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Elon Musk is a ****: Part 25671
Elon Musk buys and ruins Twitter
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Stuff on the Elon vs Open AI thing I posted about yesterday.
This is the historically correct version;
www.semafor.com
Here's Sam Altman on Lex Friedman's podcast today, calling Elon 'A Jerk'.
The fuller version looks even worse for Elon. Like he truly stiffed himself and thought he'd let OpenAI go to the wall. But to me, OpenAI + Twitter would have had massive potential. Maybe he stopped any link up there. But at the same time, I've a vague suspicion buying Twitter sorta looks like compensation for his ego. Clearly it happened just as GPT3.5 started to make waves.
Still. Twitter wasn't a disaster some predicted. It's been uneven, but it's run easily enough, and remains a massive draw for people. It's worth having. The inevitability is that he, like all these guys, will end up letting go of control. But he'll remain 'in charge' of a thing of value far beyond than his short term political messaging and ego-wankery.
They can run it. People want to use it. It has revenue, and he's slashed costs. Was always going to be hard to truly destroy a thing that's actually not that complicated, when you have people who easily know enough to repair it, when the dropouts in the service only increase awareness and therefore demand.
A jerk is a jerk. Elon's a jerk. He makes life difficult for himself. But he's a jerk with three future oriented class leading companies like Tesla, Space X, and Twitter, needs to be respected for their ability and standing in the game. He is going nowhere. And I hate to tell people like this, but people are jerks. Big time. Elon is in touch with that, in touch with the reality of people, at moments you and I are not. And being a jerk is not even the worst thing you can be. Sometimes not being a jerk is a misguided niceity. And all the song and dance we make about that is just waffle. He's not affected by that. On either score. That is partly why he is where he is. People should get real. Otherwise the jerks will run away with it.
This is the historically correct version;
The secret history of Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and OpenAI | Semafor
In 2018, Musk wanted to take charge of OpenAI to beat Google but others opposed the move, putting Altman at the helm.
www.semafor.com
Here's Sam Altman on Lex Friedman's podcast today, calling Elon 'A Jerk'.
The fuller version looks even worse for Elon. Like he truly stiffed himself and thought he'd let OpenAI go to the wall. But to me, OpenAI + Twitter would have had massive potential. Maybe he stopped any link up there. But at the same time, I've a vague suspicion buying Twitter sorta looks like compensation for his ego. Clearly it happened just as GPT3.5 started to make waves.
Still. Twitter wasn't a disaster some predicted. It's been uneven, but it's run easily enough, and remains a massive draw for people. It's worth having. The inevitability is that he, like all these guys, will end up letting go of control. But he'll remain 'in charge' of a thing of value far beyond than his short term political messaging and ego-wankery.
They can run it. People want to use it. It has revenue, and he's slashed costs. Was always going to be hard to truly destroy a thing that's actually not that complicated, when you have people who easily know enough to repair it, when the dropouts in the service only increase awareness and therefore demand.
A jerk is a jerk. Elon's a jerk. He makes life difficult for himself. But he's a jerk with three future oriented class leading companies like Tesla, Space X, and Twitter, needs to be respected for their ability and standing in the game. He is going nowhere. And I hate to tell people like this, but people are jerks. Big time. Elon is in touch with that, in touch with the reality of people, at moments you and I are not. And being a jerk is not even the worst thing you can be. Sometimes not being a jerk is a misguided niceity. And all the song and dance we make about that is just waffle. He's not affected by that. On either score. That is partly why he is where he is. People should get real. Otherwise the jerks will run away with it.
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Stuff on the Elon vs Open AI thing I posted about yesterday.
This is the historically correct version;
The secret history of Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and OpenAI | Semafor
In 2018, Musk wanted to take charge of OpenAI to beat Google but others opposed the move, putting Altman at the helm.
Here's Sam Altman on Lex Friedman's podcast today, calling Elon 'A Jerk'.
The fuller version looks even worse for Elon. Like he truly stiffed himself and thought he'd let OpenAI go to the wall. But to me, OpenAI + Twitter would have had massive potential. Maybe he stopped any link up there. But at the same time, I've a vague suspicion buying Twitter sorta looks like compensation for his ego. Clearly it happened just as GPT3.5 started to make waves.
