Edin Dzeko (continued)

[JasminBosnia]

someone should make you sit down and read everything you've posted. I was at the Cardiff game, obviously unlike you. he was shit, apart from one long range shot. since he hits about 1 of those a season, I think that can safely be listed under 'fluke'. give it up baka, the only thing you're achieving here is pissing city fans off and turning them against your precious hero.

Long range shot? Preseason vs Sunderland and vs Cardiff, not so many days apart. And yeah both were beauties from world beater.
Fluke? Alvaro scored vs Pool and that was fluke, and apart a goal he was shit two days ago, right?

You go ahead and give it up, because you are pissing Balkan city fans off. City does not belong just to fans from UK, club wanted to go worldwide and this is what happens.

-- Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:25 pm --

Debate here also starts when i.e. "Pro-edin brigade" member post something like "He was really close to be MOTM, just needed a goal". He immediately get bashed here by the same dozen of posters and mods who think Edin is shit regardless of his performance.

Nobody abuse the other poster if he post the same or similar message in another thread.

I imagine if I post "edin is donkey" I could expect personal attack from hater battalion :D. Funny.

-- Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:16 pm --

And Edin is number 1 striker in the club at the moment, other strikers are injured or performing very poor.

even with aguero and jovetic injured, negredo has more goals in last 6 games than dzeko and more assists, yaya is form striker at the club. dzeko 3rd.

Nope, Edin is 25th in pecking order. Everybody should be listed before his name shows up on the roster.

 

[aguero93:20]

someone should make you sit down and read everything you've posted. I was at the Cardiff game, obviously unlike you. he was shit, apart from one long range shot. since he hits about 1 of those a season, I think that can safely be listed under 'fluke'. give it up baka, the only thing you're achieving here is pissing city fans off and turning them against your precious hero.

Long range shot? Preseason vs Sunderland and vs Cardiff, not so many days apart. And yeah both were beauties from world beeter.
Fluke? Alvaro scored vs Pool and that was fluke, and apart a goal he was shit two days ago, right?

You go ahead and give it up, because you are pissing Balkan city fans off. City does not belong just to fans from UK, club wanted to go worldwide and this is what happens.

preseason goals again? give me a fucking break, he played against sunderlands reserves in july and scored from long range, whoopty fucking do, you two are so blind you cant even see the majority of the stick dzeko gets on here originates from your comments, weshould rename this the baka and jasmin thread and leave it to the pair of you and block you from the next thread about dzeko.
and don't tell me to give it up, ive been supporting this club since 1993 when we had fuck all and went to worse.

 

[Matty]

It was just too soon. Or too obvious to bench Dzeko after just bad 45 min in third Hull game. After all Dzeko was proven and best Citys PL scorer ( 14 goals ) last season.

You should not benched that kind of player. And give him scraps in next 15 games. Is not HARSH as many would say. I would use much worse word. Again i would not have any problem if both ( Dzeko,Negredo ) was given 10 PL games each. And Better one played in second half of the season more games. Negredo was given 450 extra PL minutes. It was obvious that he would score more and looked better ( player ) with that extra minutes.

You're saying "of course Negredo looks a better player, he's been given 450 extra minutes". That's ignoring the fact he's been given the extra 45o minutes BECAUSE he looks the better player. The minutes are as a result of looking better, not the cause of him looking better.

After such a great performances in pre season and first two games. Dzeko should be given more than just scraps. It could be like that you are saying. It also could be that threat of Dzeko and Pantilimon were just used to get out the most of Negredo and Hart. Pellegrini knew from the start that Dzeko/Pantilimon would be benched after first big mistake. For Negredo/Hart to be benched. There needed to be much more than few mistakes. It is called pre-preference. Me and you can only speculate on that. Which version mine, yours is right. But doing things mine, Mancinis and many other managers way City would gain three infrom strikers ( Aguero,Negredo , Dzeko with 10 + PL goals each ) firing on all cylinders. Which was exact thing which won Mancini a league ( even not having world class DM as Fernandinho is ). Pellegrini now have 1,5 inform strikers. Aguero and Negredo ( who need 550 min + to score a PL AWAY goal ). As for Dzeko, it is huge risk that he will underperform for the rest of the season. And there is big posibility that he will be gone in January or Summer. Dzeko could of stay for 18 monthes at least in other scenarios and be vital part of City which he was. And what was always my wish.

