Edin Dzeko (continued)

[CitizenTID]

To be fair, Iv just let Dzeko get in the team on fifa for the xbox,,, I had quite a few injuries.

He had quite a good game, controlled it twice and only fell over 6 times.

I might use him again one day.

Settle a debate for us mate, put him on the transfer list and see what offers you get.

Maybe AC Milan will come in with a snivelling £3m bid.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

To be fair, Iv just let Dzeko get in the team on fifa for the xbox,,, I had quite a few injuries.

He had quite a good game, controlled it twice and only fell over 6 times.

I might use him again one day.

Settle a debate for us mate, put him on the transfer list and see what offers you get.

PMSL

Tried it,,,,,, Only offer was from Accrington Stanley, they offered a bottle of milk.

Full cream or semi-skimmed?

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Settle a debate for us mate, put him on the transfer list and see what offers you get.

PMSL

Tried it,,,,,, Only offer was from Accrington Stanley, they offered a bottle of milk.

Full cream or semi-skimmed?

And how many pints can we get?

 

[mancity5]

Settle a debate for us mate, put him on the transfer list and see what offers you get.

PMSL

Tried it,,,,,, Only offer was from Accrington Stanley, they offered a bottle of milk.

Full cream or semi-skimmed?

I would be lying if i said i knew mate.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

PMSL

Tried it,,,,,, Only offer was from Accrington Stanley, they offered a bottle of milk.

Full cream or semi-skimmed?

I would be lying if i said i knew mate.

I'm glad you're not in charge of our transfers if you're not even interested in the currency of the offers.

 

[JasminBosnia]

There was no booing yesterday and no booing against palace. There may have been collective groans and moans but the players in question bring this on themselves.

Am in block 106, and definitely heard booing when Garcia came on against Palace. Not good.

 

[mancity5]

Full cream or semi-skimmed?

I would be lying if i said i knew mate.

I'm glad you're not in charge of our transfers if you're not even interested in the currency of the offers.

Gonna be honest with you now mate,, Iv not got an xbox......

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

I would be lying if i said i knew mate.

I'm glad you're not in charge of our transfers if you're not even interested in the currency of the offers.

Gonna be honest with you now mate,, Iv not got an xbox......

Fucks sake man, I was just about to ask if the home fans were booing all of the players and throwing sharp objects at them, seeing as we all apparently hate them.

 

[Damocles]

There was no booing yesterday and no booing against palace. There may have been collective groans and moans but the players in question bring this on themselves.

Am in block 106, and definitely heard booing when Garcia came on against Palace. Not good.

These Bosnians are still confused, bless them. This is what happens when you never actually attend a match.

Yes, one or two people out of a crowd of 47,000 might shout abuse at players. This is what the thread you linked to was referring to. This doesn't represent the crowd at large.

In my experience at the game and the experience of every other match goer on here, the crowd is overwhelming positive towards Dzeko by and large, and he is one of the few players who gets loving chants whether he is on the pitch or not.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

This is all I'm asking for in terms of proof about Dzeko being booed, here is an article that states Bendtner was booed by his own fans, go find me one about Dzeko.

<a class="postlink" href="http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/30/nicklas-bendtner-vows-to-fight-on-at-arsenal-4167150/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/30/nicklas-b ... l-4167150/</a>

 

[foetus]

There was no booing yesterday and no booing against palace. There may have been collective groans and moans but the players in question bring this on themselves.

Am in block 106, and definitely heard booing when Garcia came on against Palace. Not good.

Your only piece of evidence that Dzeko was booed is a poster saying he heard Garcia being booed????

 

[aguero93:20]

Am in block 106, and definitely heard booing when Garcia came on against Palace. Not good.

Your only piece of evidence that Dzeko was booed is a poster saying he heard Garcia being booed????

and you're suprised?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Well tonight is a good opportunity for everyone to get behind Edin and the Team.

I posted at half-time from the Palace game about the boo boys being out in force but everyone remembers a different atmosphere a few weeks later.

 

[Anonymous]

Everyone is eltitled to their own opinion. That doesn't mean that everyone's opinion is correct, or that it should be respected.

