Empty seats.. worsening trend?

[dobobobo]

Every home match in the league I wacth on the 80 minute mark and old chap and his wife leave from the top of Colin Bell on level 3 so that they can get out safely. Why can't they have two seats in a lower tier which is empty most of the season?

They might prefer the view from level 3.

You've not be up level 3 have you.

 

[franksinatra]

Well I was!! For the first time since I got a season card I have missed quite a few matches this season and I am finding the 'holier than thou' or I'm a better fan than you because I have attended all games attitude beneath some Blues who I once had great respect for.

There are many reasons for people not attending and they have been explained on here. Also the empty seats can, possibly, be explained, as people keep telling you, by the fact that the club hold back tickets and give tickets to groups.! If you are so worried about seats then contact the club don't come on here insulting fellow Blues who could be devastated, as I was, to miss so many matches!



Rant over!

You have my sympathies Eccles Blue. When I miss games I lend my card to my father who sadly is finding it more difficult to attend games due to ill health. The guy has been going since the 50s and his father since the 20s yet I have to listen to 'City fans' going on about forcing fans who miss games to lose loyalty points are lose their season tickets. Not a chance I will give up my ticket and deny him the pleasure of attending games when he can.

Anyway I hope you remain in good health and do not lose your ticket or receive negative loyalty points like the absurd suggestion of some City fans.

Exaggeration.^^^^^

We're not talking about odd matches, we're talking about using data to show those who just use their ticket to turn up to big games and doing something about it.

The fact you have taken offence to the suggestion and Exaggerated goes to show that those use their ticket casually (not you) might think twice about treating their ticket casually.

As I've said before, I've no problem with them turinng up when they want, but move those people somewhere where there is less demand so that others can use their seat(s). Every home match in the league I wacth on the 80 minute mark and old chap and his wife leave from the top of Colin Bell on level 3 so that they can get out safely. Why can't they have two seats in a lower tier which is empty most of the season?

I would guess those two people could have a ticket lower down but choose not too. Probably becuase there is more a tendency for people to stand in the lower tiers. I do not think the club would be using people to anlayse data on its own fans who have purchased tickets. If they do what then? Write to the person asking why they did not attend, request reasons for absenteeism and do we provide information upfront like a doctors note etc?

Could you imagine going to your GP and asking them to write a letter because you may lose your ticket or loyalty points. It is an impossible system to run fairly. I find it incredible people cannot see this.

All you are going to do is alienate supporters.

 

[lancs blue]

The club do not help themselves when it comes to ticket sales, I notice that the Wednesday tickets are now only available to purchase in person from the TO plus some on the Cup scheme whose payment failed have to go there as well to get their cards activated. Why on earth can't members buy online right up to KO, it's only a matter of the card being automatically activated when the payment is authorised. If the software isn't up to that they need to get it upgraded asap as it will be costing the club money.

You can still phone up and book them over the phone.

Not according to this, which was put up on the OS just before noon today.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Tickets-and-Travel/2014/December/City-v-Sheffield-Wednesday-ticket-information" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Tickets-and- ... nformation</a>

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

It's amazing how nobody is sick or committed elsewhere on Derby day!

Maybe it's a bit easier to find takers for your derby ticket than to something like Burnley? Or maybe, people book leave from work for important games, or book childcare?

It's also amazing that these hordes of families who can't get into the ground took until the morning of the match to sell out the 5k or so available tickets for the Burnley match.

You keep referring to "Hordes" in your emails Moomba. Have you been watching your battle for Middle Earth DVDs over the festive period.

I am not claiming that there are thousands of families being turned away from games by season card "missing". There are enough however to make this a problem that should be overcome!

I'm getting bored of saying this, but you have no evidence whatsoever that so much as a single season card holder was "missing" against Sunderland. Several people have pointed out to you (and others) that the large blocks of seats visible in the North Stand in particular, were unlikely to have come from missing season card holding families, or at least not unless one of the Osmonds married one of the Von Trapps, and all 20 of them bought season cards together.

By the law of averages of course, a few of the empties will have been due to missing season card holders, but I suspect not enough to be a real issue, and the notion that prices would come tumbling down if the 'missing' opted not to renew, is naive in the extreme

 

[dobobobo]

You think that is a good idea? As has been pointed out we do not have a huge fanbase of supporters desperate to get tickets. For both Burnley and Sunderland (Stated on the OS as sold out at 11.55 on the day of the game) even shifting 6000 tickets over christmas is a struggle. Yet you think City should alienate the supporters base who have committed to buying tickets for 19 matches.

Could you imagine if fans started missing out on Cup Final/Derby tickets due to receiving negative loyalty points due to family/personal illness, being made redundant, bereavment, no carer to take them to the game, or even a condition which prevents attendance in winter.

Fortunately the club is not stupid enough to risk the possible negative publicity or alienation of its paying customers who have been prepared to commit the money upfront regardless of form/position. What a ridiculous suggestion.

Have you had too much Christmas and New Year's sherry? As has been stated many times with this suggestion, people with very good reasons would be exempt.

As for demand for tickets, we are playing three games at home in a week so the 130,000 plus tickets sold isn't poor demand in my book.

Also, you insult our Club by claiming demand for tickets is poor. Our owners don't suffer fools gladly and wouldn't be increasing the capacity of the stadium without good reason!

I think its you who has been on the sherry.

Back on planet earth for the minute are you expecting your local GP to writing out sick notes for periods of illness? Letters confirming attendance from visiting accident and emergency? Photocopies of employment benefit records to highlight the games you have missed? And what about holidays? Do you honestly think for one second the club will employ people to deal with this correspondence and confirming its authenticity?

Also we have not sold out 130000 tickets over the festive period. We have sold around 18k with the other 112k being sold at the start of the season.

