Elano & Robinho

amehh said:
To be honest, I am quite sick of people acting like these two players are the be all and end all of City. They aren't. Nobody knows why these two haven't been on form lately, and I don't think we ever will. Elano hasn't been the player we expected him to be for the whole season, so I don't see the sudden fuss over him. "Give him time." Yeah, whatever, he's has plenty of time. Sure, he's had a couple of decent games but in all fairness, that's it.

As for Robinho, I don't quite know what's going on there. At the moment, I think it's a little too early to start criticizing him because he's been nothing short of spectacular for us this season. At least, up until recent weeks. But hey, who wouldn't be a bit shakey after everything that has gone over the recent weeks? I can see why people are frustrated. Why can Robinho play like he did for Brazil and score a fantastic goal, yet he comes back to City and plays with no passion, right? Believe me I've asked myself the same question, and it really aggravates me. However I don't think the answer is to single him out, after all we've had some pretty dire performances from everyone in the team recently.

All I can say is, if the two don't want to play for City (which may I add, we don't know) then let them go. I have never understood the point in hanging onto players that quite simply do not want to play for the team. It never works out in the long run.

Oh and one more thing, if either of them are sold in the Summer, it's not the end of the world. We've got billions in the bank and they'll be replaced, possibly by better. Who knows? This is Manchester City after all - anything is possible. :)
1 League win away win from home is totally unacceptable

Most teams away from home stick every man behind the ball, we don't. We have too much faith in a couple of players who don't care, and it's affecting our results.

This has to be addressed. If it is not, Hughes will lose his job in the Summer, and the cycle will repeat itself. Problem is that Robinho and Elano are luxury players, they are not winners
 
If Robinho put some effort in like Bellamy we would have had a decent chance of winning it. At least Elano was trying andad a decent shot on goal. Robinho not trying, and Bridge who is in danger of becoming the new Mills, cost us the game.
 
When Petrov coes back we will have options and a hard very working player with class.
 
bluefandk said:
ConnorMCFC said:
sorry if something has been posted about this yesterday, but was it just me who thought that they were both a complete disgrace? Both lacked any fight or robinho's (will to win), didnt look interested and after seeing them play for brazil on tuesday, it looks like they want to play for there country more than there club

i know people stood around me thought the same yesterday, opinions?

Nobody on that team yesterday including the maneger was any good, so why single out these two?

The reason probably being because these two were probably the best placed players to have won us that game yesterday ...... they were certainly the most gifted!

I agree that nobody really came out of the game with much credit , but thses two less than most ..... simply because you expect better from Brazilians !

But neither looked interested ...... Robinho might as well have stayed at home ...... and Elano rarely looks like a player who tryin' to impress his manager ...... quite the opposite!

But as i've always said ....... away from home when the side is losing you find out who you can really rely on ....... would Carrick or Gerrard have gone AWOL ?

Robinho and Elano have have it all to prove!
 
What I don't understand is why so many people think it's acceptable for Robinho not to put in the effort, when we were in the lower league or even before the take over if people didn't put in a shift you bollocked them, now just because he's a big name you think we shouldn't. As that banner used to say a few years ago 'We dream to play in the shirt, today God chose you... you play like we dream'. That's why I will critisize him until we see him put in the effort, I won't boo him as I think that's wrong and I'll get behind him during the match, but if I don't think he's tried hard enough i'll say it.

And before people say "you have to take the good, with the bad for players like him" then why did we pay so much for him. The real world class players out there have the skill of Robinho but also put effort in week in, week out, just look at Gerrard, Kaka, Messi, Xavi, Rooney, Essien, Lampard etc...
 
we all know what they CAN DO, but we so little of it, its become much more about what they CANT DO!

but theres swee fa we can do about it which is so frustrating.

however in robinho's defence hes done pretty much naff all most of the season but the lad can finish, so we accept it, thats what happens when u've got a goal scorer,(it happend with henry towards the latter of his arsenal career), i think u;d b hard pushed to name a single player in the last decade who would have finished the chance against blackburn apart from him, certainly no1 in the current squad!

i dont think he does enough to impose himself on the game, looks like hes goin through the motions sonetimes.

in the case of elano hes not as good as he thinks he is, simple as that!! the leagues to quick and strong for him, he looks good for brazil because hes the woman not the superstar!!!!

jus my opinions.

CTID
 
i dont get to as many away games as i used to but i do feel for the people who do , sometimes you just wonder if these players look at the fans and think today i will do it for them or is it just about money in his pocket .
Are they just laughing at us , maybe its me but sometimes if you come away from a game and thought ,they gave everything today , at least you would be happy with that , or would you?
 

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