Edin Dzeko

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city diehard said:
Superr said:
city diehard said:
He's simply not good enough. He's going in the summer. Happy days.

2012/13 STATS: MAN. CITY

PLAYER GOALS

Edin Dzeko 13
Sergio Agüero 11
Carlos Tevez 11

What you're troubling to comprehend is that 99% of fans which have some basic knowledge of the game (you not included) will rate both Aguero and tevez over Dzeko. Simply presenting factoids of which don't truly reflect the abilities of the said players is your way of satisfying your unorthodox way of thinking. Rickie 'fcukin' Lambert is ahead of all these players on 14 goals, so that must obviously mean...

Dzeko on the end of 13 assorted assists. Could and should have been the other side of twenty! Carlos hasn't scored as many 'cos he's setting up and Agueroooooooooo has been injured.
 
Dzeko scoring record all competitions since the age of 21:

08/09 48
09/10 50
10/11 36
11/12 38
12/13 32

And yet some people don't think he's a good striker. Give me f*ckin strength!!

The guy is there to score goals and he does that very well. Find me another striker that is prepared to be 3rd choice striker with that sort of record in the top leagues in the world and at international level.

This is another Jerome Boateng now plying his trade at the bundesliga champions and champs league finalists.

How about a bit of support so that he can show us what he is truly made of. If an out of form Dzeko can scrore that number of goals it is frightening what an in form Dzeko could do.
 
Very disappointed with his celebration last night, he's been very well supported through some dour patches of form at City.

Not my type of player, one minute he'll bring a 70 yard ball down on his chest no problem, the next minute a 10 yard pass bounces 5 yards off him. He's scored some brilliant goals and at times looks like a world class finisher, but then he misses a chance like the one at Swansea. He's inconsistent to say the least and I prefer to know what you're going to get from a player week in week out.

The other problem Dzeko has is that when a striker of his type has a poor game he offers very little to the rest of the play, he's a goalscorer and solely a goalscorer, whereas Tevez and Aguero can drop back and create or harass opposition defenders, this means he has good games or howlers.
 
kenzie115 said:
Very disappointed with his celebration last night, he's been very well supported through some dour patches of form at City.

Not my type of player, one minute he'll bring a 70 yard ball down on his chest no problem, the next minute a 10 yard pass bounces 5 yards off him. He's scored some brilliant goals and at times looks like a world class finisher, but then he misses a chance like the one at Swansea. He's inconsistent to say the least and I prefer to know what you're going to get from a player week in week out.

The other problem Dzeko has is that when a striker of his type has a poor game he offers very little to the rest of the play, he's a goalscorer and solely a goalscorer, whereas Tevez and Aguero can drop back and create or harass opposition defenders, this means he has good games or howlers.

No doubt he did that as he knows there are muppets on here criticising him, no doubt sending abusive tweets or messages on fb. He is not immune to what is being written or said. Tbh I think it's disgraceful considering that without him we wouldn't have won the league last season.

I had to witness one of our own fans abusing Kolarov whilst warming up on Sat. With supporters like that who needs enemies.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
city diehard said:
Superr said:
2012/13 STATS: MAN. CITY

PLAYER GOALS

Edin Dzeko 13
Sergio Agüero 11
Carlos Tevez 11

What you're troubling to comprehend is that 99% of fans which have some basic knowledge of the game (you not included) will rate both Aguero and tevez over Dzeko. Simply presenting factoids of which don't truly reflect the abilities of the said players is your way of satisfying your unorthodox way of thinking. Rickie 'fcukin' Lambert is ahead of all these players on 14 goals, so that must obviously mean...

Dzeko on the end of 13 assorted assists. Could and should have been the other side of twenty! Carlos hasn't scored as many 'cos he's setting up and Agueroooooooooo has been injured.

I'm sure there are lots of excellent reasons you could give for Aguero scoring less league goals than Dzeko, but playing time isn't one of them. Despite his injuries he's still played about a game and a half more than Dzeko (and Tevez has played about 4.5 games more than Aguero).