Still. Twitter wasn't a disaster some predicted. It's been uneven, but it's run easily enough, and remains a massive draw for people. It's worth having. The inevitability is that he, like all these guys, will end up letting go of control. But he'll remain 'in charge' of a thing of value far beyond than his short term political messaging and ego-wankery.
They can run it. People want to use it. It has revenue, and he's slashed costs. Was always going to be hard to truly destroy a thing that's actually not that complicated, when you have people who easily know enough to repair it, when the dropouts in the service only increase awareness and therefore demand.
A jerk is a jerk. Elon's a jerk. He makes life difficult for himself. But he's a jerk with three future oriented class leading companies like Tesla, Space X, and Twitter, needs to be respected for their ability and standing in the game. He is going nowhere. And I hate to tell people like this, but people are jerks. Big time. Elon is in touch with that, in touch with the reality of people, at moments you and I are not. And being a jerk is not even the worst thing you can be. Sometimes not being a jerk is a misguided niceity. And all the song and dance we make about that is just waffle. He's not affected by that. On either score. That is partly why he is where he is. People should get real. Otherwise the jerks will run away with it.
Elon bought Twitter in part because he thought it was a woke liberal echo chamber and it needed 'fixing'. He honestly thought that he could neutralise the bias in the coding and it would be full of intelligent and articulate right wing centred debate. He also thought that it would be easy to ramp up the income streams.
So far his dabbling with the code and his polictical interventions have been a disaster. And the finances we cant say for sure but anecdotally - he's absolutely ruined it.
It was never user friendly however it has really gone to shit.
Constantly bombarded by 'culture war' stuff that I don't give a crap about.
They really want/need engagement numbers to rise so are trying to get people retweeting and posting more by getting them involved in all the shouting matches.
I like science, nature and astronomy but I have to go to individual persons/organisations pages to now see their tweets.
Constantly bombarded by 'culture war' stuff that I don't give a crap about.
They really want/need engagement numbers to rise so are trying to get people retweeting and posting more by getting them involved in all the shouting matches.
I like science, nature and astronomy but I have to go to individual persons/organisations pages to now see their tweets.
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This is BS..He invested in Open Ai as he see's the danger that AI can pose to the world if unshackled. Being a big investor would give him a voice..the money is irrelevant to him...Microsoft otherwise known as his arch nemesis Bill Gates, have no such foresight in the dangers AI could pose and probably don't give a F*ck.
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fucking hell that's just got me laughing mate, no offence but that's a right old mess of unlikely viewpoints and backpropogation/retcon. not what I expected from your quarter, although maybe I've got you mixed up with someone else.
he invested donkeys years ago. to stop AI? yeah... okay! he was majorly hyping AI's potential until just before MS bought Open AI. check his tweet history on the subject. Now it's evil and he's the responsible one? I mean... don't make me laugh. he's jealous, it took headlines off him, it's the big thing and he's not involved. as soon as he gets any AI product he'll be pushing it like crazy. Still, I could kinda accept it as a plausible viewpoint. But not that he was always only ever investing because he was worried about it. Jesus wept. That's some seriously contorted projectioneering. I hope you have a nice weekend, because it sounds like you might actually need it!
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You do realise that Bill Gates has been talking about the dangers of AI for years, right?
Bill Gates Says You Should Worry About Artificial Intelligence
Bill Gates, like fellow brainiac Stephen Hawking and Tesla Motors founder / Iron Man inspiration Elon Musk, fears that artificial intelligence could pose a threat to humanity.
www.forbes.com
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He's also been spouting the dangers of virus's for years and what do we get years later, after he's balls deep in the Pharma companies.You do realise that Bill Gates has been talking about the dangers of AI for years, right?
Bill Gates Says You Should Worry About Artificial Intelligence
Bill Gates, like fellow brainiac Stephen Hawking and Tesla Motors founder / Iron Man inspiration Elon Musk, fears that artificial intelligence could pose a threat to humanity.
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We get some of the largest philanthropic contributions towards universal vaccination in third world countries ever seen.
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