Edin Dzeko (contract update page 370)

Re: Edin Dzeko

noise said:
pudge said:
Lewandowski has a 150 minutes per goal ratio. While Dzeko has a 135 (or 136) minutes per goal (same in Wolfsburg as in City).
Wrong
pretty sure I provided sources o.0
Pretty sure I;

A) Provided an explanation as to why the sources were incorrect in the context you provided them
B) Provided a source myself that actually shows playing time, allowing you to work it out for yourself

Again, you fail to address the post and merely quote and respond to what you like. As 'Puppet Master Silva' has acknowledged as well, you're rather sore to be proven wrong.

You ignored the poignant part of my post. That it IS wrong to belittle just how much Dzeko has done for City,however, it is also wrong to lie about his contribution in an attempt to promote him, especially above others. If you've been falsely informed and/or are mistaken, it's rather beneficial to admit it rather than ignore it.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
pretty sure I provided sources o.0
Pretty sure I;

A) Provided an explanation as to why the sources were incorrect in the context you provided them
B) Provided a source myself that actually shows playing time, allowing you to work it out for yourself

Again, you fail to address the post and merely quote and respond to what you like. As 'Puppet Master Silva' has acknowledged as well, you're rather sore to be proven wrong.
I am not convinced that my sources are wrong. I agree however that the result can be different depending on how you look at it, but at the same time many sources including SkySports have reported Dzeko's 135/136 minutes per goal.. so again I am not convinced that my sources are wrong.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
pretty sure I provided sources o.0
Pretty sure I;

A) Provided an explanation as to why the sources were incorrect in the context you provided them
B) Provided a source myself that actually shows playing time, allowing you to work it out for yourself

Again, you fail to address the post and merely quote and respond to what you like. As 'Puppet Master Silva' has acknowledged as well, you're rather sore to be proven wrong.
I am not convinced that my sources are wrong. I agree however that the result can be different depending on how you look at it, but at the same time many sources including SkySports have reported Dzeko's 135/136 minutes per goal.. so again I am not convinced that my sources are wrong.
That's his league record, since he signed, as has been established through your own source.

Your link to Lewandowski's was across all competitions only last season.

It is the definition of "wrong" in the context you attempted to use them in.

I would urge you to read the edit in my previous post.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Pretty sure I;

A) Provided an explanation as to why the sources were incorrect in the context you provided them
B) Provided a source myself that actually shows playing time, allowing you to work it out for yourself

Again, you fail to address the post and merely quote and respond to what you like. As 'Puppet Master Silva' has acknowledged as well, you're rather sore to be proven wrong.
I am not convinced that my sources are wrong. I agree however that the result can be different depending on how you look at it, but at the same time many sources including SkySports have reported Dzeko's 135/136 minutes per goal.. so again I am not convinced that my sources are wrong.
That's his league record, since he signed, as has been established through your own source.

Your link to Lewandowski's was across all competitions only last season.

It is the definition of "wrong" in the context you attempted to use them in.

I would urge you to read the edit in my previous post.
Here are Lewandowski's goals per 90 minutes in the league, which really aren't that special compared to other strikers in the league (last season).

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leaderboard-bundesliga-goal-scorers#.U-0GOYBdXt4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leade ... -0GOYBdXt4</a>

Another corroboration (by BBC's MOTD) of my source (fairly recent):

<a class="postlink" href="http://imgur.com/I8dvTv8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://imgur.com/I8dvTv8</a>
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
I am not convinced that my sources are wrong. I agree however that the result can be different depending on how you look at it, but at the same time many sources including SkySports have reported Dzeko's 135/136 minutes per goal.. so again I am not convinced that my sources are wrong.
That's his league record, since he signed, as has been established through your own source.

Your link to Lewandowski's was across all competitions only last season.

It is the definition of "wrong" in the context you attempted to use them in.

I would urge you to read the edit in my previous post.
Here are Lewandowski's goals per 90 minutes in the league, which really aren't that special compared to other strikers in the league (last season).

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leaderboard-bundesliga-goal-scorers#.U-0GOYBdXt4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leade ... -0GOYBdXt4</a>

Another corroboration (by BBC's MOTD) of my source (fairly recent):

<a class="postlink" href="http://imgur.com/I8dvTv8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://imgur.com/I8dvTv8</a>
You posted that Lewnadowski had an average of 150 minutes per goal at Dortmund as opposed to Dzeko's 136 at City, that's incorrect. There is no debating it; you're simply wrong.

I have already said that your stat of Edin's goals per minute is solely in the league since he has signed; that's a fact.

However, you then posted Lewandowski's goals per minute across all competitions in one year. Do you see the difference?

You're using one competition to measure Edin's, disregarding the Champions League, Capital One Cup and FA Cup.

BUT you are including the Champions League, Bundesliga, DFB- Pokal and what ever other domestic competitions there are in Germany, and only for one season.

That's why you're wrong. You really do have a problem, noise.

The number's I produced;

Lewandowski; 1 goal per 139 minutes (Dortmund)
Dzeko; 1 goal per 144 minutes (City)
Dzeko; 1 goal per 143 minutes (Wolfsburg)

Are across every competition during their time at the respective clubs.

BUT AGAIN, the initial post regarding Lewandowski was NOT an attempt from the poster to claim one was better than the other so the comparison are irrelevant. HOWEVER, if you insist on posting such stats as you did, get it right; you haven't.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
That's his league record, since he signed, as has been established through your own source.

Your link to Lewandowski's was across all competitions only last season.

It is the definition of "wrong" in the context you attempted to use them in.

