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England finish 4th.
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Dave S
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Spot on.Hes obviously not a team player either,otherwise he would have declared his lack of fitness to the manager.If anything his inclusion is another reason we have underperformed in the last two games.
citizen_maine
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I think you've got Jones in the wrong category :-)The good: Stones, Trippier, Maguire, Pickford, Henderson
The bad: Kane, Alli, Young, Dier, Jones
The ugly: Southgate's attacking system, one of the worst I've ever had the misfortune of watching
mosssideblue
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Former for me I'm afraid. We struggled against poor opposition and were beaten as soon as we met anyone half decentAn over achievement? Or have we missed a glorious opportunity And actually underperformed?
Taking everything into account I'm going with the latter.We had a piss easy group and a relatively straightforward quarter final.We lost to an average Croatia team that, had the manager had his head screwed on,we should have beaten.
Belgium have just simply outclassed us,nothing to be ashamed of there.
Thoughts?
I think Harry Kane is a likeable enough guy and a very good striker on his day but his stock has gone down a lot for me off the back of his finish to the season and his performances in this WC.
I think there's something not right in his head to be honest. He has a very rigid focus on scoring as many goals as possible but he takes it so far that it's holding himself and the teams he plays for back.
He played in a lot of games where he was clearly unfit towards the end of last season in his quest for the golden boot. The hangover from that was clear to see in the WC where he just looked totally knackered and ineffective a lot of the time.
Honestly think he needs to see a sports psychologist or his manager needs to force him the point home that it's not always about how many goals YOU score, it's about the team getting goals when they're actually needed. He's so important to Tottenham (and they're probs also aware he could earn loads more elsewhere) that I think he's been overindulged. He should have been dropped/rested in games last season but they allowed him to carry on in this daft pursuit of the golden boot. Winning stuff like that is nice I'm sure, but it's meaningless when the team is winning nothing.
One writer said recently that he takes so many shots because he works off the theory that missing one means you're more likely to score your next. Maybe if he knocked all that shit on the head he might have squared to Sterling and the England team would have been playing this afternoon.
When he said "I swear on my baby daughter's life that I touched it" after that goal at Stoke, i seriously started to question his mentality.
Finally, I'd also say that even though I don't especially care who is captain, Engalnd had a few players that showed some leadership qualities in this tournament and it would make sense to me to give one of them the captaincy. Kane is too single minded to paly that role and way too peripheral in a lot of the games.
I think there's something not right in his head to be honest. He has a very rigid focus on scoring as many goals as possible but he takes it so far that it's holding himself and the teams he plays for back.
He played in a lot of games where he was clearly unfit towards the end of last season in his quest for the golden boot. The hangover from that was clear to see in the WC where he just looked totally knackered and ineffective a lot of the time.
Honestly think he needs to see a sports psychologist or his manager needs to force him the point home that it's not always about how many goals YOU score, it's about the team getting goals when they're actually needed. He's so important to Tottenham (and they're probs also aware he could earn loads more elsewhere) that I think he's been overindulged. He should have been dropped/rested in games last season but they allowed him to carry on in this daft pursuit of the golden boot. Winning stuff like that is nice I'm sure, but it's meaningless when the team is winning nothing.
One writer said recently that he takes so many shots because he works off the theory that missing one means you're more likely to score your next. Maybe if he knocked all that shit on the head he might have squared to Sterling and the England team would have been playing this afternoon.
When he said "I swear on my baby daughter's life that I touched it" after that goal at Stoke, i seriously started to question his mentality.
Finally, I'd also say that even though I don't especially care who is captain, Engalnd had a few players that showed some leadership qualities in this tournament and it would make sense to me to give one of them the captaincy. Kane is too single minded to paly that role and way too peripheral in a lot of the games.
Blue Maverick
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An enjoyable World Cup that filled the void between premier league seasons, saw some good football and the England ride was good while it lasted. They could only beat what was put in front of them but I believe Southgates inexperience in changing the system in the second half and helping the midfield out cost us the game, probably the only chance we would have had at winning it as well, Lady Luck played its part just not enough. Won’t get to see the game today unfortunately as I’m going watching Little Mix!!
He is playing in front of a very poor England midfield.I think Harry Kane is a likeable enough guy and a very good striker on his day but his stock has gone down a lot for me off the back of his finish to the season and his performances in this WC.
I think there's something not right in his head to be honest. He has a very rigid focus on scoring as many goals as possible but he takes it so far that it's holding himself and the teams he plays for back.
He played in a lot of games where he was clearly unfit towards the end of last season in his quest for the golden boot. The hangover from that was clear to see in the WC where he just looked totally knackered and ineffective a lot of the time.
Honestly think he needs to see a sports psychologist or his manager needs to force him the point home that it's not always about how many goals YOU score, it's about the team getting goals when they're actually needed. He's so important to Tottenham (and they're probs also aware he could earn loads more elsewhere) that I think he's been overindulged. He should have been dropped/rested in games last season but they allowed him to carry on in this daft pursuit of the golden boot. Winning stuff like that is nice I'm sure, but it's meaningless when the team is winning nothing.
One writer said recently that he takes so many shots because he works off the theory that missing one means you're more likely to score your next. Maybe if he knocked all that shit on the head he might have squared to Sterling and the England team would have been playing this afternoon.
When he said "I swear on my baby daughter's life that I touched it" after that goal at Stoke, i seriously started to question his mentality.
Finally, I'd also say that even though I don't especially care who is captain, Engalnd had a few players that showed some leadership qualities in this tournament and it would make sense to me to give one of them the captaincy. Kane is too single minded to paly that role and way too peripheral in a lot of the games.
In the last 3 seasons Kane has scored 25, 29 and now 30 goals in the Premier League. There should be no doubts about his ability.
We've got a bizarre situation where he will almost certainly pick up the golden boot but at the same time this World Cup has perhaps been the first disappointment of his career. I don't think he will have been too happy with his performance. England and Kane's World Cup was distorted by the games against Tunisia and especially Panama.
He's disappointed every year with Spurs' lack of silverware. If he isn't, he should be.He is playing in front of a very poor England midfield.
In the last 3 seasons Kane has scored 25, 29 and now 30 goals in the Premier League. There should be no doubts about his ability.
We've got a bizarre situation where he will almost certainly pick up the golden boot but at the same time this World Cup has perhaps been the first disappointment of his career. I don't think he will have been too happy with his performance. England and Kane's World Cup was distorted by the games against Tunisia and especially Panama.