Edin Dzeko (continued)

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Clearly none of those things happened because they don't involve Dzeko, Dzeko is the only person who turned around our title winning season and how dare you suggest otherwise.

This. Someone finally talking sense. Keep taking your medicine.
 
Puppet Master Silva said:
jimharri said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
Yeah I presume apart from the fact Dzeko scored the equaliser, nothing else mattered too much in that QPR game for you.
Amazing how the Dzeko brigade point to that moment as the pivotal moment in our chase for the title. Let me put something to you fellas; What about Mario's last minute penalty against Spurs? Or what Kolarov's late equalizer against Sunderland? Or Vinnie's header against the vermin (that actually put us on top of the table)? Or Nasri's late winner against Chelsea? If none (or any) of those goals hadn't been scored, it wouldn't have mattered if Dzeko scored a hat-trick that day against QPR.

Clearly none of those things happened because they don't involve Dzeko, Dzeko is the only person who turned around our title winning season and how dare you suggest otherwise.
Those are your words not mine. And as for all the other moments of brilliance by other players, I think they get plenty of credit for it. After all none of those players get the shit Dzeko gets (except for Mario who's no longer here). And there in lies the issue.

When a player gets booed even after scoring a game winning goal (Crystal Palace game), you know there is a problem. Don't try to put this on those who actually like Dzeko for what he's done for this club. We are not the issue.
 
noise said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
jimharri said:
Amazing how the Dzeko brigade point to that moment as the pivotal moment in our chase for the title. Let me put something to you fellas; What about Mario's last minute penalty against Spurs? Or what Kolarov's late equalizer against Sunderland? Or Vinnie's header against the vermin (that actually put us on top of the table)? Or Nasri's late winner against Chelsea? If none (or any) of those goals hadn't been scored, it wouldn't have mattered if Dzeko scored a hat-trick that day against QPR.

Clearly none of those things happened because they don't involve Dzeko, Dzeko is the only person who turned around our title winning season and how dare you suggest otherwise.
Those are your words not mine. And as for all the other moments of brilliance by other players, I think they get plenty of credit for it. After all none of those players get the shit Dzeko gets (except for Mario who's no longer here). And there in lies the issue.

When a player gets booed even after scoring a game winning goal (Crystal Palace game), you know there is a problem. Don't try to put this on those who actually like Dzeko for what he's done for this club. We are not the issue.

I was at the game, Dzeko wasn't booed for scoring the winning goal. Keep clutching.
 
Puppet Master Silva said:
noise said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
Clearly none of those things happened because they don't involve Dzeko, Dzeko is the only person who turned around our title winning season and how dare you suggest otherwise.
Those are your words not mine. And as for all the other moments of brilliance by other players, I think they get plenty of credit for it. After all none of those players get the shit Dzeko gets (except for Mario who's no longer here). And there in lies the issue.

When a player gets booed even after scoring a game winning goal (Crystal Palace game), you know there is a problem. Don't try to put this on those who actually like Dzeko for what he's done for this club. We are not the issue.

I was at the game, Dzeko wasn't booed for scoring the winning goal. Keep clutching.
I don't remember saying that.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

Well if he's such a world class player, how on earth is £20m too much money?[/quote]

This is just not true. Bayern is past now. But I just give it as example that Dzeko was/is not wanted ?? I would never talked about it. If one poster did not said that no club wanted/wants Dzeko. Which is 1000% not true to say the least. Most CItys fans. Are unfortunately not aware how good and respected player Dzeko is/was. And how lethal striker he would be in Arsenal, Chelsea and others. He was/is better than Giroud, Torres and many others. Or in a team playing to his strengths. Give him 1 year in Arsenal and Giroud would not be needed anymore.

The record holder is after SPORT1 information before the commitment of the striker . Javi Martinez is also high on the list . Munich - The transfer Offensive Bayern gets going . After SPORT1 information , the record holder with striker Edin Dzeko of Manchester City should already be united. Now the Bavarians have some still on a transfer fee for the Bosnian attacker with City. /SPORT1 equal to english SKY SPORTS/
Bayern Munich have agreed terms with Edin Dzeko over a move to the Allianz Arena but are yet to agree a fee with Manchester City for the striker. /ESPN/
City ( Mancini ) demanded €30 million for Dzeko /29.5.2012/
<a class="postlink" href="http://fcbayernmk.blogspot.com/2012/07/mandzukic-on-bayern-munich-radar-as.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://fcbayernmk.blogspot.com/2012/07/ ... ar-as.html</a> /GOAL.com/

And it is not the point. At this moment. Inter Milan, AC Milan, Valencia, Dortmund ( summer ), Arsenal ( rejected by Pellegrini, not because of money ) wants him. Manchester City and Juventus have agreed a €9m (£7.6m) deal for Carlos Tevez ( The Guardian ).
Dzeko having just 18 monthes left is worth between 10-15 mil €. And there are few clubs which would pay it. So it is far from problem. The REAL question is why is Pellegrini blocking Dzeko move for Arsenal and other clubs. Not if Dzeko will be sold at reasonable price.
Also swap Dzeko for Mata would be great for both sides. I can not see why are City fans against this. Pellegrini had played his cards and chosed the way forward. Time will tell, how good his decisions were.
 