You are aware that there hasn't been a top division side that's scored as many league goals as we have by this stage of the season for over half a century right? We're doing just fine when it comes to scoring goals. Aguero's got 13, Yaya 10, Negredo 8, Nasri, Silva, Dzeko 4 each, even Fernandinho and Navas have chipped in with 3 apiece. Whatever we're doing in the attacking third, it's clearly working very well indeed. It isn't unreasonable to suggest that Negredo's overall play (NOT just his goalscoring, a constant argument I seem to have on this thread, goals scored ISN'T the only means by which a player's value/worth to the side should be measured) has aided the team as a whole to score a great deal of goals. Given this why would you give Dzeko more gametime and Negredo less? Because that's more "fair" to Dzeko? Not really our problem, he'll play when needed.

Dzeko was given some gametime at the start of the season, he played well against Newcastle, not so well against Cardiff or Hull. Negredo came off the bench against both Cardiff and Hull to score goals, so was rewarded with starting at Stoke. Dzeko then started the game in Plzen, with Negredo being preferred against United. After the fantastic display against United Pellegrini stuck with the Aguero/Negredo pairing, and his performances have merited that be the main pairing ever since. Negredo has scored 15 goals in all competitions, a great achievement given this is his first season with City. You can argue Dzeko would have scored the same number given the same game time, but why risk it when Negredo is playing so well?

 

[Anonymous]

someone should make you sit down and read everything you've posted. I was at the Cardiff game, obviously unlike you. he was shit, apart from one long range shot. since he hits about 1 of those a season, I think that can safely be listed under 'fluke'. give it up baka, the only thing you're achieving here is pissing city fans off and turning them against your precious hero.

Long range shot? Preseason vs Sunderland and vs Cardiff, not so many days apart. And yeah both were beauties from world beeter.
Fluke? Alvaro scored vs Pool and that was fluke, and apart a goal he was shit two days ago, right?

You go ahead and give it up, because you are pissing Balkan city fans off. City does not belong just to fans from UK, club wanted to go worldwide and this is what happens.

preseason goals again? give me a fucking break, he played against sunderlands reserves in july and scored from long range, whoopty fucking do, you two are so blind you cant even see the majority of the stick dzeko gets on here originates from your comments, weshould rename this the baka and jasmin thread and leave it to the pair of you and block you from the next thread about dzeko.
and don't tell me to give it up, ive been supporting this club since 1993 when we had fuck all and went to worse.

I was reading this forum for 2,5 years and did not post one single post. There where tons of Dzeko abuse in that 2,5 years. SO i dont think that two of us are the main reason. And again Negredo may as well be proven better player which i would accept. But not to bench player like Dzeko after first bad 45 min. It was just too obvious. Waiting for first big mistake. And than feed him with scraps wor next 10 games. It was not the right way. Sadly Dzeko did not show his maximum potential in this club. And did not progress as a player. He indeed has lost some of his skils.
You of course will not answer me on Negredo long range shoot with his right. Even with his left they are rare.

 

[Matty]

Debate here also starts when i.e. "Pro-edin brigade" member post something like "He was really close to be MOTM, just needed a goal". He immediately get bashed here by the same dozen of posters and mods who think Edin is shit regardless of his performance.

Nobody abuse the other poster if he post the same or similar message in another thread.

I imagine if I post "edin is donkey" I could expect personal attack from hater battalion :D. Funny.

-- Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:16 pm --

And Edin is number 1 striker in the club at the moment, other strikers are injured or performing very poor.

Sigh, and here it starts again. I simply CAN'T keep pointing out that I, and many, many others DON'T think Dzeko is shit. We simply think he's not as good as our other options. We prefer Aguero and Negredo, as does Pellegrini it would seem, and our goalscoring exploits this season would lead us to believe that preference is the correct one to make.

Dzeko isn't number 1 striker at the moment. Negredo hasn't been at his best the past couple of games, but he's still the preferred choice when it comes starting a striker. If we were to play one of the big sides tomorrow, and Pellegrini was to go with just 1 striker, then the majority would expect him to pick Negredo. Negredo, in Aguero's absence, is the number 1 striker at the club.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Is there at least one level headed Bosnian poster on this forum? I understand that they signed up for this forum on the back of an unhealthy obsession with Edin but surely there must be a sensible one out there!

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Is there at least one level headed Bosnian poster on this forum? I understand that they signed up for this forum on the back of an unhealthy obsession with Edin but surely there must be a sensible one out there!

He is the Robbie Keane of Bosnia. Scores goals but is absolutely awful. Some Irish fans refuse to even listen to objective criticism of Robbie.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Is there at least one level headed Bosnian poster on this forum? I understand that they signed up for this forum on the back of an unhealthy obsession with Edin but surely there must be a sensible one out there!

He is the Robbie Keane of Bosnia. Scores goals but is absolutely awful. Some Irish fans refuse to even listen to objective criticism of Robbie.

Being part Irish I resent this post.

