Enzo Fernandez

Tugay One Cup said:
Enzo topping Chelsea's distance covered charts isn't impressive.

They're the laziest team in the league and got out run in every game this season other than their recent draw against Liverpool.

12km is the bare minimum you'd get from Bernardo, with him often covering over 13. Enzo's peak is 11.6 and he averages 9.6 in Europe.
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Comparing anyone's work rate to Bernardo is ridiculous. No one works harder than him
 
IrishBloodEnglishHeart said:
Comparing anyone's work rate to Bernardo is ridiculous. No one works harder than him
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I'm comparing Enzo's maximum to Bernardo's minimum.

Bernardo plays his last game for us today and if the guy coming in to replace him can't keep up with him on his worst day then someone else is going to have to cover the yards.

Even with Bernardo in the team, legs in midfield have been a recurring issue for us over the last two seasons. Enzo Fernandez will not help us in that regard.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
I'm comparing Enzo's maximum to Bernardo's minimum.

Bernardo plays his last game for us today and if the guy coming in to replace him can't keep up with him on his worst day then someone else is going to have to cover the yards.

Even with Bernardo in the team, legs in midfield have been a recurring issue for us over the last two seasons. Enzo Fernandez will not help us in that regard.
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Okay mate. I've literally shown he's not lazy by stats, I'm not gonna argue about it haha
 
Gumzy97 said:
I’m not pushing for Enzo I don’t want him but there’s some things that stats don’t show such as Foden in midfield getting shoved to the ground more and losing the physical battle more this season semi final I can bring up as an example he was in his own half and got pushed off The ball like it was nothing.

Where as Enzo is more physically strong holds his own in midfield will cheat by falling down but when he wants to hold the ball up he can. It’s why in the Argentine national team he’s a starter in midfield to protect Messi.

Our problem in the middle this season was against physical midfields we get out muscled. Villa away an example, with either Elliot Anderson or Enzo Fernandez in our midfield next season we’d have a More sturdy and physical midfield.
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That's also not true

Enzo lost MORE duels p90 than Foden did in the league.

So even the Enzo is physically stronger doesnt hold up.

Maybe The Enzo is a cheat at falling down ans getting a foul is true, but I dont rate cheaters obviously.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
You posted some stats and I provided the context. They don't show what you think they do.

And I'm not saying he's lazy, I'm just saying he doesn't cover enough ground.
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You've not provided context haha. You've just compared him with Bernardo. Not sure why you're getting so emotional over a player we'll likely not sign
 
IrishBloodEnglishHeart said:
Where has this lazy bit come from?

"Enzo Fernández consistently tops the distance covered charts among Chelsea's outfield players, covering the most pitch distance overall this season.

Enzo is averaging one of the highest distance-covered-per-90-minute rates among Chelsea's outfield players. In highly competitive matchups, he frequently breaches the 11.6 km mark per game.

Off-Ball Runs: He ranks among the very best in the Premier League for total "expected threat" (xT) added via his off-ball movements, actively carrying the ball from low-threat to high-threat zones"
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It's come from "lazy" agendas...
 
Certainly going to be a busy summer, one we really haven’t seen in years.

Is he a good player? Yes of course. We looked at him before he moved to Europe as well.

Does he fit the system? Well that will change under Maresca, not much but we need to wait and see.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
You started talking about how Enzo covers more ground than any other Chelsea player.

I added that Chelsea cover less ground than anyone in the league.

That's context.
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I replied to a comment that said he was lazy, proving he's not. All you've done is comparing him to Bernardo. Providing context is comparing him to the average Premier League player. Go for it..
 
IrishBloodEnglishHeart said:
I replied to a comment that said he was lazy, proving he's not. All you've done is comparing him to Bernardo. Providing context is comparing him to the average Premier League player. Go for it..
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According to Google, the average distance covered by a Premier League central midfielder is between 11 and 12.5km a match. If that's correct then he's at the lower end of average.

And that's about as much effort as I'm willing to put into this.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
According to Google, the average distance covered by a Premier League central midfielder is between 11 and 12.5km a match. If that's correct then he's at the lower end of average.

And that's about as much effort as I'm willing to put into this.
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So he's within average then. I think you wanted to have an argument because you're being emotional about not wanting to sign a player, so just dug even deeper. You've literally just proven he's not lazy and covers the average distance in the League.

The end
 
IrishBloodEnglishHeart said:
So he's within average then. I think you wanted to have an argument because you're being emotional about not wanting to sign a player, so just dug even deeper. You've literally just proven he's not lazy and covers the average distance in the League.

The end
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It's not that deep mate.

You said he covered the most ground out of any Chelsea player. I thought it was worth adding that Chelsea cover less ground than any other team in the league.

That should have been the end of it. It was a relevant point that expanded on something you had said to someone else. It wasn't a challenge to a pissing contest.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
It's not that deep mate.

You said he covered the most ground out of any Chelsea player. I thought it was worth adding that Chelsea cover less ground than any other team in the league.

That should have been the end of it. It was a relevant point that expanded on something you had said to someone else. It wasn't a challenge to a pissing contest.
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I know it's not haha that's why I can't understand why you're getting emotional over the fact I've proven he isn't lazy. That was the comment I was responding to.

You're not some higher power that has the right to get the last word.
 
Guy who sings racist songs about Black players should have no place on this team. When we look back on the Maresca era, this will be this will be the glaring first sign of steep decline from Pep.
 
We’ve never had a huge number of players that opposition fans despised,he would be one I’d agree with them. Can’t stand the bloke even without the racism. Add that to the fact he really isn’t that good.
 
Not on the scale of Enzo Fernandes; but we had a little bit with the Bernardo Silva and Benjamin Mendy tweet who had recieved a fine and a suspension due to it.
 
Oh fucking no way. I hate the little rat **** and he is definitely not the sort of player our dressing room would tolerate. We’re losing some big names this summer and there is a risk of unbalancing the dressing room.
 
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