Damocles said:
You just believe everything you read in the papers don't you?
SPORT1 is biggest broadcaster. It is equal for yours SKY SPORTS. It was weeks in all biggest germans newspapers that Bayern is going for Dzeko. City had blocked that deal. Why did I use this example. Because wanted €30 million and saying that nobody wants the player are two completely different things. It is extremely harsh ( I better not use other word ) to say that Dzeko was/is not wanted player. 10-15 mil for such expirenced and good player is small money for many great clubs. Also Telegraph news of Pellegrinis block for Arsenal/Dzeko move. Was publicly said by Pellegrini.
 
Baka Sliskovic said:
Damocles said:
You just believe everything you read in the papers don't you?
SPORT1 is biggest broadcaster. It is equal for yours SKY SPORTS. It was weeks in all biggest germans newspapers that Bayern is going for Dzeko. City had blocked that deal. Why did I use this example. Because wanted €30 million and saying that nobody wants the player are two completely different things. It is extremely harsh ( better not use other word ) that say that Dzeko was/is not wanted player. 10-15 mil for such expirenced and good player in small money for many great clubs. Also Telegraph news of Pellegrinis block for Arsenal/Dzeko move. Was publicly said by Pellegrini.
There is no possible way City asked for €30m for Dzeko. They wanted van Persie and would have snatched Bayern's hands off for £20m.
 
Baka Sliskovic said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

Well if he's such a world class player, how on earth is £20m too much money?

This is just not true. Bayern is past now. But I just give it as example that Dzeko was/is not wanted ?? I would never talked about it. If one poster did not said that no club wanted/wants Dzeko. Which is 1000% not true to say the least. Most CItys fans. Are unfortunately not aware how good and respected player Dzeko is/was. And how lethal striker he would be in Arsenal, Chelsea and others. He was/is better than Giroud, Torres and many others. Or in a team playing to his strengths. Give him 1 year in Arsenal and Giroud would not be needed anymore.

The record holder is after SPORT1 information before the commitment of the striker . Javi Martinez is also high on the list . Munich - The transfer Offensive Bayern gets going . After SPORT1 information , the record holder with striker Edin Dzeko of Manchester City should already be united. Now the Bavarians have some still on a transfer fee for the Bosnian attacker with City. /SPORT1 equal to english SKY SPORTS/
Bayern Munich have agreed terms with Edin Dzeko over a move to the Allianz Arena but are yet to agree a fee with Manchester City for the striker. /ESPN/
City ( Mancini ) demanded €30 million for Dzeko /29.5.2012/
<a class="postlink" href="http://fcbayernmk.blogspot.com/2012/07/mandzukic-on-bayern-munich-radar-as.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://fcbayernmk.blogspot.com/2012/07/ ... ar-as.html</a> /GOAL.com/

And it is not the point. At this moment. Inter Milan, AC Milan, Valencia, Dortmund ( summer ), Arsenal ( rejected by Pellegrini, not because of money ) wants him. Manchester City and Juventus have agreed a €9m (£7.6m) deal for Carlos Tevez ( The Guardian ).
Dzeko having just 18 monthes left is worth between 10-15 mil €. And there are few clubs which would pay it. So it is far from problem. The REAL question is why is Pellegrini blocking Dzeko move for Arsenal and other clubs. Not if Dzeko will be sold at reasonable price.
Also swap Dzeko for Mata would be great for both sides. I can not see why are City fans against this. Pellegrini had played his cards and chosed the way forward. Time will tell, how good his decisions were.[/quote]You still here then?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Baka Sliskovic said:
Damocles said:
You just believe everything you read in the papers don't you?
SPORT1 is biggest broadcaster. It is equal for yours SKY SPORTS. It was weeks in all biggest germans newspapers that Bayern is going for Dzeko. City had blocked that deal. Why did I use this example. Because wanted €30 million and saying that nobody wants the player are two completely different things. It is extremely harsh ( better not use other word ) that say that Dzeko was/is not wanted player. 10-15 mil for such expirenced and good player in small money for many great clubs. Also Telegraph news of Pellegrinis block for Arsenal/Dzeko move. Was publicly said by Pellegrini.
There is no possible way City asked for €30m for Dzeko. They wanted van Persie and would have snatched Bayern's hands off for £20m.