*Goes to get a long list of statistics that big up Robbie Keane but have absolutely nothing to do with anything posted*

 

[aguero93:20]

Is there at least one level headed Bosnian poster on this forum? I understand that they signed up for this forum on the back of an unhealthy obsession with Edin but surely there must be a sensible one out there!

He is the Robbie Keane of Bosnia. Scores goals but is absolutely awful. Some Irish fans refuse to even listen to objective criticism of Robbie.

only the bloody stupid ones. personally I see it as a condemnation of the state of the national team that he still gets game time.

 

[JasminBosnia]

Speaking of classy players, Robbie Keane was one of them :D.

I know, this is a big plus for me. You are welcome.

 

[aguero93:20]

Is there at least one level headed Bosnian poster on this forum? I understand that they signed up for this forum on the back of an unhealthy obsession with Edin but surely there must be a sensible one out there!

He is the Robbie Keane of Bosnia. Scores goals but is absolutely awful. Some Irish fans refuse to even listen to objective criticism of Robbie.

Being part Irish I resent this post.

*Goes to get a long list of statistics that big up Robbie Keane but have absolutely nothing to do with anything posted*

*claims that Robbie Keane is a better player than ibrahimovic, but asserts that Clinton Morrison would be a far better striker for l.a. galaxy.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Speaking of classy players, Robbie Keane was one of them :D.

I know, this is a big plus for me. You are welcome.

if by classy you mean never show in front for the ball and wait in behind world class centre halves waiting for them to make a mistake, then yeah, he was classy. Or maybe you mean to point to the channel in order for a ball to be played in and run from inside to out meaning the only option available is to take the ball to the corner flag, yeah classy..

About as infuriating as Dzeko.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

He is the Robbie Keane of Bosnia. Scores goals but is absolutely awful. Some Irish fans refuse to even listen to objective criticism of Robbie.

Being part Irish I resent this post.

*Goes to get a long list of statistics that big up Robbie Keane but have absolutely nothing to do with anything posted*

*claims that Robbie Keane is a better player than ibrahimovic, but asserts that Clinton Morrison would be a far better striker for l.a. galaxy.

Actually MATE, the Irish diamond has played under roughly 12 managers but not one of them has managed him right, they set up the team wrong and whenever he has a bad 45 minutes they just drop him. He's never reached his potential at club level and it's not his fault at all, it's the 12 managers. Robbie Keane is the record goalscorer for Ireland and Aguero isn't the record goalscorer for Argentina, so obviously Keane > Aguero.

 

[Proelia]

Being part Irish I resent this post.

*Goes to get a long list of statistics that big up Robbie Keane but have absolutely nothing to do with anything posted*

*claims that Robbie Keane is a better player than ibrahimovic, but asserts that Clinton Morrison would be a far better striker for l.a. galaxy.

Actually MATE, the Irish diamond has played under roughly 12 managers but not one of them has managed him right, they set up the team wrong and whenever he has a bad 45 minutes they just drop him. He's never reached his potential at club level and it's not his fault at all, it's the 12 managers. Robbie Keane is the record goalscorer for Ireland and Aguero isn't the record goalscorer for Argentina, so obviously Keane > Aguero.

Amazing post

 

[aguero93:20]

Being part Irish I resent this post.

*Goes to get a long list of statistics that big up Robbie Keane but have absolutely nothing to do with anything posted*

*claims that Robbie Keane is a better player than ibrahimovic, but asserts that Clinton Morrison would be a far better striker for l.a. galaxy.

Actually MATE, the Irish diamond has played under roughly 12 managers but not one of them has managed him right, they set up the team wrong and whenever he has a bad 45 minutes they just drop him. He's never reached his potential at club level and it's not his fault at all, it's the 12 managers. Robbie Keane is the record goalscorer for Ireland and Aguero isn't the record goalscorer for Argentina, so obviously Keane > Aguero.

2 years ago scored worldie from 25 yards v Georgia, manager should play him every game or manager will be sorry, Robbie will go to barcelona/chelsea/arsenal and they will win quadruple, {YouTube video of Keane giving ball away for wolves as 17 year old that supposedly proves he's better than messi}

 

[kanovic]

It's time up for dzeko. He doesn't seem to care anymore IMO. The sooner he leaves the sooner we can bring in a striker with more quality. He won't leave till summer though

 

[BlueTG]

Long range shot? Preseason vs Sunderland and vs Cardiff, not so many days apart. And yeah both were beauties from world beeter.
Fluke? Alvaro scored vs Pool and that was fluke, and apart a goal he was shit two days ago, right?

