England Squad - Euro 2024

A few things I don't get.
One is just having Southgate.
2. Trying to squeeze Alexander Arnold into the team.
3 taking luke Shaw.
4 playing the player of the season out of position.
5 tripper at left back.

6 kane doesn't stay up front.
7 Bellingham is a very player but he's a prick.
And finally why does rice need a player to play next to him
Apart from that all is good
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
A few things I don't get.
One is just having Southgate.
2. Trying to squeeze Alexander Arnold into the team.
3 taking luke Shaw.
4 playing the player of the season out of position.
5 tripper at left back.

6 kane doesn't stay up front.
7 Bellingham is a very player but he's a prick.
And finally why does rice need a player to play next to him
Apart from that all is good
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Think 5 might be Peps fault, he has made Southgate think you can take any random player and put them at left back.
 
The number of games by played by top football is taking its toll. We probably wouldn't have won the league if we'd got through to the CL semis.

A lot of players in this tournament are fucked, the final is the 14th July, pre season's abroad at the end of July and early August, our season starts again mid August, minimum 2 extra games in the CL and a month long World Club Championship next June/July with an expanded World Cup the year after.

Enough is enough, we need to get rid of meaningless International friendlies including the Nations League and bin the Community Shield, make the League Cup semi's one legged and go back to 6 group games in the CL.

The quality is suffering as we're seeing in this tournament, the stats between the last World Cup tournament and this Europe one on England alone are staggering with the press and winning the ball back being hugely negative.
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
A few things I don't get.
One is just having Southgate.
2. Trying to squeeze Alexander Arnold into the team.
3 taking luke Shaw.
4 playing the player of the season out of position.
5 tripper at left back.

6 kane doesn't stay up front.
7 Bellingham is a very player but he's a prick.
And finally why does rice need a player to play next to him
Apart from that all is good
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I'd go easy on Trippier. He's the best English left back, along with Shaw. He's not at elite level, but he does his limited best.

Alexander Arnold has to be there as the sole representative of Liverpool, now that Henderson has gone. The fact that he's not a patch on Walker means that the only way we get a Liverpool player on the pitch is to shoehorn him in somehow. Hence this midfield experiment disaster.
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
A few things I don't get.
One is just having Southgate.
2. Trying to squeeze Alexander Arnold into the team.
3 taking luke Shaw.
4 playing the player of the season out of position.
5 tripper at left back.

6 kane doesn't stay up front.
7 Bellingham is a very player but he's a prick.
And finally why does rice need a player to play next to him
Apart from that all is good
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1. Not sure but it’s worked, one of the highest win% and taking us to QF/SF/F of major tournaments
2. Hard not too, he’s a class player and has alot of different attributes to others- probably the best passer/long ranger passer and set piece player in the side
3. Really? Only left footed good left back we have.
4. As opposed to playing the possible ballon d’or player out of position?
5. Shaw is not fit - who should it be? Trippier has done well there
6. He drops deep naturally - wanting the ball. Sometimes that works. Sometimes doesn’t
7. Yes he is. From what I’ve seen in interviews and stuff he seems a down to earth lad - why the hate ? He’s a 20 year old ffs. Rice by himself could work, or not at international stage.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
1. Not sure but it’s worked, one of the highest win% and taking us to QF/SF/F of major tournaments
2. Hard not too, he’s a class player and has alot of different attributes to others- probably the best passer/long ranger passer and set piece player in the side
3. Really? Only left footed good left back we have.
4. As opposed to playing the possible ballon d’or player out of position?
5. Shaw is not fit - who should it be? Trippier has done well there
6. He drops deep naturally - wanting the ball. Sometimes that works. Sometimes doesn’t
7. Yes he is. From what I’ve seen in interviews and stuff he seems a down to earth lad - why the hate ? He’s a 20 year old ffs. Rice by himself could work, or not at international stage.
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2 is a useful skill to have seeing as the left winger is playing inside
 
