Erling Haaland

[Coatigan]

Pep is far better but Klopp is very comparable, different type of coach but still produces results sadly.

Ok fair enough, comparable.

(In the same way Jordan Henderson is comparable with Debruyne.)

 

[TonyM]

I don't like Klopp. He really strikes me as a horrible person who thinks he is fooling everyone into thinking he is funny and decent. He isn't codding us all though.

I don't mind Tuchel or Conte. They don't seem deceptive and what you see seems fair if a bit fiery.

I very much like Pep. He is very honest and very decent. He doesn't have the same charisma as Keegan or Mancini. But I respect him and admire him like no one else. And I think he is very nice guy.

Who is a better manager is just as subjective. They are all in different situations. Best for us though surely could be no one but Pep. How he has improved players is amazing and the execution of the style of play is almost faultless. I dread the day he leaves.

 

[blue oli]

I don't like Klopp. He really strikes me as a horrible person who thinks he is fooling everyone into thinking he is funny and decent. He isn't codding us all though.

I don't mind Tuchel or Conte. They don't seem deceptive and what you see seems fair if a bit fiery.

I very much like Pep. He is very honest and very decent. He doesn't have the same charisma as Keegan or Mancini. But I respect him and admire him like no one else. And I think he is very nice guy.

Who is a better manager is just as subjective. They are all in different situations. Best for us though surely could be no one but Pep. How he has improved players is amazing and the execution of the style of play is almost faultless. I dread the day he leaves.

Klopp is that guy at work who is always nice to your face but stabs you in the back to make sure he gets his way, then carries on smiling at you.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Klopp is that guy at work who is always nice to your face but stabs you in the back to make sure he gets his way, then carries on smiling at you.

Spot on

Klipperty is one of the Ojays

 

[MadchesterCity]

Pellegrini’s last season was sabotaged by the pending arrival of Pep; it was performing way below its natural level, even factoring in the advancing age of certain players. There was still an unprecedented depth of elite quality here - probably 5 of the top 20 players the league has seen all in the same team at once. It needed reinforcements, but Guardiola bought players for the bench that would be key players in most first 11’s in the league. He should have won what he has here, and probably more.

That 2014 Liverpool team was carried to a title challenge by the attacking trident of Suarez, Sturridge and Sterlingby the time Klopp got there, Suarez and Sterling had forced moves, and Sturridge was crocked.

Klopp also inherited terrible fullbacks in Clyne and Moreno; Pep addressed it by spending about £200m on them to find solutions, while Klopp converted an academy midfielder and brought in an £8m signing from a relegated club, and made them the most effective pair in Europe and catalysts of their overachievement.

Do you not think Klopp could have matched or even eclipsed what Pep has done here? I’d say fewer Carabao cups, but compensated for by European success.

It seems your default (and shared) dislike for Liverpool as a club is obscuring your subjective view of what Klopp’s achieved there.

Klopp is a ****, Liverpool are the ultimate **** collection

 

[OB1]

Klopp got to two Champions League finals with a Liverpool squad that had Karius, Lovren, Origi, and Shaqiri featuring, plus one with a flawed Dortmund side - 4 in 6 years with the depth of quality we have had in that period is a very real possibility.

You have to separate coach from the club; Liverpool are a horrible club, but the Klopp style and project from a sporting standpoint deserves respect; as soon as he goes, they’re back to fighting for top 4. When Pep leaves here, we win just as much if not more, IMO.

Klopp could have taken the easier jobs that Pep has - Bayern, here, plus PSG, Real, Barcelona and the perpetually open chequebook at Old Trafford and collected the default trophies that those clubs do, which would have led to him being unanimously regarded as the best coach of the past 10 years.

Go back to Rag Cafe because I don’t think Haaland will come here? Raiola won’t allow him to come to a club where he’d be locked in - our top players are almost obliged to do a decade, while PSG seem to take any bids for theirs as a declaration of war on Qatar, so he won’t be joining either.

Do you think we’d allow him to sign for anything less than 5/6 years or with a buyout clause? I’d don’t think Real would either, so his next club will be a stepping stone to Spain - Mino will want at least two substantial payments out of him. Bayern might agree to strengthen their monopoly in Germany for a few more seasons and then replace him whoever Dortmund discover in the meantime, while United would gladly take him for the short term #hashtagability for the duration of Rangnick’s tenure, then shift him on for £100m+.

Ronaldo is Haaland’s idol, so being able to play with him will probably appeal to him despite the fact he’s allegedly a Leeds fan who also has a soft spot for City, and ultimately his dad is aboard the Raiola gravy train, so will push for whatever will earn the family the most. He was close to joining them from Salzburg, and many perceived the fact he’d worked with Solskjaer as what almost facilitated it; I think it’s more likely that knowing what a shite manager he is pushed him towards Dortmund instead. Now that obstacle us clear, I think it’ll happen.

I wonder if Haaland thinks his career should be dictated by Raiola's wishes.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

I thought this was the Haaland thread but I think it's turned into a Pep wankfest : /

 

[OB1]

I don't like Klopp. He really strikes me as a horrible person who thinks he is fooling everyone into thinking he is funny and decent. He isn't codding us all though.

I don't mind Tuchel or Conte. They don't seem deceptive and what you see seems fair if a bit fiery.

I very much like Pep. He is very honest and very decent. He doesn't have the same charisma as Keegan or Mancini. But I respect him and admire him like no one else. And I think he is very nice guy.

Who is a better manager is just as subjective. They are all in different situations. Best for us though surely could be no one but Pep. How he has improved players is amazing and the execution of the style of play is almost faultless. I dread the day he leaves.

Pep doesn't have the charisma of Keegan or Mancini! Be interesting to know what players who played for Mancini and Pep think. The way City's current players show devotion to Pep suggests that Pep has plenty of genuine charisma.

 

[Phil1]

I thought this was the Haaland thread but I think it's turned into a Pep wankfest : /

Why don’t you give your thoughts on Haaland then to get it back on track.
God forbid anybody should feel the need to defend our manager when a fuckwit wum is allowed free reign to make digs at him in every post.

 

[St.Pauli support]

Klopp is that guy at work who is always nice to your face but stabs you in the back to make sure he gets his way, then carries on smiling at you.

Klopp - always nice??
Klopp is the complete opposite, somehow very typical German and therefore not too sympathetic in different cultures of communication:

he comes straight to the point and tells you the toughest truth right in your face
if you like it or not. He wants to solve any problems quickly and not be bothered any longer.

But he's doing it behind closed doors or on the training ground, not in the public.

In the next moment he wants to be the nice pub bloke laughing with you through the night as HIS problem with you has been addressed and solved - from HIS point of view.