It is very realistic chance that van Persie had used Manchester City as a bait. To get bigger deal from Manchester United. Like manyyyyy other players did before him in similar positions. It is really sooooo easy. Try to think as van Persie. Why would he fight with two great players ( Aguero and Tevez ) for uncertain second striker place. When he can walk into Manchester United team with Rooney as his partner. Welbeck and Chicharito are nowhere near the threat Tevez was. Tevez was best Citys player 2 years before that in a row. City did not managed to get van Persie. Which is perfectly understandable decision from the player. Why should he chose much harder and uncertain way. Would you ?? So Dzeko had stayed and was not sold to Bayern. If van Persie would agree to come to City. Mancini would probably sold Dzeko. Perfectly understandable decision. That is why City had asked more than they had payed for Dzeko, €30 million.. In that way they have said NO CHANCE to Bayern. But it is PAST.
What about future. Why is Pellegrini blocking Arsenal ( and others ) moves. Why not to swap Dzeko( sub striker ) for great Mata ( best Chelsea player in last two years and 6 monthes sub player, also spanish NT player ) ??
 
noise said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
noise said:
Those are your words not mine. And as for all the other moments of brilliance by other players, I think they get plenty of credit for it. After all none of those players get the shit Dzeko gets (except for Mario who's no longer here). And there in lies the issue.

When a player gets booed even after scoring a game winning goal (Crystal Palace game), you know there is a problem. Don't try to put this on those who actually like Dzeko for what he's done for this club. We are not the issue.

I was at the game, Dzeko wasn't booed for scoring the winning goal. Keep clutching.
I don't remember saying that.

Tell you what buddy, seeing as you are using this booing thing as a stick to beat City fans with, why don't you go and find me a video of City fans booing Edin Dzeko ay any point during the Crystal Palace game. I'll be waiting.
 
noise said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
noise said:
Those are your words not mine. And as for all the other moments of brilliance by other players, I think they get plenty of credit for it. After all none of those players get the shit Dzeko gets (except for Mario who's no longer here). And there in lies the issue.

When a player gets booed even after scoring a game winning goal (Crystal Palace game), you know there is a problem. Don't try to put this on those who actually like Dzeko for what he's done for this club. We are not the issue.

I was at the game, Dzeko wasn't booed for scoring the winning goal. Keep clutching.
I don't remember saying that.
No, you said he was booed despite scoring the winning goal, that is also completely untrue as I too was at the game.
 
I'm a season ticket holder and can honestly say I've never heard edin dzeko booed in his time at city. In recent seasons, the only players can remember being booed is Kolarov last season after an incident with the south stand.

I'd actually say Dzeko is well supported by the fans - one of only 5-6 players the fans have songs for.
 
Baka Sliskovic said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Baka Sliskovic said:
SPORT1 is biggest broadcaster. It is equal for yours SKY SPORTS. It was weeks in all biggest germans newspapers that Bayern is going for Dzeko. City had blocked that deal. Why did I use this example. Because wanted €30 million and saying that nobody wants the player are two completely different things. It is extremely harsh ( better not use other word ) that say that Dzeko was/is not wanted player. 10-15 mil for such expirenced and good player in small money for many great clubs. Also Telegraph news of Pellegrinis block for Arsenal/Dzeko move. Was publicly said by Pellegrini.
There is no possible way City asked for €30m for Dzeko. They wanted van Persie and would have snatched Bayern's hands off for £20m.

It is very realistic chance that van Persie had used Manchester City as a bait.
You never know with transfers but I can assure you that RvP was lined up by City 6 months before the window. The personal terms were all sorted and it just had to wait until the summer. However they were told by the owners that someone had to go and it was either to be Edin or Mario. As it turned out, neither wanted to go (Mario to PSG and Edin to Bayern) so the deal fell through. RvP was a bit pissed off as he's burnt his bridges at Arsenal & Ferguson put pressure on the Glazers, who didn't want to spend that money on an injury prone 29 year old, to sign him.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Baka Sliskovic said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
There is no possible way City asked for €30m for Dzeko. They wanted van Persie and would have snatched Bayern's hands off for £20m.

It is very realistic chance that van Persie had used Manchester City as a bait.
You never know with transfers but I can assure you that RvP was lined up by City 6 months before the window. The personal terms were all sorted and it just had to wait until the summer. However they were told by the owners that someone had to go and it was either to be Edin or Mario. As it turned out, neither wanted to go (Mario to PSG and Edin to Bayern) so the deal fell through. RvP was a bit pissed off as he's burnt his bridges at Arsenal & Ferguson put pressure on the Glazers, who didn't want to spend that money on an injury prone 29 year old, to sign him.

