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Elon Musk is a ****: Part 25671
Stuff on the Elon vs Open AI thing I posted about yesterday.
This is the historically correct version;
The secret history of Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and OpenAI | Semafor
In 2018, Musk wanted to take charge of OpenAI to beat Google but others opposed the move, putting Altman at the helm.www.semafor.com
Here's Sam Altman on Lex Friedman's podcast today, calling Elon 'A Jerk'.
The fuller version looks even worse for Elon. Like he truly stiffed himself and thought he'd let OpenAI go to the wall. But to me, OpenAI + Twitter would have had massive potential. Maybe he stopped any link up there. But at the same time, I've a vague suspicion buying Twitter sorta looks like compensation for his ego. Clearly it happened just as GPT3.5 started to make waves.
Still. Twitter wasn't a disaster some predicted. It's been uneven, but it's run easily enough, and remains a massive draw for people. It's worth having. The inevitability is that he, like all these guys, will end up letting go of control. But he'll remain 'in charge' of a thing of value far beyond than his short term political messaging and ego-wankery.
They can run it. People want to use it. It has revenue, and he's slashed costs. Was always going to be hard to truly destroy a thing that's actually not that complicated, when you have people who easily know enough to repair it, when the dropouts in the service only increase awareness and therefore demand.
A jerk is a jerk. Elon's a jerk. He makes life difficult for himself. But he's a jerk with three future oriented class leading companies like Tesla, Space X, and Twitter, needs to be respected for their ability and standing in the game. He is going nowhere. And I hate to tell people like this, but people are jerks. Big time. Elon is in touch with that, in touch with the reality of people, at moments you and I are not. And being a jerk is not even the worst thing you can be. Sometimes not being a jerk is a misguided niceity. And all the song and dance we make about that is just waffle. He's not affected by that. On either score. That is partly why he is where he is. People should get real. Otherwise the jerks will run away with it.
This is BS..He invested in Open Ai as he see's the danger that AI can pose to the world if unshackled. Being a big investor would give him a voice..the money is irrelevant to him...Microsoft otherwise known as his arch nemesis Bill Gates, have no such foresight in the dangers AI could pose and probably don't give a F*ck.I see we got bored of this.
Just a little tidbit I heard, well enough sourced, thought some of you might enjoy it.
Remember the big story about Microsoft buying Open AI, who are responsible for Chat GPT? Well, it sounded like a good move to me, although, whilst they are currently gaining users quite strongly, and Google are suffering, I think they should be aiming a lot higher than 15% growth in users for Bing.
But the goss is this. The move was quite controversial, as Open AI had, as their name may suggests, been a non-profit organisation. Even if they aren't "open" to any useful extent (they don't release the vital components of the software at all).
Being non-profit, they were relying nearly entirely on donations.
Elon gave them $100m. When they released Chat GPT 3.5 a few months ago, it caused a huge fuss, and users flocked to the service. Elon must have thought his ship had come in. The money was running out really quickly, as they had to hire buildings full of servers so people like me could try out their product. Elon had predicted this, and said they could come back for another BILLION.
Now, Elon is not giving away a billion dollars to anyone. There's little doubt, he was looking to leverage their need for cash, and turn it into control and equity.
But then MS swooped in and trumped him. They could immediately provide the servers to Open AI, so cash was not an issue. Further, they agreed to pay a big old price to purchase the organisation, and get the chance to revamp their entire software lineup with the first generation of user friendly AI tools. They also have loads of experience in tailoring solutions for outside companies, and today we've seen the first batch of web commerce sites annoucing GPT powered functions on their sites.
It's classic Microsoft, the big swoop, timed to perfection. Elon cannot be sicker. He has absolutely no chance of getting his hands on the big prize, the mass market AI search / browser. He can hope Microsoft will sell it to him for use in Tesla's but that is not what he wanted, for sure.
Now it looks like Elon wants that 100m back. And today, Sam Altman (Open AI's key figure) is in the press saying he never took equity in the organisation, which - if true, and true of the rest of the board - means Elon is facing an uphill struggle to get a cent back. He faces a fairly strong possibility of ending up having shelled out $100m to develop Microsoft's killer app for them, getting no return whatsoever.
fucking hell that's just got me laughing mate, no offence but that's a right old mess of unlikely viewpoints and backpropogation/retcon. not what I expected from your quarter, although maybe I've got you mixed up with someone else.This is BS..He invested in Open Ai as he see's the danger that AI can pose to the world if unshackled. Being a big investor would give him a voice..the money is irrelevant to him...Microsoft otherwise known as his arch nemesis Bill Gates, have no such foresight in the dangers AI could pose and probably don't give a F*ck.
You do realise that Bill Gates has been talking about the dangers of AI for years, right?This is BS..He invested in Open Ai as he see's the danger that AI can pose to the world if unshackled. Being a big investor would give him a voice..the money is irrelevant to him...Microsoft otherwise known as his arch nemesis Bill Gates, have no such foresight in the dangers AI could pose and probably don't give a F*ck.
He's also been spouting the dangers of virus's for years and what do we get years later, after he's balls deep in the Pharma companies.You do realise that Bill Gates has been talking about the dangers of AI for years, right?
Bill Gates Says You Should Worry About Artificial Intelligence
Bill Gates, like fellow brainiac Stephen Hawking and Tesla Motors founder / Iron Man inspiration Elon Musk, fears that artificial intelligence could pose a threat to humanity.www.forbes.com
We get some of the largest philanthropic contributions towards universal vaccination in third world countries ever seen.He's also been spouting the dangers of virus's for years and what do we get years later, after he's balls deep in the Pharma companies.
Those are the ones with the 5g mind control chips yeah?We get some of the largest philanthropic contributions towards universal vaccination in third world countries ever seen.