I would urge you to read the edit in my previous post.
Here are Lewandowski's goals per 90 minutes in the league, which really aren't that special compared to other strikers in the league (last season).

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leaderboard-bundesliga-goal-scorers#.U-0GOYBdXt4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leade ... -0GOYBdXt4</a>

Another corroboration (by BBC's MOTD) of my source (fairly recent):

<a class="postlink" href="http://imgur.com/I8dvTv8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://imgur.com/I8dvTv8</a>
You posted that Lewnadowski had an average of 150 minutes per goal at Dortmund as opposed to Dzeko's 136 at City, that's incorrect. There is no debating it; you're simply wrong.

I have already said that your stat of Edin's goals per minute is solely in the league since he has signed; that's a fact.

However, you then posted Lewandowski's goals per minute across all competitions in one year. Do you see the difference?

You're using one competition to measure Edin's, disregarding the Champions League, Capital One Cup and FA Cup.

BUT you are including the Champions League, Bundesliga, DFB- Pokal and what ever other domestic competitions there are in Germany, and only for one season.

That's why you're wrong. You really do have a problem, noise.

The number's I produced;

Lewandowski; 1 goal per 139 minutes (Dortmund)
Dzeko; 1 goal per 144 minutes (City)
Dzeko; 1 goal per 143 minutes (Wolfsburg)

Are across every competition during their time at the respective clubs.

BUT AGAIN, the initial post regarding Lewandowski was NOT an attempt from the poster to claim one was better than the other so the comparison are irrelevant. HOWEVER, if you insist on posting such stats as you did, get it right; you haven't.

You`re wasting your time,pudge,with these fucking fan-boys.As a Mod said previously why don`t they all just piss off.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

oakiecokie said:
You`re wasting your time,pudge,with these fucking fan-boys.As a Mod said previously why don`t they all just piss off.
Sadly you're right, oakie.

I'm not even bashing Edin, as it will no doubt be viewed as, as I've presented to noise there's just been numerous incorrect statements attempting to promote Dzeko. I'm not trying to belittle his contribution but rather point out that some are trying to embellish it falsely; which is equally as wrong and the problem 2 mods have previously highlighted.

However, it seems he's incapable of acknowledging his mistakes. Ah, to be mod for one day...
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

pudge said:
oakiecokie said:
You`re wasting your time,pudge,with these fucking fan-boys.As a Mod said previously why don`t they all just piss off.
Sadly you're right, oakie.

I'm not even bashing Edin, as it will no doubt be viewed as, as I've presented to noise there's just been numerous incorrect statements attempting to promote Dzeko. I'm not trying to belittle his contribution but rather point out that some are trying to embellish it falsely; which is equally as wrong and the problem 2 mods have previously highlighted.

However, it seems he's incapable of acknowledging his mistakes. Ah, to be mod for one day...
I provided sources o.0
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

oakiecokie said:
pudge said:
noise said:
Here are Lewandowski's goals per 90 minutes in the league, which really aren't that special compared to other strikers in the league (last season).

<a class="postlink" href="https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leaderboard-bundesliga-goal-scorers#.U-0GOYBdXt4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.bsports.com/extratime/leade ... -0GOYBdXt4</a>

Another corroboration (by BBC's MOTD) of my source (fairly recent):

<a class="postlink" href="http://imgur.com/I8dvTv8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://imgur.com/I8dvTv8</a>
You posted that Lewnadowski had an average of 150 minutes per goal at Dortmund as opposed to Dzeko's 136 at City, that's incorrect. There is no debating it; you're simply wrong.

I have already said that your stat of Edin's goals per minute is solely in the league since he has signed; that's a fact.

However, you then posted Lewandowski's goals per minute across all competitions in one year. Do you see the difference?

You're using one competition to measure Edin's, disregarding the Champions League, Capital One Cup and FA Cup.

BUT you are including the Champions League, Bundesliga, DFB- Pokal and what ever other domestic competitions there are in Germany, and only for one season.

That's why you're wrong. You really do have a problem, noise.

The number's I produced;

Lewandowski; 1 goal per 139 minutes (Dortmund)
Dzeko; 1 goal per 144 minutes (City)
Dzeko; 1 goal per 143 minutes (Wolfsburg)

Are across every competition during their time at the respective clubs.

BUT AGAIN, the initial post regarding Lewandowski was NOT an attempt from the poster to claim one was better than the other so the comparison are irrelevant. HOWEVER, if you insist on posting such stats as you did, get it right; you haven't.

You`re wasting your time,pudge,with these fucking fan-boys.As a Mod said previously why don`t they all just piss off.
Here is an idea, if Dzeko discussion annoys you why don't you (the way you put it) piss of from his thread?
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

noise said:
pudge said:
oakiecokie said:
You`re wasting your time,pudge,with these fucking fan-boys.As a Mod said previously why don`t they all just piss off.
Sadly you're right, oakie.

I'm not even bashing Edin, as it will no doubt be viewed as, as I've presented to noise there's just been numerous incorrect statements attempting to promote Dzeko. I'm not trying to belittle his contribution but rather point out that some are trying to embellish it falsely; which is equally as wrong and the problem 2 mods have previously highlighted.

However, it seems he's incapable of acknowledging his mistakes. Ah, to be mod for one day...
I provided sources o.0
Again noise, you're missing the point.

The context as to which you used your sources are wrong. If you cannot see that it's very strange.

It would be linking the League's top scorer list and saying Suarez had scored 31 and then providing a second link to the Champions League top scorers with Ronaldo on 17 and saying;

"Suarez > Ronaldo"

Also, you can't claim what you're doing as "Dzeko discussion" as your side of the "discussion" is predicated on misinformation.
 

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