England vs Romania | Sunday 6th June 2021

[iceman]

Bbc breakfast no mention of arrogant Hendersons antics

 

[ctwrd]

We go to football to escape the everyday realities of our lives.
With this in mind, I don't believe that political demonstrations have any place on our sports fields.
Remembrance Sunday is fine.
A silence/applause for the passing of a respected figure in the game is fine too.
'Taking the knee' doesn't set the right atmosphere for the match to be played in.
For me it is time this practise ceased, sports fields are for sport.
Not everyone will agree with me I know, but I exercise my right to free speech.

I am interested who it is aimed at? Is it the fans in the crowd or those watching on tv? If neither of those then who?
If either the fans in the crowd or those watching on tv then surely what the players are doing is saying to those fans/viewers “you guys are racists and need educating”.
if anyone can tell me that it’s actually something they really meant to last this long then please do.
Personally, I think it got to the stage very quickly where they felt like they had to carry it on because of what woke media backlash they might get when they stop doing it.
It’s become just like lining up for the crap premier league theme tune. Part of the routine.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Now that Dier has been toe-ended we cannot continue to say "Dier is playing"; we have to say "The play is dire!"

 

[domalino]

We go to football to escape the everyday realities of our lives.
With this in mind, I don't believe that political demonstrations have any place on our sports fields.
Remembrance Sunday is fine.
A silence/applause for the passing of a respected figure in the game is fine too.
'Taking the knee' doesn't set the right atmosphere for the match to be played in.
For me it is time this practise ceased, sports fields are for sport.
Not everyone will agree with me I know, but I exercise my right to free speech.

Don't go to the fucking match then.

It's not a surprise to anyone that the players were going to kneel, if them making a gesture against racism for 7 seconds is too much for you to bear when trying to escape your "every day realities", don't go.

Not everyone will agree with me I know, but I exercise my right to free speech.

This is a classic. "I'm just exercising my right to free speech when I tell you not to use your right to free speech!!!"

 

[Postman Pep]

We go to football to escape the everyday realities of our lives.
With this in mind, I don't believe that political demonstrations have any place on our sports fields.
Remembrance Sunday is fine.
A silence/applause for the passing of a respected figure in the game is fine too.
'Taking the knee' doesn't set the right atmosphere for the match to be played in.
For me it is time this practise ceased, sports fields are for sport.
Not everyone will agree with me I know, but I exercise my right to free speech.

Maybe the players should boo the fans for every rendition of 'no surrender' ... or '10 German bombers' or '2 world wars 1 world cup'?

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

Not a fan then ?

Thought it was a fairly accurate summary myself. I would added that he was on the pitch along with Rashford because Southgate is supporting their social care work

 

[FantasyIreland]

Bullshit!
Bit more complicated than that.
Some probably are racist, but others are fed up with people taking the knee because a guy in America was murdered by a policeman, which essentially is what it’s about to them.
What exactly is the message?
What is the aim?
When are we going to know if it’s making a difference?

I suspect the vast majority are fully behind the anti racism message,but not the gesture.
Irrespective of what the FA state,gven its Political connotations and association with a murdered criminal,it has always been a controversial and divisive action.It now looks like its doing more harm than good as disharmony has entered our grounds,the atmosphere will be negative/toxic and that energy will be affecting the players.

Would a different gesture make a difference? i'm not convinced.......as the racists amongst us won't stop being that way because of the players displaying an action of solidarity.Its part of a persons makeup and engrained in their character,so i'm not sure where the answer lies?

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

Dont forget ‘Hendo’ anchoring the midfield

Henderson the anchor

 

[M12Blue]

Bullshit!
Bit more complicated than that.
Some probably are racist, but others are fed up with people taking the knee because a guy in America was murdered by a policeman, which essentially is what it’s about to them.
What exactly is the message?
What is the aim?
When are we going to know if it’s making a difference?

Sorry my point was why boo it. If you think the average football fan boos the taking of the knee because they no longer agree it strikes the right chord and are merely sending a message to the players and FA that they're are better ways of impacting on racism then each to their own.
Please don't respond as I can't be arsed with you.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Sorry my point was why boo it. If you think the average football fan boos the taking of the knee because they no longer agree it strikes the right chord and are merely sending a message to the players and FA that they're are better ways of impacting on racism then each to their own.
Please don't respond as I can't be arsed with you.

ultimately the more it continues the more it will get booed, and the more people try to suppress the booing the more vociferous it will become. "Human" nature.