Edin Dzeko (contract update page 370)

Re: Edin Dzeko

pudge said:
oakiecokie said:
You`re wasting your time,pudge,with these fucking fan-boys.As a Mod said previously why don`t they all just piss off.
Sadly you're right, oakie.

I'm not even bashing Edin, as it will no doubt be viewed as, as I've presented to noise there's just been numerous incorrect statements attempting to promote Dzeko. I'm not trying to belittle his contribution but rather point out that some are trying to embellish it falsely; which is equally as wrong and the problem 2 mods have previously highlighted.

However, it seems he's incapable of acknowledging his mistakes. Ah, to be mod for one day...
I'm afraid Nause is the Balkan equivalent of Tevez City mate.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Sadly you're right, oakie.

I'm not even bashing Edin, as it will no doubt be viewed as, as I've presented to noise there's just been numerous incorrect statements attempting to promote Dzeko. I'm not trying to belittle his contribution but rather point out that some are trying to embellish it falsely; which is equally as wrong and the problem 2 mods have previously highlighted.

However, it seems he's incapable of acknowledging his mistakes. Ah, to be mod for one day...
I provided sources o.0
Again noise, you're missing the point.

The context as to which you used your sources are wrong. If you cannot see that it's very strange.

It would be linking the League's top scorer list and saying Suarez had scored 31 and then providing a second link to the Champions League top scorers with Ronaldo on 17 and saying;

"Suarez > Ronaldo"
My sources might be wrong but it is entirely possible that your source is wrong, which is exactly my point. But you called me wrong, and I merely cited sources.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
I provided sources o.0
Again noise, you're missing the point.

The context as to which you used your sources are wrong. If you cannot see that it's very strange.

It would be linking the League's top scorer list and saying Suarez had scored 31 and then providing a second link to the Champions League top scorers with Ronaldo on 17 and saying;

"Suarez > Ronaldo"
My sources might be wrong but it is entirely possible that your source is wrong, which is exactly my point. But you called me wrong, and I merely cited sources.
Again, the sources you cited aren't relevant to each other.

If you wish to go down the straw man defence, fair enough.

You took a source that showed Dzeko's league average for minutes per goal since he's been at City, and another source that showed Lewandowski's average for minutes per goal in all competitions for one season and passed it off as career averages in an attempt to falsely promote Dzeko, that's nothing to do with your sources, that's on you.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Again noise, you're missing the point.

The context as to which you used your sources are wrong. If you cannot see that it's very strange.

It would be linking the League's top scorer list and saying Suarez had scored 31 and then providing a second link to the Champions League top scorers with Ronaldo on 17 and saying;

"Suarez > Ronaldo"
My sources might be wrong but it is entirely possible that your source is wrong, which is exactly my point. But you called me wrong, and I merely cited sources.
Again, the sources you cited aren't relevant to each other.

If you wish to go down the straw man defence, fair enough.
I can only do best effort. I don't make the sources, I just find them. But they do contradict your 144 Dzeko figure.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

noise said:
pudge said:
noise said:
My sources might be wrong but it is entirely possible that your source is wrong, which is exactly my point. But you called me wrong, and I merely cited sources.
Again, the sources you cited aren't relevant to each other.

If you wish to go down the straw man defence, fair enough.
I can only do best effort. I don't make the sources, I just find them. But they do contradict your 144 Dzeko figure.
See my edit.

They do not contradict my numbers at all.

Nice broken English though, must be that heritage of yours shining through..
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

pudge said:
noise said:
pudge said:
Again, the sources you cited aren't relevant to each other.

If you wish to go down the straw man defence, fair enough.
I can only do best effort. I don't make the sources, I just find them. But they do contradict your 144 Dzeko figure.
See my edit.

They do not contradict my numbers at all.
I am glad we're in agreement then.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

noise said:
oakiecokie said:
pudge said:
You posted that Lewnadowski had an average of 150 minutes per goal at Dortmund as opposed to Dzeko's 136 at City, that's incorrect. There is no debating it; you're simply wrong.

I have already said that your stat of Edin's goals per minute is solely in the league since he has signed; that's a fact.

However, you then posted Lewandowski's goals per minute across all competitions in one year. Do you see the difference?

You're using one competition to measure Edin's, disregarding the Champions League, Capital One Cup and FA Cup.

BUT you are including the Champions League, Bundesliga, DFB- Pokal and what ever other domestic competitions there are in Germany, and only for one season.

That's why you're wrong. You really do have a problem, noise.

The number's I produced;

Lewandowski; 1 goal per 139 minutes (Dortmund)
Dzeko; 1 goal per 144 minutes (City)
Dzeko; 1 goal per 143 minutes (Wolfsburg)

Are across every competition during their time at the respective clubs.

BUT AGAIN, the initial post regarding Lewandowski was NOT an attempt from the poster to claim one was better than the other so the comparison are irrelevant. HOWEVER, if you insist on posting such stats as you did, get it right; you haven't.

You`re wasting your time,pudge,with these fucking fan-boys.As a Mod said previously why don`t they all just piss off.
Here is an idea, if Dzeko discussion annoys you why don't you (the way you put it) piss of from his thread?

The thread doesn`t annoy me one little bit.neither does Edin Dzeko.
You on the other hand ...
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

Ducado said:
For goodness sake, can we give it a fucking rest please, not a ball kicked in anger and your at it like cats in a sack

Enough! Move on
Fantastic, well done.

Precedent set then, might as well update the CoC.
 
Re: Edin Dzeko

Puppet Master Silva said:
noise, I've seen Pudge prove you to be outright lying and wrong a few times, and every time he does it you have no response or even an admission of the fact that you are exactly that, wrong. There shouldn't even be a debate ongoing over who is better between Dzeko and Lewandowski, because it's not important and everyone who's ever watched football knows it's Lewan.

You say that there are "Dzeko doubters" or Dzeko haters" depending on your frame of mind, but what you fail to actually see is that unlike you, a lot of us are impartial City fans discussing our forward. You're obsessed with Dzeko and can't stand any criticism of him or people saying there are better strikers out there. Maybe you should join a Bosnian forum where you can all rejoice and tell each other how great he is and how if he played for Barca he'd score as many as Messi? We'll continue to discuss him here and whilst we know he's a world class forward, we also know he has faults that it's not too late to iron out of his game.

You have been saying the same thing for Bony. Your animosity towards Edin is simply unbelievable. You are praising other teams players just to put your own down. Instead of being ungrateful give the that man some respect. He deserves it. He won you the league for god sake.
 

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