In cup games (by contrast) Aguero has scored 5 in about 6.5 games (0.77 goals/game), whereas Tevez has scored 5 in just under 9 games (0.57 goals/game), and Dzeko has 1 in about 7 games (0.13 goals.game).
 
Blue Mooner said:
Dzeko scoring record all competitions since the age of 21:

08/09 48
09/10 50
10/11 36
11/12 38
12/13 32


And yet some people don't think he's a good striker. Give me f*ckin strength!!

The guy is there to score goals and he does that very well. Find me another striker that is prepared to be 3rd choice striker with that sort of record in the top leagues in the world and at international level.

This is another Jerome Boateng now plying his trade at the bundesliga champions and champs league finalists.

How about a bit of support so that he can show us what he is truly made of. If an out of form Dzeko can scrore that number of goals it is frightening what an in form Dzeko could do.
Where did you get these stats from?

<a class="postlink" href="http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/102337/edin-dzeko?cc=5739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/102337/edin-dzeko?cc=5739</a> Actually, from here?

gs = games started
 
kenzie115 said:
The other problem Dzeko has is that when a striker of his type has a poor game he offers very little to the rest of the play, he's a goalscorer and solely a goalscorer, whereas Tevez and Aguero can drop back and create or harass opposition defenders, this means he has good games or howlers.

Although it may look this way, the numbers don't bear that out. If you look at team goals scored when each striker is on the pitch, it turns out we score more goals with him playing than with either of the others. We also concede more when he's playing.

Team Goals per game (for/against); Dzeko (2.02/1.12), Tevez (1.90/0.92), Aguero (1.75/0.97)

You can come up with many different explanations for this, supporting lots of different arguments, but those are the figures. Your suggestion that Aguero and Tevez drop back more and harass opponents could explain why we concede fewer when they play (and we play a more possession-oriented game with them, which should also help our defence). And even though Dzeko may look like he's doing nothing (and maybe when he actually is doing nothing), his mere presence upfield might change the shape of opposition defences in a way that allows the rest of the team to score more goals.

However, remember that these are marginal effects, and the numbers are so close that we might just be explaining noise (statistical noise that is, not the Bluemoon poster...).
 
Joehannes said:
Blue Mooner said:
Dzeko scoring record all competitions since the age of 21:

08/09 42
09/10 31
10/11 19
11/12 22
12/13 24

And yet some people don't think he's a good striker. Give me f*ckin strength!!

The guy is there to score goals and he does that very well. Find me another striker that is prepared to be 3rd choice striker with that sort of record in the top leagues in the world and at international level.

This is another Jerome Boateng now plying his trade at the bundesliga champions and champs league finalists.

How about a bit of support so that he can show us what he is truly made of. If an out of form Dzeko can scrore that number of goals it is frightening what an in form Dzeko could do.
Where did you get these stats from?

<a class="postlink" href="http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/102337/edin-dzeko?cc=5739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/102337/edin-dzeko?cc=5739</a> Actually, from here?

gs = games started

Apologies, edited for accuracy, nevertheless my points still stand, 138 goals in 204 games, well over a goal every two games.
 
<a class="postlink" href="http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1440773/dzeko-open-manchester-city-exit?cc=5901" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/14407 ... it?cc=5901</a>

Edin Dzeko has refused to commit his future to Manchester City and admitted he is unsure where he will be playing next season.

The Bosnian striker is a reported target for Borussia Dortmund if Robert Lewandowski leaves the Champions League finalists and has grown frustrated at his inability to hold down a regular place in the City side.

“We will see,” the forward said when asked if he will be leaving the Etihad Stadium in the summer. “Everything is open.”

Dzeko, a £27 million signing from Wolfsburg in January 2011, was also non-committal when asked if he wants to stay

He is City’s top scorer in the Premier League this season but his 13 goals have come in only 15 starts and he is unsure if Tuesday’s goal in the 1-0 win against West Bromwich Albion will earn him a place in the team for Saturday’s FA Cup final against Wigan.

“I don’t know,” he added. “Everyone is hoping. Everyone wants to play.”

Dzeko has proved prolific as a replacement in the last two seasons and could be on the bench again at Wembley.

“That’s my job, to score goals, if I come on after 60 minutes or if I start,” he explained.
 
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