You go ahead and give it up, because you are pissing Balkan city fans off. City does not belong just to fans from UK, club wanted to go worldwide and this is what happens.

preseason goals again? give me a fucking break, he played against sunderlands reserves in july and scored from long range, whoopty fucking do, you two are so blind you cant even see the majority of the stick dzeko gets on here originates from your comments, weshould rename this the baka and jasmin thread and leave it to the pair of you and block you from the next thread about dzeko.
and don't tell me to give it up, ive been supporting this club since 1993 when we had fuck all and went to worse.

I was reading this forum for 2,5 years and did not post one single post. There where tons of Dzeko abuse in that 2,5 years. SO i dont think that two of us are the main reason. And again Negredo may as well be proven better player which i would accept. But not to bench player like Dzeko after first bad 45 min. It was just too obvious. Waiting for first big mistake. And than feed him with scraps wor next 10 games. It was not the right way. Sadly Dzeko did not show his maximum potential in this club. And did not progress as a player. He indeed has lost some of his skils.
You of course will not answer me on Negredo long range shoot with his right. Even with his left they are rare.

Let me end this pointless spin on your argument, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT FUCKING FOOT THEY KICK IT INTO THE NET WITH.

As for Negredo and long range shots, his goal against Tottenham was from the same distance, edge of the box, as Dzeko's against Sunderland was.

Also goals 8,7 and 4 were from this range, and look at the last goal. Class.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khbb5-R_H4E[/youtube]

You lot are fucking blinkered. And debate is just pointless.

 

[Corazondezaba]

I'll credit him when he plays well. I think a lot of people suspected he'd be quiet today and that's exactly what he was. More or less invisible.

Negredo didn't have a good game but he continually showed for the ball. Too many performances like this from Dzeko

I only saw the first half and I agree with you but even though Negredo showed for the ball he hasn't done much with it (lost it mostly) Dzeko was more comfortable and kept coming deep and did quite well, don't know if anything changed in the second half, but as I see Negredo was taken off so that might say something...

According to the commentator there was a cock up with the boards and it was Dzeko who was supposed to come off not Negredo, so yes that might say something....

-- Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:38 pm --

Negredo tried. Dzeko didn't. Dzeko had zero goal threat in front of a team that had 70% possession.....and a big reason for that was because Dzeko just jogged around all day long. He didn't make many mistakes, and maybe that's why some people think he did OK, but when a team has 70% possession and has so few efforts on goal, you have to look at the forwards. In the 1st half Negredo flicked it over the defender's head and almost scored, and he could have had a penalty as well. Not a lot went for him, but he was always showing for the ball. Dzeko has too many games like this when he just coasts. Doesn't matter how good a player you are, you have to have the right attitude and that's Dzeko's weakness.

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It's called a forum, everybodies allowed their own opinion whether you agree with it or not.

This story about the boards cock up is poor. We'll be miscalculating goals needed to win a Champions League group next. I've said it all about Dzeko before, but the song is biz. D-Z-E-K-O by Ottowan is much better

 

[Anonymous]

Let me end this pointless spin on your argument, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT FUCKING FOOT THEY KICK IT INTO THE NET WITH.
As for Negredo and long range shots, his goal against Tottenham was from the same distance, edge of the box, as Dzeko's against Sunderland was.
Also goals 8,7 and 4 were from this range, and look at the last goal. Class.
You lot are fucking blinkered. And debate is just pointless.

It does matter very much. If you ever played this game you would know it. In a game it is 50%/50%. You just can not shoot always with one foot on the left or right side of the field. Plus in looks amater to shoot on the right side of the field with your left. There are many opportunities where your other foot is blocked or you have too shoot from such angle that it is just not possible to shoot with only one foot. In just first half of last game Negredo kicked the ball with his right and it were terrible shoots. He could not do it with his left because defender and beeing on right side of the field. To be so much blinded. Or unable to say that Dzeko is in anything better that Negredo ( which is obvious ) is not normal.
Here you go. Dzeko both. Negredo left. It is far from not important for a striker. Maybe that was the reason he was not bought by Barcelona, Real Madrid or Atletico Madrid befor age of 28. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/basics/spielervergleich/basics_18644_28396.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/basic ... 28396.html</a> ( Both, Left ).
Also if Dzeko would do something like that this thread will have 30 pages in one hour. I dont think Chelsea fans all over Torres. And they should be, because he is shit in last 2 years, with so many minutes playe., Does not produce almost any PL goals. Dzeko in Chelsea would be GREAT. With all his bad touches ( which we ironically dont see in his last games ). HE would score for fun there. Arsenal also.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qacLe8jviH4[/youtube]

I would just repeat one "real" City poster, non Bosnian.
Dzeko would walk in any PL team besides Manchester United or Liverpool. And it is a true.

 

[Damocles]

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