When someone uses phrases like "Negredo will never be fast player with great workrate" when Negredo is both fast AND has great workrate, or when they say things like "Put him in Tottenham team. He would not be much better than Soldado was/is" when Spurs were clearly crying out for a Negredo style player when AVB was playing Soldado up top on his own (and asking him to do all the things that come naturally to Negredo) then I have to conclude that everything thay say about this matter is wrong, and that they don't really understand what they're talking about.

There are some "things" which I just can not agree with.
1) In first 5 games Negredos workrate was briliant. He even closed/was chasing 4 out of 5 defenders. His workrate in last 5 games was much worse. He did not run as much, he was preserving his energy. He was chasing/closing down 1 out of 5 defenders. If anyone try to forget on his briliant workrate of first games, and actually try to concentrate in his last games would see the diference. ( he does not run that much ).
2) Negredo is not fast player. He is heavy striker. He will never be fast as for example are: Aguero, Suarez, Sturridge, anywhere near that. He is more similar to Dzeko. They have occasional speed bursts. I have seen a lot of chances this year where Narsi, Navas, Silva was up front and waiting Dzeko AND/OR Negredo to come to the box. Especialy when they have to run from defending a corner to opposite side box. Aguero was up there with SIlva, Nasri and Navas waiting for Dzeko,Negredo.
3) As for Tottenham it is true. Soldado with Silva and Navas support would probably score more goals. Negredo without SIlva and Navas would score far less in this team.
4) You have also said something like Dzeko had 10 starts, Negredo 9 Away. It is not true.
PL AWAY GAMES ( Dzeko 5 starts , 411 min. 2 goals; Negredo 7 starts . 555 min, 1 goal ). HOME + AWAY PL GAMES Negredo had played 450 PL min +. And will play much more in second part of the season. Dzeko with that extra 450 min would score somethinig similar to that Negredos extra 4 PL goals. And would contributed in other ways of course. I agree football is not just about scoring, even beeing a striker. Two ( Newcastle, Blackburn ) out of three Negredos away goals were assisted by Dzeko. So Dzeko does not ONLY score goals, does he.
5) I just think you dont see Dzeko as great player just a solid one. Which is a normal thing. Every person have theirs preferenced players. Some like tall strikers, some smaller but quicker. But on other hand. You seems to glorify everything manager does ( ok not everything but 95% ) and think Negredo is better player than he really is. Why was Bayern for instance going for Dzeko and not Negredo ? Why Barcelona, Real M. or Atletico M. were not going for Negredo. Believe me if he would be striker without almost any flaws like Suarez, Aguero, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, Falcao, Lewandowski and others are. They would bought him long time ago. Like they are going after all this mentioned players. So I ask you. What do you think what are flaws in Negredos games that he was not bought by this clubs. Or why he did not succeed at Real M. Almost every player have his flaws. But on this forum it seems like Negredo is without one.

As for Dzeko beeing booed or not, I could not care less. People are runnig of real issues just to write about not important booing. He is professional footballer and he should deal with it. I think he is much much more hurt because of his status in this team. Of course IF he was booed he can tell fans to shut up. But his main frustration is for not playing enough. He would not lose any sleep for being booed. Maybe he will react more angry to it. So he can threw his main frustration ( not playing ) out of himself.

 

[aguero93:20]

Everyone is eltitled to their own opinion. That doesn't mean that everyone's opinion is correct, or that it should be respected.

When someone uses phrases like "Negredo will never be fast player with great workrate" when Negredo is both fast AND has great workrate, or when they say things like "Put him in Tottenham team. He would not be much better than Soldado was/is" when Spurs were clearly crying out for a Negredo style player when AVB was playing Soldado up top on his own (and asking him to do all the things that come naturally to Negredo) then I have to conclude that everything thay say about this matter is wrong, and that they don't really understand what they're talking about.

