Eliaquim Mangala - now official

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Re: Eliaquim Mangala

we should signing top CB to be partner with Kompany. maybe we can't get T.Silva and Hummels, but singing Manggala or Benatia would be great.

i'm tired seeing our defensive performance this season. it's funny to see kompany all over the place, covering his partner position, and making so many mistakes in the process.

I think txiki should focus his attention on Benatia. He's more experienced , plays in a league that's more competitive and has better stats defensively.

BENATIA <a class="postlink" href="http://www.whoscored.com/Players/29888/Show/Mehdi-Benatia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.whoscored.com/Players/29888/ ... di-Benatia</a>
Tournament Apps Tackle Int Fouls Off Won Clr Was Dribbled Blk Shots Rating
Serie A* 30 2.2 2.8 1.8 0.5 6.7 0.3 0.7 - 7.63

MANGALA <a class="postlink" href="http://www.whoscored.com/Players/68852/Show/Eliaquim-Mangala" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.whoscored.com/Players/68852/ ... im-Mangala</a>
Tournament Apps Tackle Int Fouls Off Won Clr Was Dribbled Blk Shots Rating
UEFA Champions League* 6 1.2 1 1.7 0.3 4.2 0.3 0.5 - 6.75
UEFA Europa League* 6 1.3 0.8 0.8 0.7 6.8 - 0.5 - 7.3
Total 31 (1) 1.3 0.9 1.3 0.5 5.5 0.3 0.5 7.03

IMO the only advantage mangala has over Benatia is his age.

 

[Bpughh]

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David Luiz would be great for us, good on the ball and quick so could cope with the high line. I'd much prefer him than Mangala

Do me a favour, we want a defender!!

He struggles at chelsea defending because they want him to stand off the striker so he doesn't get skinned,which is not his style. He wants to be a front foot defender like kompany/demichelis play and I seriously believe he'd become a top top defender at us,Barcelona etc. where we play that way.

you're right. don't think chelsea would ever sell him to us though

 

[BlueDejong]

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Smart Manchester City have continued work on big transfer deal quietly

Manchester City, despite claims otherwise, kept up a mainly softly softly approach with Porto during the winter transfer window. It was no secret that they'd be pursuing Fernando but they didn't want to make that transfer at the expense of angering Porto and therefore blowing their place at the front of the queue for Eliaquim Mangala. Approaches by other clubs almost forced Manchester City's hand but a last minute double deal never took off.

Fernando wasn't thrilled with the situation and with his contract ending in June he refused to sign a new one, something Porto insisted was already a gentleman's agreement. Much fury went on in the Portuguese press and Porto told Fernando, publicly, that he'd be in the reserves unless he signed a deal. That he did, and everything was forgotten, ready to be played out again in the summer.

Manchester City, however, didn't rest. According to Thursday's copy of O Jogo the club have been respectfully trying to further a deal for both Mangala and Fernando for months. They want to head off any problems early and one of those is Mangala's ownership situation. Third party ownership isn't permitted in English football and therefore Manchester City would have to purchase around half of the player's rights separately.

Porto want to keep one of Mangala, Fernando or Jackson Martinez for next season and a double deal with Manchester City for the former two would perhaps be the best way to do it.

 

[Dribble]

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Overrated and too expensive. I still believe Jan Vertonghen or Thomas Vermaelen would be better value for money. The fact they play with Vincent Kompany for the Belgium is an added bonus. They also have Premier League and Champions League experience, so surely this must make them suitable targets in the summer...

Vermaelan? He has been average at Arsenal for the past few season now, Everton tore him a new one the other week.

Vertonghen's lack pace would get destroyed in our high line, he gets recognition because he is a decent ball playing defender but apart form that his defensive ability is to be questioned big time.

His post was about value for money and he's spot on mate.

We could get either of those for under 15m. Both are prem proven and adapted.

Mangala is neither and would cost 30m+.

