England Squad - Euro 2024

Have said it before on this thread but the England squad needs a water carrier to sit between Rice and Bellingham - and occasionally behind them - for this team to click how people want it to. Hopefully Wharton has already done enough to be that guy. And, for what it's worth, he's clearly more than a water carrier because he's tall, graceful, and knows how to split the lines. So many passes he played last night where I could just see Foden picking it up with his back to goal and then turning on a dime away from a defender.

Pickford
Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw
Rice, Wharton
Saka, Bellingham, Foden
Kane

That team can win the Euros. But if Southgate tries to squeeze Rice, Bellingham, and Foden into midfield with Saka, Palmer, and Kane up front he can forget about it. England have had this problem for years where they just think all their good attacking players will compensate for a weak foundation. It never works. It didn't work during the 'Golden Generation' under Sven, and it won't work under Southgate. It was especially glaring at Qatar 2022 where they came up against a team of similar ability but has always understood the value of having a guy doing the grunt work in midfield so the better players can shine.

Every time France have reached the World Cup final they've done it by sacrificing a more talented forward player so that a midfielder can come in and stitch everything together. In 1998 (and in the 2000 Euros) it was Deschamps, in 2006 it was Makelele, in 2018 it was Kante, in 2022 it was Rabiot. England have never had that equivalent player in midfield who just stays in the middle, servicing the strikers in possession and mopping up for the defenders when out of possession. Not one of Foden, Bellingham, or Rice wants to do that kind of work but someone like Wharton, Gallagher, even Trent Alexander-Arnold definitely will.
 
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Have said it before on this thread but the England squad needs a water carrier to sit between Rice and Bellingham - and occasionally behind them - for this team to click how people want it to. Hopefully Wharton has already done enough to be that guy. And, for what it's worth, he's clearly more than a water carrier because he's tall, graceful, and knows how to split the lines. So many passes he played last night where I could just see Foden picking it up with his back to goal and then turning on a dime away from a defender.

Pickford
Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw
Rice, Wharton
Saka, Bellingham, Foden
Kane

That team can win the Euros. But if Southgate tries to squeeze Rice, Bellingham, and Foden into midfield with Saka, Palmer, and Kane up front he can forget about it. England have had this problem for years where they just think all their good attacking players will compensate for a weak foundation. It never works. It didn't work during the 'Golden Generation' under Sven, and it won't work under Southgate. It was especially glaring at Qatar 2022 where they came up against a team of similar ability but has always understood the value of having a guy doing the grunt work in midfield so the better players can shine.

Every time France have reached the World Cup final they've done it by sacrificing a more talented forward player so that a midfielder can come in and stitch everything together. In 1998 (and in the 2000 Euros) it was Deschamps, in 2006 it was Makelele, in 2018 it was Kante, in 2022 it was Rabiot. England have never had that equivalent player in midfield who just stays in the middle, servicing the strikers in possession and mopping up for the defenders when out of possession. Not one of Foden, Bellingham, or Rice wants to do that kind of work but someone like Wharton, Gallagher, even Trent Alexander-Arnold definitely will.

Isn't that team the same as the WC but with Wharton instead of Henderson? I do like Wharton though, he looks a cracking player.

As talented as he may be, the problem with Bellingham is that everything has to go through him and it stifles the other players. I'm yet to see Foden and Bellingham really click.
 
Isn't that team the same as the WC but with Wharton instead of Henderson? I do like Wharton though, he looks a cracking player.

As talented as he may be, the problem with Bellingham is that everything has to go through him and it stifles the other players. I'm yet to see Foden and Bellingham really click.
Problem was Southgate played Henderson as an auxiliary right-midfielder for some reason whenever England had the ball, and that Henderson was basically done by that point. The problem England had at the World Cup in 2022 was that Rice had to be the one starting attacks in the centre-circle, but his game hadn't developed enough by then which meant his positioning off the ball was poor and England's moves were stopped before they'd even started. He needs someone to literally just stand next to him and do the grunt work. Whereas Henderson's a Captain and a Leader of Men so he was always off on some run forward or stood in front of Walker. Having someone like Gallagher, TAA, Wharton, whoever, just sat in that pocket between Rice and Bellingham, understanding that their role is to serve others rather than be the hero themselves, could make all the difference. Phillips would have been perfect - like he was for the majority of the 2020 Euros - but he's a broken man, sadly.
 
Have said it before on this thread but the England squad needs a water carrier to sit between Rice and Bellingham - and occasionally behind them - for this team to click how people want it to. Hopefully Wharton has already done enough to be that guy. And, for what it's worth, he's clearly more than a water carrier because he's tall, graceful, and knows how to split the lines. So many passes he played last night where I could just see Foden picking it up with his back to goal and then turning on a dime away from a defender.

Pickford
Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw
Rice, Wharton
Saka, Bellingham, Foden
Kane

That team can win the Euros. But if Southgate tries to squeeze Rice, Bellingham, and Foden into midfield with Saka, Palmer, and Kane up front he can forget about it. England have had this problem for years where they just think all their good attacking players will compensate for a weak foundation. It never works. It didn't work during the 'Golden Generation' under Sven, and it won't work under Southgate. It was especially glaring at Qatar 2022 where they came up against a team of similar ability but has always understood the value of having a guy doing the grunt work in midfield so the better players can shine.

Every time France have reached the World Cup final they've done it by sacrificing a more talented forward player so that a midfielder can come in and stitch everything together. In 1998 (and in the 2000 Euros) it was Deschamps, in 2006 it was Makelele, in 2018 it was Kante, in 2022 it was Rabiot. England have never had that equivalent player in midfield who just stays in the middle, servicing the strikers in possession and mopping up for the defenders when out of possession. Not one of Foden, Bellingham, or Rice wants to do that kind of work but someone like Wharton, Gallagher, even Trent Alexander-Arnold definitely will.
Wharton and Gallagher, probably yes, but Arnold 100% isn't disciplined enough to not go forward and his reading of danger is non-existent as he switches off to often. All IMO of course.
 

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