Elano

[TaylorWill07]

fuck off.

you say elano should be sold , yet no one else , i can think of worse player than elano.

he is undoubtably our best passer.

and , if we sell elano, guess who is starting most matches.

FUCKING WAKE UP!

to be honest mate, his passing has been terribe overall this year. played good last couple of games he has started ( thank god ) but before that the amount of times he gave the ball away was so annoying.
no chance we should sell him though.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Well when he leaves you can continue your obsession with the ex staff like, Distin, Sven and Corluka.

Yes because if Elano does leave then that will be 4 out of 4 that won't be playing for or managing us when we have plenty of players that are worse than those that remain and a manager not fit to lace Sven's boots.

 

[Anonymous]

Y'know its funny. Over at the swamp there are fans calling ferguscum deluded and calling for his head because he can't seem to incorporate Berbatov, Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez in the same starting XI.

I also remember Rijkaard being given a whole heap of shit last season for not being able to incorporate Ronaldinho, Henry, Messi, and Eto'o in the same starting XI.

Its funny that so many are convinced that the right thing to do is stick SWP back out on the right, and play Elano alongside Kompany in midfield. Me, I've had my moments of thinking like that. But the reality is I can accept we are actually more solid and more difficult to beat with SWP playing there and Vassel on the left. Which is what we needed to be after our soft defeats at Wigan, Boro, et al.

Now I've read on this thread that Hughes needs to "man manage" him and make everything rosy. I disagree. Elano is not Robinho, Ireland, or SWP. He has nowhere near the same impact on the first team that those three do. So, I think Elano should be grateful to be at a club which is moving in absolutely the right direction (regardless of who the manager is).

Amazes me that people are prepared to forgive him the interview he gave in the week Hughes was off to see the good Sheikh. That is exactly the kind of mickey mouse instability which you would expect at a comedy club like Newcastle. There has to be a line which players don't cross when it comes to team selection, and the manager's authority. I like the fact that MH hasn't publicly bollocked Elano, and has simply said the matter has been dealt with.

Elano, again, after last week's game in Brazil was alluding to his inability to hold down a starting place at City. It's a shame, because you would think if he's as nice a guy as some are making out, he'd simply role out the "it's about the team, not about me" line. He could talk about it being a long season and the need for squad rotation.

Honestly, regardless of his talent, there needs to be a point at which the greater good is that of the entire squad and MCFC as a club - not the feelings of a single player who is upset that one of our homegrown kids has taken his place.

 

[Anonymous]

Y'know its funny. Over at the swamp there are fans calling ferguscum deluded and calling for his head because he can't seem to incorporate Berbatov, Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez in the same starting XI.

I also remember Rijkaard being given a whole heap of shit last season for not being able to incorporate Ronaldinho, Henry, Messi, and Eto'o in the same starting XI.

Its funny that so many are convinced that the right thing to do is stick SWP back out on the right, and play Elano alongside Kompany in midfield. Me, I've had my moments of thinking like that. But the reality is I can accept we are actually more solid and more difficult to beat with SWP playing there and Vassel on the left. Which is what we needed to be after our soft defeats at Wigan, Boro, et al.

Now I've read on this thread that Hughes needs to "man manage" him and make everything rosy. I disagree. Elano is not Robinho, Ireland, or SWP. He has nowhere near the same impact on the first team that those three do. So, I think Elano should be grateful to be at a club which is moving in absolutely the right direction (regardless of who the manager is).

Amazes me that people are prepared to forgive him the interview he gave in the week Hughes was off to see the good Sheikh. That is exactly the kind of mickey mouse instability which you would expect at a comedy club like Newcastle. There has to be a line which players don't cross when it comes to team selection, and the manager's authority. I like the fact that MH hasn't publicly bollocked Elano, and has simply said the matter has been dealt with.

Elano, again, after last week's game in Brazil was alluding to his inability to hold down a starting place at City. It's a shame, because you would think if he's as nice a guy as some are making out, he'd simply role out the "it's about the team, not about me" line. He could talk about it being a long season and the need for squad rotation.

Honestly, regardless of his talent, there needs to be a point at which the greater good is that of the entire squad and MCFC as a club - not the feelings of a single player who is upset that one of our homegrown kids has taken his place.

You "know" so much for someone who who doesn't.

p.s Vassell plays on the right not the left.

 

[Daz Bes]

Y'know its funny. Over at the swamp there are fans calling ferguscum deluded and calling for his head because he can't seem to incorporate Berbatov, Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez in the same starting XI.

I also remember Rijkaard being given a whole heap of shit last season for not being able to incorporate Ronaldinho, Henry, Messi, and Eto'o in the same starting XI.

Its funny that so many are convinced that the right thing to do is stick SWP back out on the right, and play Elano alongside Kompany in midfield. Me, I've had my moments of thinking like that. But the reality is I can accept we are actually more solid and more difficult to beat with SWP playing there and Vassel on the left. Which is what we needed to be after our soft defeats at Wigan, Boro, et al.

Now I've read on this thread that Hughes needs to "man manage" him and make everything rosy. I disagree. Elano is not Robinho, Ireland, or SWP. He has nowhere near the same impact on the first team that those three do. So, I think Elano should be grateful to be at a club which is moving in absolutely the right direction (regardless of who the manager is).