^^^^ Exaggeration.

 

[franksinatra]

The club do not help themselves when it comes to ticket sales, I notice that the Wednesday tickets are now only available to purchase in person from the TO plus some on the Cup scheme whose payment failed have to go there as well to get their cards activated. Why on earth can't members buy online right up to KO, it's only a matter of the card being automatically activated when the payment is authorised. If the software isn't up to that they need to get it upgraded asap as it will be costing the club money.

You can still phone up and book them over the phone.

Not according to this, which was put up on the OS just before noon today.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Tickets-and-Travel/2014/December/City-v-Sheffield-Wednesday-ticket-information" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Tickets-and- ... nformation</a>

I phones up two hours ago mate to book a ticket. They were going to process it until I said I wanted to activate myself on the cup scheme and they said I would have to do that in the morning. They had no problem booking a ticket though

 

[moomba]

Every home match in the league I wacth on the 80 minute mark and old chap and his wife leave from the top of Colin Bell on level 3 so that they can get out safely. Why can't they have two seats in a lower tier which is empty most of the season?

They might prefer the view from level 3.

You've not be up level 3 have you.

L3 isnt my favourite to be fair. Also spent a couple of years on L1, bit hard to see the other end of the pitch. L2 is where it is at.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

You have my sympathies Eccles Blue. When I miss games I lend my card to my father who sadly is finding it more difficult to attend games due to ill health. The guy has been going since the 50s and his father since the 20s yet I have to listen to 'City fans' going on about forcing fans who miss games to lose loyalty points are lose their season tickets. Not a chance I will give up my ticket and deny him the pleasure of attending games when he can.

Anyway I hope you remain in good health and do not lose your ticket or receive negative loyalty points like the absurd suggestion of some City fans.

Exaggeration.^^^^^

We're not talking about odd matches, we're talking about using data to show those who just use their ticket to turn up to big games and doing something about it.

The fact you have taken offence to the suggestion and Exaggerated goes to show that those use their ticket casually (not you) might think twice about treating their ticket casually.

As I've said before, I've no problem with them turinng up when they want, but move those people somewhere where there is less demand so that others can use their seat(s). Every home match in the league I wacth on the 80 minute mark and old chap and his wife leave from the top of Colin Bell on level 3 so that they can get out safely. Why can't they have two seats in a lower tier which is empty most of the season?

I would guess those two people could have a ticket lower down but choose not too. Probably becuase there is more a tendency for people to stand in the lower tiers. I do not think the club would be using people to anlayse data on its own fans who have purchased tickets. If they do what then? Write to the person asking why they did not attend, request reasons for absenteeism and do we provide information upfront like a doctors note etc?

Could you imagine going to your GP and asking them to write a letter because you may lose your ticket or loyalty points. It is an impossible system to run fairly. I find it incredible people cannot see this.

All you are going to do is alienate supporters.

It's Blue Moon old chap. You don't think people bother to think things through?!

 

[franksinatra]

Have you had too much Christmas and New Year's sherry? As has been stated many times with this suggestion, people with very good reasons would be exempt.

As for demand for tickets, we are playing three games at home in a week so the 130,000 plus tickets sold isn't poor demand in my book.

Also, you insult our Club by claiming demand for tickets is poor. Our owners don't suffer fools gladly and wouldn't be increasing the capacity of the stadium without good reason!

I think its you who has been on the sherry.

Back on planet earth for the minute are you expecting your local GP to writing out sick notes for periods of illness? Letters confirming attendance from visiting accident and emergency? Photocopies of employment benefit records to highlight the games you have missed? And what about holidays? Do you honestly think for one second the club will employ people to deal with this correspondence and confirming its authenticity?

Also we have not sold out 130000 tickets over the festive period. We have sold around 18k with the other 112k being sold at the start of the season.

^^^^ Exaggeration.

Still no indication how the system would work. Not workable is it?

 

[dobobobo]

You have my sympathies Eccles Blue. When I miss games I lend my card to my father who sadly is finding it more difficult to attend games due to ill health. The guy has been going since the 50s and his father since the 20s yet I have to listen to 'City fans' going on about forcing fans who miss games to lose loyalty points are lose their season tickets. Not a chance I will give up my ticket and deny him the pleasure of attending games when he can.

Anyway I hope you remain in good health and do not lose your ticket or receive negative loyalty points like the absurd suggestion of some City fans.

Exaggeration.^^^^^

We're not talking about odd matches, we're talking about using data to show those who just use their ticket to turn up to big games and doing something about it.

The fact you have taken offence to the suggestion and Exaggerated goes to show that those use their ticket casually (not you) might think twice about treating their ticket casually.

As I've said before, I've no problem with them turinng up when they want, but move those people somewhere where there is less demand so that others can use their seat(s). Every home match in the league I wacth on the 80 minute mark and old chap and his wife leave from the top of Colin Bell on level 3 so that they can get out safely. Why can't they have two seats in a lower tier which is empty most of the season?

I would guess those two people could have a ticket lower down but choose not too. Probably becuase there is more a tendency for people to stand in the lower tiers. I do not think the club would be using people to anlayse data on its own fans who have purchased tickets. If they do what then? Write to the person asking why they did not attend, request reasons for absenteeism and do we provide information upfront like a doctors note etc?

Could you imagine going to your GP and asking them to write a letter because you may lose your ticket or loyalty points. It is an impossible system to run fairly. I find it incredible people cannot see this.

All you are going to do is alienate supporters.

Like I said earlier, United do this and no one gives a shit:

<a class="postlink" href="https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/united-suspend-fans-derby-not-buy-olympiacos-tickets-115641432.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pi ... 41432.html</a>