I'm glad someone posted this as I was told by someone with good knowledge of Mangala that he's very overrated and that we'd be mad to spend anything over £10m - £15m on him. Apparently he's very inconsistent and error prone.

I've only ever seen him play in 2 matches and he was poor in both and was to blame for all 3 goals in the last one. I trust the club know what they're doing where transfers are concerned and hope if we are in for him, it's for the right price and he doesn't turn out to be a turkey for all our sakes.

But after what I've heard and seen, I'd feel more comfortable if we looked at other targets TBH.

 

[Manc in London]

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Overrated and too expensive. I still believe Jan Vertonghen or Thomas Vermaelen would be better value for money. The fact they play with Vincent Kompany for the Belgium is an added bonus. They also have Premier League and Champions League experience, so surely this must make them suitable targets in the summer...

Vermaelan? He has been average at Arsenal for the past few season now, Everton tore him a new one the other week.

Vertonghen's lack pace would get destroyed in our high line, he gets recognition because he is a decent ball playing defender but apart form that his defensive ability is to be questioned big time.

I too don't rate Vertonghen's defensive abilities but he certainly isn't slow. I am struggling to think of many centre halves in this country who are quicker. I reckon he is as quick as Vinny.

 

[BigOscar]

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Overrated and too expensive. I still believe Jan Vertonghen or Thomas Vermaelen would be better value for money. The fact they play with Vincent Kompany for the Belgium is an added bonus. They also have Premier League and Champions League experience, so surely this must make them suitable targets in the summer...

Vermaelan? He has been average at Arsenal for the past few season now, Everton tore him a new one the other week.

Vertonghen's lack pace would get destroyed in our high line, he gets recognition because he is a decent ball playing defender but apart form that his defensive ability is to be questioned big time.

I too don't rate Vertonghen's defensive abilities but he certainly isn't slow. I am struggling to think of many centre halves in this country who are quicker. I reckon he is as quick as Vinny.

Definetly not true, he's incredibly one paced. Been caught out repeatedly this year because of it, none more so than being left for dead by Ravel Morisson. Morrison is not particualr quick, yet was much faster even with the ball than Vertonghen was without it

 

[Manc in London]

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Vermaelan? He has been average at Arsenal for the past few season now, Everton tore him a new one the other week.

Vertonghen's lack pace would get destroyed in our high line, he gets recognition because he is a decent ball playing defender but apart form that his defensive ability is to be questioned big time.

I too don't rate Vertonghen's defensive abilities but he certainly isn't slow. I am struggling to think of many centre halves in this country who are quicker. I reckon he is as quick as Vinny.

Definetly not true, he's incredibly one paced. Been caught out repeatedly this year because of it, none more so than being left for dead by Ravel Morisson. Morrison is not particualr quick, yet was much faster even with the ball than Vertonghen was without it

If he was so slow why would he had been selected as a full back on occasions for Spurs and Belgium? You can see on various videos that he is not slow.If I wasn't using my phone, I would post them. It is so blatantly obvious that he is not slow.

I have sat in the East Stand at White Hart Lane and seen him outpace opposition players.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

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Hibbert's slow, Kolarov's hardly rapid, Gaz Nev was slow, Puyol's played as a full back and he's painfully slow. Ace but slow.

 

[BigOscar]

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I too don't rate Vertonghen's defensive abilities but he certainly isn't slow. I am struggling to think of many centre halves in this country who are quicker. I reckon he is as quick as Vinny.

Definetly not true, he's incredibly one paced. Been caught out repeatedly this year because of it, none more so than being left for dead by Ravel Morisson. Morrison is not particualr quick, yet was much faster even with the ball than Vertonghen was without it

If he was so slow why would he had been selected as a full back on occasions for Spurs and Belgium?

Because Belgium have no leftbacks and neither do Spurs? Plenty of shit slow fullbacks out there

 

[Manc in London]

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Hibbert's slow, Kolarov's hardly rapid, Gaz Nev was slow, Puyol's played as a full back and he's painfully slow. Ace but slow.

Fair point but it still does not prove that he is slow.