Edin Dzeko

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pominoz said:
mcfc_nyc said:
We became "fanatical" defenders of Edin only when we felt that over longer period of time he started to be unjustly and disproportionally singled out for failures/mistakes and labeled with names that no real City supporter should say about ANY player wearing Blue.

Every single player in our team has been criticised and we have fans from every country that we have players from, none of them carry on like you guys do when "their" player is criticised.
That is the problem.



Kun has not sorry.
 
AntiUnited said:
pominoz said:
mcfc_nyc said:
We became "fanatical" defenders of Edin only when we felt that over longer period of time he started to be unjustly and disproportionally singled out for failures/mistakes and labeled with names that no real City supporter should say about ANY player wearing Blue.

Every single player in our team has been criticised and we have fans from every country that we have players from, none of them carry on like you guys do when "their" player is criticised.
That is the problem.



Kun has not sorry.

Yes he has, he has not been anywhere near as good as he was last year and many posters have said so.
 
pominoz said:
AntiUnited said:
pominoz said:
Every single player in our team has been criticised and we have fans from every country that we have players from, none of them carry on like you guys do when "their" player is criticised.
That is the problem.



Kun has not sorry.

Yes he has, he has not been anywhere near as good as he was last year and many posters have said so.


Ofc he has been criticized but there usually one off comments in the match day forum, like ffs kun get new shooting shoes. nothing like the vitriol dzeko gets or any other play for that matter.
 
mcfc_nyc said:
jimharri said:
The main problem I have is that most of the Bosnians posting on here are only here because of Edin. If (when?) he goes, most of those posters will disappear as well. That, to me anyway, is not being a City fan. I support the club, not any individual within the club. Look at Mancio as an example; he was manic on here while Mario and Bob were at the club. Since they've gone, barely a peep out of him. Sorry, but I will never understand that mentality of following a player from club to club, simply because he comes from your country.

Guess what - you can't have it both ways. Sooner you accept us internationals there is less chance you will develop ulcer ;) Today it's the Bosnians, tomorrow could be some new fanatics following "asian Neymar" as someone joked...

Kidding aside, please hear me out…

No more stats, opinions etc. Lets just try to agree on some things, identify where the gap is in our understanding of each other and try to see if we can bridge this gap and make this forum better place…

FACT: City no longer belongs only to you local supporters and expats who grew up with it proudly wearing blue throughout all these hard years. It now belongs to whoever identifies with what this club is all about - resilience, persistence, determination, loyalty, hope, even humility…. That's why I fell in love with this club, I caught the bug. It's about knowing where this club was, where it's now and where it wants to be and I want to be part of this journey. If that will pass your litmus test of what City fan should be-great; if not, I don't give a shit, I am still blue.

But always keep in mind that primary reason for recent success of this club are the new owners… Don't forget that and be grateful that you have chairman and owners who deeply care about the history of the club and what it means to locals and community. At the end of the day it's all about money..

FACT: When I recently took my brother to see MCFC team for the first time at the Yankee stadium, I think we were outnumbered 1:10. Believe me 95% of those Chelsea fans were not from London. How is that possible? Even Mou noted today when he took team to US first time for pre-season not many knew about Chelsea. Today there is no day that passes that I don't see someone in Chelsea, Arsenal or scum kit around NYC.

Forgive me but what's wrong with these nomadic City fans anyways? You believe that right now there are no Argentinian fanboys around the world rooting for Barca only because of Messi or City because of Tevez / Kun ? We don't hear them here cuz they may be unaware of Bluemoon or possibly cuz their english skills may not be good enough for written discussion. Unfortunately, fking Balkan war dispersed hundreds of thousands of us around world forcing us to learn new languages as @LookIfoundmyKnob eloquently explained. Edin (and others on our NT team) is the only bright spot in otherwise grim picture of our country and it means a LOT to us for them to succeed.

We became "fanatical" defenders of Edin only when we felt that over longer period of time he started to be unjustly and disproportionally singled out for failures/mistakes and labeled with names that no real City supporter should say about ANY player wearing Blue.

Here is what all of Bosnians on this forum would agree with:
- No, he will never suddenly slalom through defense like Messi does to score brilliant goal...
- Yes, he is sloppy sometimes with ball bouncing off of him.
- No, he will never run and be workhorse that Tevez/Milner/Zabaleta mostly are
- Yes, last few chances he was given he should've given better impression that he cared


All we tried (EagleFan, AntiUnited, noise and others even though I am not sure if they even identified themselves as Bosnians) to portray in this endless dissuasion is that he was not utilized properly playing to his strengths. In the end we even agreed that "he simply does not fit the system".

Yet, reality is that he was brought into team by Mancini who either somehow wasn't aware what kind of player he was getting and how to best utilize him or he was hoping Edin would suddenly start dribbling like Messi or Maradona.

HARD FACT: Overall, Edin did his job for the club with the opportunities manager gave him. I say that as a City fan, not as Bosnian.

I think it's important not to just count his time and contribution on the pitch, but to keep in mind formation and tactics that Mancini employed while playing him. There was nothing more frustrating to me to watch and wait eternity for midfield to pass that ball up front. I would rather see him play every 2nd or 3rd game but played to his strengths when he did. Just like the team played with Edin coming off the bench to bail Mancini out on more than few occasions.


So in the end, is it fair for me to generalize and paint a picture of typical 'true' City supporter simply based on image pominoz is portraying here? No, because I know he is the minority (and I wouldn't call him racist either) . Posters like CC1, Blue_Rossy, SilvaisSkyBlue here and thousands of others who went to Etihad and away games and sung Edin's name countless of times in support cuz I know they appreciate his contributions even though they have every right to be frustrated when the ball bounces off of him at times or when he is apparently not running around enough.

I thought Rafa was Spanish and not a Bosnian...
 
I hope Dzeko gets another season to see what he can do with proper supply from the wing..ie Navas.

Could be a match made in heaven(no pun intended)
 
AntiUnited said:
pominoz said:
AntiUnited said:
Kun has not sorry.

Yes he has, he has not been anywhere near as good as he was last year and many posters have said so.


Ofc he has been criticized but there usually one off comments in the match day forum, like ffs kun get new shooting shoes. nothing like the vitriol dzeko gets or any other play for that matter.

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For all his faults the guy will always score goals as he has done while with us.I remember watching him away at Bolton a couple of seasons ago and he was sensational,skill,trickery,pace and power and scoring.He was on fire,scored four goals at Tottenham and was then inexplicably left out of the team and never really hit those heights again.

He still however would come on and score,sometimes pretty important goals too.Now Chelsea are looking at him.I hope he stays and we will see if the new manager can get the best out of him.You can have all the running,skill,workrate etcetera as a forward but your job is to score GOALS and our other forwards haven't done that this year on the whole.If Edin continues to hit the back of the net,maybe more with a different system long may he stay.
 
paulchapo said:
For all his faults the guy will always score goals as he has done while with us.I remember watching him away at Bolton a couple of seasons ago and he was sensational,skill,trickery,pace and power and scoring.He was on fire,scored four goals at Tottenham and was then inexplicably left out of the team and never really hit those heights again.

He still however would come on and score,sometimes pretty important goals too.Now Chelsea are looking at him.I hope he stays and we will see if the new manager can get the best out of him.You can have all the running,skill,workrate etcetera as a forward but your job is to score GOALS and our other forwards haven't done that this year on the whole.If Edin continues to hit the back of the net,maybe more with a different system long may he stay.

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Too timid for my liking,he needs a greater fire in his belly - more aggression.
Given his physicality,defenders get far too easy a ride with him.

On all levels,Cavani would be a huge upgrade.
 
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