England v USA – Fri 25th Nov, 19:00 | Group B | World Cup 2022

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Sorry, but England fans as a whole, are the Dippers of the international world

No, that's a really outdated generalisation.

 

[Jesus2020]

Trying to see the positives from this aside from bringing on Henderson to protect a 0-0 against a team of players that would be like an FA cup prem team against lower league?

We get through against teams not as good as what's to come. Then we've got Foden type players fresh to do the damage against these teams in the later stages?

 

[city2]

England have always flattened to deceive, Southgate is out of his league that’s the top and bottom. And we ain’t winning this years World Cup so let’s stop the pretence and acknowledge we are collectively shite.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Spent about 45 minutes in Tenerife once while the VC-10 was being refuelled.

There was a collision between 2 aircraft on the runway there.
583 were killed including a friends' parents.
The worst air accident in aviation history.

 

[paulchapo]

There was a collision between 2 aircraft on the runway there.
583 were killed including a friends' parents.
The worst air accident in aviation history.

Yes Tenerife north, horrific.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

There was a collision between 2 aircraft on the runway there.
583 were killed including a friends' parents.
The worst air accident in aviation history.

I'd forgotten about that. I remember reading about it years ago.

Horrific.

 

[idahoblues]

There was a collision between 2 aircraft on the runway there.
583 were killed including a friends' parents.
The worst air accident in aviation history.

I remember it well, unfortunately

 

[burning blue soul]

Well, at least the thread topic mood has lifted on here now. I was expecting it to be moribund and pessimistic, still.

 

[gman07]

I still fume after that lacklustre performance... I get it was important not to lose... but my god the win must be more important the first 70 min.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

Initially I thought we were being spoiled because in Pep we have the best footballing manager on the planet. Flair, style, entertainment - all essential ingredients to Pep's successful recipes.
But then after maybe 15 minutes last night I realised the futility of making comparisons between the two: one is a master chef and the other, if he made a slice of toast it would have bones in it.

What we saw last night was as inept a performance from professional footballers as we are every likely to witness. And it is going to get worse.
Hodgson had his favourites, and didn't we just know it? The man who once famously remarked: "If Wooney had a bwoken leg he'd still be the first name on the sheet." And now Southgate is carrying on this tradition of building teams around his favourite players.
To see Phil sitting there on the sub's bench while the consistently ineffective Henderson strolled about, waving his arms, shouting, and making sideways passes was enough to convince me that Southgate has some kind of vendetta against our man. What, and why, we'll probably never know: but nothing else explains the Waistcoat's apparent reluctance to put him on the pitch and let him do his thing.

GS is ultimately a coward so he will bow to pressure and use Phil on Tuesday……but maybe only as sub the last 20 mins, so that when he doesn’t score everyone will see GS was right and we were all wrong………

A coward in thought and deed…