BlueHammer85 said:
1. Not sure but it’s worked, one of the highest win% and taking us to QF/SF/F of major tournaments
2. Hard not too, he’s a class player and has alot of different attributes to others- probably the best passer/long ranger passer and set piece player in the side
3. Really? Only left footed good left back we have.
4. As opposed to playing the possible ballon d’or player out of position?
5. Shaw is not fit - who should it be? Trippier has done well there
6. He drops deep naturally - wanting the ball. Sometimes that works. Sometimes doesn’t
7. Yes he is. From what I’ve seen in interviews and stuff he seems a down to earth lad - why the hate ? He’s a 20 year old ffs. Rice by himself could work, or not at international stage.
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1. So, he's been 4th, 2nd, and 1st loser? Yes?
2. He's been shunted out of his "favourite" position in his club side because of his defensive shortcomings. The position he's been taught how to play in for a long time. Only imbeciles believe just having a sweet right foot makes you a midfielder.
3. Even a mediocre left footed left back is better than a decent right footed right back at left back.
4. That's not his position. He's a deeper player for his club, and to be fair he's still finding his feet in that side. He can move up and down the ctr to suit. Foden has shown where he is effective.
5. You need to define "doing well". His delivery into the box is non-existent. I struggle to understand what his remit is.
6. He is lost because the team heading towards him is so disjointed its like playing in a zombie apocalypse. If the players behind him don't know what they are doing, or where they are supposed to be, how the feck would kane know?
7. He's had one good half in four. I'm getting "trouble" vibes from him. Maybe I'm wrong, but my spider sense are tingling.
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
1. Not sure but it’s worked, one of the highest win% and taking us to QF/SF/F of major tournaments
2. Hard not too, he’s a class player and has alot of different attributes to others- probably the best passer/long ranger passer and set piece player in the side
3. Really? Only left footed good left back we have.
4. As opposed to playing the possible ballon d’or player out of position?
5. Shaw is not fit - who should it be? Trippier has done well there
6. He drops deep naturally - wanting the ball. Sometimes that works. Sometimes doesn’t
7. Yes he is. From what I’ve seen in interviews and stuff he seems a down to earth lad - why the hate ? He’s a 20 year old ffs. Rice by himself could work, or not at international stage.
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Point 3.
He's not fit
 
Paladin said:
I'd go easy on Trippier. He's the best English left back, along with Shaw. He's not at elite level, but he does his limited best.
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I don’t think even Trippier or the most die hard Newcastle fan would claim he’s the best LB. For one, he plays RB for them and is right footed. He’s probably 5th in the Newcastle LB depth chart after Burn, Hall, Targett and Dummett. All Englishmen btw. Aaron Chilwell who is currently fully fit and wasn’t called up for the England squad has played more games at LB than any of the players standing in (Trippier, Gomez) for Shaw. Real head scratcher.

I agree with going easy on Trippier though. He seems like a sound bloke doing his best in a wholly unfamiliar position, and can be a calming influence at the back.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
1. Not sure but it’s worked, one of the highest win% and taking us to QF/SF/F of major tournaments
2. Hard not too, he’s a class player and has alot of different attributes to others- probably the best passer/long ranger passer and set piece player in the side
3. Really? Only left footed good left back we have.
4. As opposed to playing the possible ballon d’or player out of position?
5. Shaw is not fit - who should it be? Trippier has done well there
6. He drops deep naturally - wanting the ball. Sometimes that works. Sometimes doesn’t
7. Yes he is. From what I’ve seen in interviews and stuff he seems a down to earth lad - why the hate ? He’s a 20 year old ffs. Rice by himself could work, or not at international stage.
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Has it worked? One of the best squads for quite some time. He’s been here for 8 years and if anything we have gone backwards.
We can talk about getting further than we have before, and that’s true. And he has provided England fans with good memories.
But if we are honest we have arguably underperformed, and encounter the same issues every tournament.

If you compare it to domestic football, it’s almost like a good PL side having a FA Cup run against league 1 sides every year, then coming short any time they have a half decent side, with the same mistakes every single time.

You could look at the Germany game in the last Euros as the one time we have beaten a decent nation, but even then it was the worst German team in years.

Re Bellingham and Foden. He’s played at false 9 really for RM and scored fewer goals than Phil. And even so, his average position for England has been as deep as the 2 DMs. We would lose nothing from him pushing back, putting Phil at 10, and Gordon on the left.
 
Southsafe will bring in Mainoo for Arnold and Gordon for Phil. We will draw and Denmark will beat Serbia 3-1 to win the group.

Come late Saturday evening in Dortmund, Germany will have cruised past a disorganised hopeless England 2-0 who will go out with a whimper without a shot on target.

Southgate will naturally continue in his role towards a glorious 2026 in the Americas!
 
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