England V Italy, Quarter Final 2012 (merged)

Re: hodgson

Damocles said:
J3SUS said:
Damocles said:
They're all different moulds to be fair.

Both Gerrard and Barry can run games for England, Rooney when he fancies it can make an impact too or Lampard if he's picked.

wilshere has the potential, he did not look out of place against xavi and iniesta against barca last year.

This is our bigger problem, we hugely overrated players in our team based off a handful of performances. Wilshere has done nothing, and proved nothing. He's a kid and should be way behind proven talents until he's had a few years at the top.

he is only young,and has been rather unfortunate with injury. he did get arsenal player of the season during his first full season with them.
 
Damocles said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
Blue Haze said:
Just posting for laughs. Well, at least I thought the "only Messi and Ronaldo are better" shit is hilarious.
The thing is you know fuck all about the game apart from all things City.
No offence like.

Cool it, there's no need for that
You are kidding? No need for what?
Get a grip.
 
southern muppet said:
intheknow! said:
Witney Blue said:
Yes great mate let's consign those thousands/millions who died to the dustbin and forget everything about it.


We do need to forget this now and move on. English people and German people have much more that unites us than divides us. We are all Europeans.

Exactly. It doesn't mean forget the people who died, it just means stop still mentally (and verbally) using it to put modern day countries in adversarial positions, needlessly.

Germany is easily a more progressive country than England now. They're proud of their cities, our are hovels. If I had the choice, I know where I would go.<br /><br />-- Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:10 am --<br /><br />
ultimateharold said:
southern muppet said:
intheknow! said:
We do need to forget this now and move on. English people and German people have much more that unites us than divides us. We are all Europeans.

Exactly. It doesn't mean forget the people who died, it just means stop still mentally (and verbally) using it to put modern day countries in adversarial positions, needlessly.

Germany is easily a more progressive country than England now. They're proud of their cities, our are hovels. If I had the choice, I know where I would go.

The Sun exists for example.
 
Im not an england basher, i want my country to do well but that would have been a travesty had we put out italy tonight. How Carroll was allowed on the same pitch as Pirlo is an insult to football. Rooney and Young were dogshit too.
The defence was strong and the back 5 can hold their heads high, but the forwards were dire (wellbeck excepted, i thought he played well and shouldnt have been taken off). As soon as we reverted to hoof ball, the game was lost. The technical gap between the 2 teams was embarrassing. The english national side is declining rapidly and i think we're going to slip in to obscurity for the next decade. ITs a good job we lost tonight because i dread to think what would have happened against germany.
 
Truth is, QF is just about the level and has been for a long time. Top 8 in Europe and top 12 maybe in the world. A few good players sometimes, a good manager now and then, but that doesn't change the basics.

Reaching the QF was about what to expect.

Team clearly needs change in a lot of areas over the next two years though ....
 
Defence functioned well but the rest of team were really poor, might sound crazy but would have liked to seen Crouch/Johnson and of course Richards in the side
 
Cheesy said:
English players who weren't actually shit during the tournament...

Hart
Terry
Johnson (Richards is still better!)
Lescott

I think that's about it.
This, TBF, footballing-wise I thought Terry should have had the armband. Now you gotta play fookin' Gerrard every match!
 

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