Amazes me that people are prepared to forgive him the interview he gave in the week Hughes was off to see the good Sheikh. That is exactly the kind of mickey mouse instability which you would expect at a comedy club like Newcastle. There has to be a line which players don't cross when it comes to team selection, and the manager's authority. I like the fact that MH hasn't publicly bollocked Elano, and has simply said the matter has been dealt with.

Elano, again, after last week's game in Brazil was alluding to his inability to hold down a starting place at City. It's a shame, because you would think if he's as nice a guy as some are making out, he'd simply role out the "it's about the team, not about me" line. He could talk about it being a long season and the need for squad rotation.

Honestly, regardless of his talent, there needs to be a point at which the greater good is that of the entire squad and MCFC as a club - not the feelings of a single player who is upset that one of our homegrown kids has taken his place.

I completely agree with you BS.

You can actually see a team spirit being formed if not already there and if you want to win anything that spirit has to be paramount to any success.

I think Elano is class, no questionning that but his temprement has always been questionable.

If he loves City like he says he does then head down and carry on, his time will come.

 

[Wooderbeen]

First and foremost I'm a Man City fan. Nobody is bigger than the club, whether that be Hughes or Elano, and nobody has the devine right to be in the side.

I was of the opinion that Elano should have been playing when he was on the bench, but after his misjudged press he went so far down in my estimation that I honestly wouldn't be sad to see him leave the club. His childishness in going to the press after being left out for just two games was detrimental to the club and our preparations for the following match. If I was Hughes I'm not sure he'd have even played a part in the Arsenal game. Borders have to be set for players and when lines are crossed, irrespective of who crosses them, then they should be punished and brought back in line. I know I've said this before, but how do you think Ferguson, Clough or Shankly would have reacted to one of their squad members doing that? With a damn site more vigour than Hughes seemingly did is my guess.

What about the Ronaldo saga in the summer?

One says he wants to leave the club and go and play for one of their rivals and continues to play and shine.
The other says he wants to play for the club and make us successful and gets put on the bench and watches Vassell take his place as punishment.

It's about timing. It's one thing to be making daft claims in the press during your summer break, but it's quite another to do it during the season, days before a game.

Am I to read into that then that you think what Elano did was fair enough? Let's put your feelings about Hughes aside for just one second.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Spot on Billy.

 

[Anonymous]

Y'know its funny. Over at the swamp there are fans calling ferguscum deluded and calling for his head because he can't seem to incorporate Berbatov, Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez in the same starting XI.

I also remember Rijkaard being given a whole heap of shit last season for not being able to incorporate Ronaldinho, Henry, Messi, and Eto'o in the same starting XI.

Its funny that so many are convinced that the right thing to do is stick SWP back out on the right, and play Elano alongside Kompany in midfield. Me, I've had my moments of thinking like that. But the reality is I can accept we are actually more solid and more difficult to beat with SWP playing there and Vassel on the left. Which is what we needed to be after our soft defeats at Wigan, Boro, et al.

Now I've read on this thread that Hughes needs to "man manage" him and make everything rosy. I disagree. Elano is not Robinho, Ireland, or SWP. He has nowhere near the same impact on the first team that those three do. So, I think Elano should be grateful to be at a club which is moving in absolutely the right direction (regardless of who the manager is).

Amazes me that people are prepared to forgive him the interview he gave in the week Hughes was off to see the good Sheikh. That is exactly the kind of mickey mouse instability which you would expect at a comedy club like Newcastle. There has to be a line which players don't cross when it comes to team selection, and the manager's authority. I like the fact that MH hasn't publicly bollocked Elano, and has simply said the matter has been dealt with.

Elano, again, after last week's game in Brazil was alluding to his inability to hold down a starting place at City. It's a shame, because you would think if he's as nice a guy as some are making out, he'd simply role out the "it's about the team, not about me" line. He could talk about it being a long season and the need for squad rotation.

Honestly, regardless of his talent, there needs to be a point at which the greater good is that of the entire squad and MCFC as a club - not the feelings of a single player who is upset that one of our homegrown kids has taken his place.

You "know" so much for someone who who doesn't.

p.s Vassell plays on the right not the left.

Sorry, my mistake, I meant the right.

As for me not knowing. I can live with a little abuse on bluemoon. The truth will out eventually...

 

[Anonymous]

What about the Ronaldo saga in the summer?

One says he wants to leave the club and go and play for one of their rivals and continues to play and shine.
The other says he wants to play for the club and make us successful and gets put on the bench and watches Vassell take his place as punishment.

It's about timing. It's one thing to be making daft claims in the press during your summer break, but it's quite another to do it during the season, days before a game.

Am I to read into that then that you think what Elano did was fair enough? Let's put your feelings about Hughes aside for just one second.

If you read or hear what Elano said it was bascially this - "i don't know why i am not playing at the moment, i respect the manager but all i want to do is play for the team and make this club successful because i love it"

That to me is nothing bad at all, all he says is he wants to play, he doesn't slag Hughes off or the club, he just says he wants to play.

Fair enough if we have a player as good as Elano or better to play instead of him but when that player is Darius Vassell then all it is is Hughes cutting his nose off to spite his face and trying to stamp his authority on the squad in the wrong way.

 

[Anonymous]

You "know" so much for someone who who doesn't.

p.s Vassell plays on the right not the left.

Sorry, my mistake, I meant the right.

As for me not knowing. I can live with a little abuse on bluemoon. The truth will out eventually...

That's hardly abuse now is it? All i am saying is that you are speculating a hell of alot on stuff that you assume is true.