I can agree with you. You of course should have better info than me. But I still think my version have a lot true in it. All biggest german newspapers were writing weeks about Dzeko, Martinez and co.. They are almost every time correct. Especially at Bayern transfer targets. It was repectable newspapers who have great info about FC Hollywood ( Bayern). Why am i almost certain. Ask yourself if you where van Persie. Why should he chose much harder way. And at that time United was certainly not smaller club than City, to say the least.
Money was similar. You must know that 95% + players in that circumstances would chose United. If they have one less WC player ( Tevez ) to compete with. And could you really say Dzeko did not want to go to Bayern. When german media was writing that personal terms ( which of course could not be 100 % true, before Club or a Player confirm it ) with Dzeko were agreed ??
I am very interested to know what do you think of Dzeko - Mata swap. As for Arsenal i know you would tell. Why should we strenghten a rival.
 
Here's an idea Jasmin, you go find me a credible source. Because if Edin or anyone could hear it around the stadium, then it must have been audible for television. Or how about this, you go find me any other credible source that havereported it outside of this forum, literally just one credible source is all I'm asking for. If Edin was booed then you can guarantee it will have been jumped on by the media, so I'll be waiting.
 
JasminBosnia said:
Matty said:
noise said:
I don't remember saying that.
No, you said he was booed despite scoring the winning goal, that is also completely untrue as I too was at the game.

OK, You all read this thread, but quickly before it is gone. http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=295601

If it's all the same with you I'll take my own word over the words of the guy who started that thread, a guy whose IP address is in Bangalore so clearly is never actually in the stadium to hear anything. No-one boos Dzeko, it simply doesn't happen. People may make exasperated noises when he miscontrols the ball, or gives it away, along the lines of "oh for fucks sake Dzeko" but booing? No, sorry, doesn't happen.
 
Puppet Master Silva said:
Here's an idea Jasmin, you go find me a credible source. Because if Edin or anyone could hear it around the stadium, then it must have been audible for television. Or how about this, you go find me any other credible source that havereported it outside of this forum, literally just one credible source is all I'm asking for. If Edin was booed then you can guarantee it will have been jumped on by the media, so I'll be waiting.

By now, most people here can understand (some) Bosnians' obsession with Dzeko, regardless of how sick it is. National hero etc.., we've been through that. I can not understand your moronic (no offense) obsession with Dzeko and this thread, and the propensity to speak about your self as 'we' (as in 'We the King, or 'We/us City Fans'), when it's clear that Baka and others are addressing you. So pls stop using 'Us City Fans' (and hiding) and start your sentences with I, Puppet, or whatever your name is, as it will add some credibility to your posts.
 
Matty said:
JasminBosnia said:
Matty said:
No, you said he was booed despite scoring the winning goal, that is also completely untrue as I too was at the game.

OK, You all read this thread, but quickly before it is gone. http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=295601

If it's all the same with you I'll take my own word over the words of the guy who started that thread, a guy whose IP address is in Bangalore so clearly is never actually in the stadium to hear anything. No-one boos Dzeko, it simply doesn't happen. People may make exasperated noises when he miscontrols the ball, or gives it away, along the lines of "oh for fucks sake Dzeko" but booing? No, sorry, doesn't happen.

You really could not make it up. As I've been saying if I'm given a credible source I'll apologise.

However I think noise and the Bosnians owe us an apology for claiming such ridiculous things.

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LJ75 said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
Here's an idea Jasmin, you go find me a credible source. Because if Edin or anyone could hear it around the stadium, then it must have been audible for television. Or how about this, you go find me any other credible source that havereported it outside of this forum, literally just one credible source is all I'm asking for. If Edin was booed then you can guarantee it will have been jumped on by the media, so I'll be waiting.

By now, most people here can understand (some) Bosnians' obsession with Dzeko, regardless of how sick it is. National hero etc.., we've been through that. I can not understand your moronic (no offense) obsession with Dzeko and this thread, and the propensity to speak about your self as 'we' (as in 'We the King, or 'We/us City Fans'), when it's clear that Baka and others are addressing you. So pls stop using 'Us City Fans' (and hiding) and start your sentences with I, Puppet, or whatever your name is, as it will add some credibility to your posts.

I hate to burst your bubble (not really I get great satisfaction from it if I'm honest) but I haven't spoke on behalf of City fans once. As for my obsession with Dzeko go and check when I've last insulted him or questioned his ability, you'll be searching a while. :)

Oh, and hilariously in the post you've quoted I've used the phrases "I'll" "I'm" and "me", who the fuck could that be referring to?!?!?!
 
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