There are some "things" which I just can not agree with.
1) In first 5 games Negredos workrate was briliant. He even closed/was chasing 4 out of 5 defenders. His workrate in last 5 games was much worse. He did not run as much, he was preserving his energy. He was chasing/closing down 1 out of 5 defenders. If anyone try to forget on his briliant workrate of first games, and actually try to concentrate in his last games would see the diference. ( he does not run that much ).
2) Negredo is not fast player. He is heavy striker. He will never be fast as for example are: Aguero, Suarez, Sturridge, anywhere near that. He is more similar to Dzeko. They have occasional speed bursts. I have seen a lot of chances this year where Narsi, Navas, Silva was up front and waiting Dzeko AND/OR Negredo to come to the box. Especialy when they have to run from defending a corner to opposite side box. Aguero was up there with SIlva, Nasri and Navas waiting for Dzeko,Negredo.
3) As for Tottenham it is true. Soldado with Silva and Navas support would probably score more goals. Negredo without SIlva and Navas would score far less in this team.
4) You have also said something like Dzeko had 10 starts, Negredo 9 Away. It is not true.
PL AWAY GAMES ( Dzeko 5 starts , 411 min. 2 goals; Negredo 7 starts . 555 min, 1 goal ). HOME + AWAY PL GAMES Negredo had played 450 PL min +. And will play much more in second part of the season. Dzeko with that extra 450 min would score somethinig similar to that Negredos extra 4 PL goals. And would contributed in other ways of course. I agree football is not just about scoring, even beeing a striker. Two ( Newcastle, Blackburn ) out of three Negredos away goals were assisted by Dzeko. So Dzeko does not ONLY score goals, does he.
5) I just think you dont see Dzeko as great player just a solid one. Which is a normal thing. Every person have theirs preferenced players. Some like tall strikers, some smaller but quicker. But on other hand. You seems to glorify everything manager does ( ok not everything but 95% ) and think Negredo is better player than he really is. Why was Bayern for instance going for Dzeko and not Negredo ? Why Barcelona, Real M. or Atletico M. were not going for Negredo. Believe me if he would be striker without almost any flaws like Suarez, Aguero, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, Falcao, Lewandowski and others are. They would bought him long time ago. Like they are going after all this mentioned players. So I ask you. What do you think what are flaws in Negredos games that he was not bought by this clubs. Or why he did not succeed at Real M. Almost every player have his flaws. But on this forum it seems like Negredo is without one.

As for Dzeko beeing booed or not, I could not care less. People are runnig of real issues just to write about not important booing. He is professional footballer and he should deal with it. I think he is much much more hurt because of his status in this team. Of course IF he was booed he can tell fans to shut up. But his main frustration is for not playing enough. He would not lose any sleep for being booed. Maybe he will react more angry to it. So he can threw his main frustration ( not playing ) out of himself.

Bayern don't scout much in spain and he was behind cult heroes raul and van nistelrooy at madrid

 

[Anonymous]

Bayern don't scout much in spain and he was behind cult heroes raul and van nistelrooy at madrid

Of course they dont. That is why they bought that year Martinez. But first wish was Dzeko. Also Negredo at Real Madris is not so important. He was young. Those things happen. The problem is that you. And you seems to me as a person who knows a lot about football. Much more than majority. Ok answer me this question. What are flaws of Pellegrini or Negredo as a player. Ok Bayern did not scout Negredo. What were Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid waiting 28 years for. What are his flaws. As for Pellegrini he had chosed to make 2 inform strikers instead of 3 infrom strikers. It is simple as that. Two main strikers gain consistency because of playing that much. But in process you fucked up the third striker. This way would be great if Dzeko was young, old or limited/not wanted striker which he is not. Who will glady take every chance and give his max., knowing he can not make his status better. Of course Yayas contribution this year is great. But it can stop. It is better to rely on PL proven striker ( Dzeko ) to score goals than DM ( Yaya).

 

[aguero93:20]

Of course they dont. That is why they bought that year Martinez. But first wish was Dzeko. Also Negredo at Real Madris is not so important. He was young. Those things happen. The problem is that you. And you seems to me as a person who knows a lot about football. Much more than majority. Ok answer me this question. What are flaws of Pellegrini or Negredo as a player. Ok Bayern did not scout Negredo. What were Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid waiting 28 years for. What are his flaws. As for Pellegrini he had chosed to make 2 inform strikers instead of 3 infrom strikers. It is simple as that. Two main strikers gain consistency because of playing that much. But in process you fucked up the third striker. This way would be great if Dzeko was young, old or limited/not wanted striker which he is not. Who will glady take every chance and give his max., knowing he can not make his status better. Of course Yayas contribution this year is great. But it can stop. It is better to rely on PL proven striker ( Dzeko ) to score goals than DM ( Yaya).

