Fair play if they pull it off but utterly out of character with their wage and transfer structure.

Jewish knows how to spend.

They didn't waste a single pound on their last signings such as VDV, Ade, Parker, Peinaar & Saha.

But I think they will break the bank this summer for Hazard because he will take them to another level.

 

[Crouchinho]

Since we're teasing and all: a compilation of his season so far:
Not too bad, i'd say.
<a class="postlink" href="http://youtu.be/SqN5jZs6Aoo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://youtu.be/SqN5jZs6Aoo</a>

(my opinion about him: he's dying to leave Lille, but Lille are demanding an excessively high amount for him. This way a lot of clubs simply can't afford him, even though maybe a slightly smaller club might suit him better for the time being, after all, he's only 21y old.)

I know it's only a Youtube clip but that didn't really wow me an awful lot. Seemed a bit greedy and poor decision making.

Reminded me a bit of Adel at Spurs, trying to do too much.

30m pounds seems a massive gamble. I remember Queresma being hyped up even more than Hazard and he was very medicore for me

 

[Darkhorse]

He clearly is quality, but is he worth what we would have to pay? There are some bloody exciting young wingers atm that we could look at. Although if we are going to splash out big on a player this summer I would prefer it to be a winger and Hazard would fit the bill in that he is young and only going to improve.<br /><br />-- Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:58 pm --<br /><br />He clearly is quality, but is he worth what we would have to pay? There are some bloody exciting young wingers atm that we could look at. Although if we are going to splash out big on a player this summer I would prefer it to be a winger and Hazard would fit the bill in that he is young and only going to improve.

 

[Castiel]

Jewish knows how to spend.

I don't mean to be that guy. But considering whats going on in football at the moment, is that really a clever comment to make?

In my opinion Hazard would be a much more useful player than Willian as he can play through the middle, on the left, or on the right.

That way you could have an attacking four of

Torres

Mata Hazard Sturridge

That way you could have Hazard and Mata swapping positions throughout the course of the game, and Hazard could also play on the right whenever Sturridge doesn't play, giving you more versatility. Couple that with the fact that both Hazard and Mata have a great shot on them, it would make you far more dangerous in my opinion. No one in that front four is exactly slow either. Sturridge may need to be upgraded at some point though, unless someone can stop him from shooting everytime he is within 35 yards of goal.

Some people like the "fluid" movement based forward line but I'm still a fan of how Mourinho had us working. Organised compact narrow defence, industrious midfield, pace and creativity on the wings and a powerful centre forward. We are SO slow these days that its just tedious to watch (and the results aren't good either).

I've never been sucked into the hype of trying to emulate Barcelona and I personally think its a waste of time trying to. They do what they do very well, but it isn't the only path to success. In fact, in a grudging complement, I'd rather play like Spurs are this season than them. Your system isn't far off how Mourinho had us playing, but our midfield was less creative and more domineering. Our defence was also a lot better but you've been much more attack orientated, with the exception of Jose's first season. I thought it was basically the same system, different philosophy. Thats the style I enjoy and what I personally feel works best in the Premier League. Even City are having problems breaking teams down lately and they play a very intricate passing game with some very creative players. At least they did when on top form.

Anyway, I liked Willian more than Hazard because he seemed to produce what we really needed. Somebody to maraud that left wing with some trickery and pace and really get at defenders. Mata isn't particularly pacey but he can run through defences, the problem is he has to move into midfield to open teams up and we're stuck without a left wing. We've also got a problem of teams trying to mark him out of the game. He essentially does two jobs at once at the moment and its unacceptable. Hazard is no doubt the more talented (against Willian) but I don't think he's the perfect fit. Not that I'd say no to him.

 

[Tevez City]

Jewish knows how to spend.

I don't mean to be that guy. But considering whats going on in football at the moment, is that really a clever comment to make?

.

No offense mate, I said it as a compliment.

 

[Matt the Giant]

I wouldn't be too happy about him going to Tottenham. When quality players such as him comes to the PL I'd prefer if it was to us and not our closest rivals.

 

[Astuteboy]

How much are Lille going to want? £25m? £30m? Not sure Levy would want to open his wallet that wide for one player (although not saying he's not able to).

Unless they cash in on Bale perhaps.

 

[117 M34]

Wasn't Mourinho intersted in Hazard for Madrid earlier in the year?
Mourinho + Hazard to spurs?

 

[Jonathan1979]

Wasn't Mourinho intersted in Hazard for Madrid earlier in the year?
Mourinho + Hazard to spurs?

It appears Zidane (not Mourinho) is very eager to get him to Madrid, but Hazard said himself how he didn't feel like going to either Madrid or Barcelona as he thought he wouldn't get the playing time he needs to improve his game.

 

[marcspurs]

I do love some of the nonsense written by ill informed fans of other clubs about Spurs...

Firstly, there is no wage structure, there is no ceiling in place.... DL pays what he feels is appropriate and what he can negotiate (and he really can negotiate)....

Bale and Modric have both got new contracts on the table that will make them both Spurs first £100k a week players.... should they sign them, both will be "under contract" at Spurs until 2016....

Hazard has a release clause in his contract at €40m.... however that is to join another French side... transfer fee will be between £20-£25m.... Since the January 2011 window, we have spent £8m on players... Friedel, Parker, Ade (loan fee), Saha, Pienaar.... and having sold Crouch/Palacios for £16m, Pav for £8m, Keane for £2.5m, Hutton for £4m.... removed top wage earners from the payroll Crouch, Keane who along with King were the highest paid players at the club, Woodgate another released on big money...

The surplus in what we have spent compared to the fees received for players sold will cover the transfer fee for Hazard....

All that prudent work financially, coupled with the CL money barely touched from last season means we have a nice transfer kitty for this summer....

As for the new stadium, this took another big step forwards this week, when the amendments to the associated developments around the stadium were approved by the local council along with the local and central govt. funding.....

Spurs now have no obligations financially to improve the local transport, roads, stations etc... saving some £30m.... The scheme has the cost at around £400m for the new stadium and surrounding area re-development... the Supermarket will be the first part to be built, earmarked to start this autumn with a Supermarket chain already to take it over. Naming rights for the Stadium will cover close to 50% of the cost... meaning the club would need to fund close to £200m themselves....

This is still over £200m less than Arsenal had to borrow to build their stadium... many people forget we are in the midst of a "double-dip" recession, where a construction contract like this is very attractive for bidders, I would expect the club to have a high level of competition among companies wanting the contract....

It will have an effect in the future on what we might spend (but so will the FFP's) but bearing in mind the stadium won't be completed for upto 3-4 years, not sure it will effect what we are spending in the transfer market this summer....

 

[FantasyIreland]

Wow,Spurs are just the best......