Don't you mean senior strikers, or good strikers? Negredo's faults? Not so good with his weaker foot and not as quick as a smaller player would be. doesn't really show that much though, cause he can use both sides of his strong foot and doesn't need the pace to burn defenders like a suarez or aguero as he can simply outmuscle them as long as he stays level. As for Martinez, he made it to a Europa league final with bilbao and won a big profile match v the scum, didn't need much scouting to spot him, as well send scouts to watch marchisio or de rossi. your turn, so you even see all of Dzeko's faults? seems to me it's always the managers fault.

 

[Anonymous]

Don't you mean senior strikers, or good strikers? Negredo's faults? Not so good with his weaker foot and not as quick as a smaller player would be. doesn't really show that much though, cause he can use both sides of his strong foot and doesn't need the pace to burn defenders like a suarez or aguero as he can simply outmuscle them as long as he stays level. As for Martinez, he made it to a Europa league final with bilbao and won a big profile match v the scum, didn't need much scouting to spot him, as well send scouts to watch marchisio or de rossi. your turn, so you even see all of Dzeko's faults? seems to me it's always the managers fault.

You see I fully agree with you on Negredo. I see him the same way. As for Pellegrini. He had chosed to create 2 inform strikers instead of 3 inform strikers. You can not have it both ways. He had this idea in his mind from the start. He did not give Dzeko less games because he was poor. We all know he was very good in majority of games. He had just waited for Dzekos first mistake ( which would come anyway ), to utilise his 2 main strikers plan. Dzeko really had only one small chance. And that was not to be good. He should be briliant in every game he played. To be instead of Negredo. But Dzeko beeing a CF who is too dependable on supply/others ( like Negredo is, and Aguero is not ) had made things much tougher for Dzeko. He needed to be in great form + he needed good supply from others to have a chance of scoring a goals. And we all know when Dzeko scores. His game becomes better allround.

It should not be that way. Pellegrini could easily have three inform strikers firing on all cylinders. If he chosed to give Dzeko more PL games and true support.

 

[aguero93:20]

Don't you mean senior strikers, or good strikers? Negredo's faults? Not so good with his weaker foot and not as quick as a smaller player would be. doesn't really show that much though, cause he can use both sides of his strong foot and doesn't need the pace to burn defenders like a suarez or aguero as he can simply outmuscle them as long as he stays level. As for Martinez, he made it to a Europa league final with bilbao and won a big profile match v the scum, didn't need much scouting to spot him, as well send scouts to watch marchisio or de rossi. your turn, so you even see all of Dzeko's faults? seems to me it's always the managers fault.

You see I fully agree with you on Negredo. I see him the same way. As for Pellegrini. He had chosed to create 2 inform strikers instead of 3 inform strikers. You can not have it both ways. He had this idea in his mind from the start. He did not give Dzeko less games because he was poor. We all know he was very good in majority of games. He had just waited for Dzekos first mistake ( which would come anyway ), to utilise his 2 main strikers plan. Dzeko really had only one small chance. And that was not to be good. He should be briliant in every game he played. To be instead of Negredo. But Dzeko beeing a CF who is too dependable on supply/others ( like Negredo is, and Aguero is not ) had made things much tougher for Dzeko. He needed to be in great form + he needed good supply from others to have a chance of doing anything.

It should not be that way. Pellegrini could easily have three inform strikers firing on all cylinders. If he chosed to give Dzeko more PL games and true support.

clarify this for me please, negredo seems to spend more time as a no. 10 than aguero or dzeko imo.
We are on track to play c.60 games this season so game time wont be an issue for any of our strikers, it's not like dzeko isn't getting a fair amount of game time.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

He's gonna score tonight. I'm confident.


P.S I'm not Bosnian.