Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

I’mx sure that’s the way the club look at it but other clubs are slowly beginning to facilitate their supporters a little bit more, whereas ours a disengaging more and more. The amount of empty seats this season is dispiriting. A full house would undoubtedly lift the atmosphere in my opinion whereas seeing dozens of empties in every block adds to the general apathy around the ground.
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Can you give us some examples that you have from these other clubs ?
Interested in this.
 
I’mx sure that’s the way the club look at it but other clubs are slowly beginning to facilitate their supporters a little bit more, whereas ours a disengaging more and more. The amount of empty seats this season is dispiriting. A full house would undoubtedly lift the atmosphere in my opinion whereas seeing dozens of empties in every block adds to the general apathy around the ground.

Can you give us some examples that you have from these other clubs ?
Interested in this.
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Liverpool charge £9 for kids and put a portion of tickets to one side for local people also for £9. United are working with the TRA to create and expand the atmosphere section, both those clubs have slashed food and drink prices to get people inside the ground earlier, thus easing the pressures with the new digital ticketing systems. Everton have made it so that an adult and child ticket combined won’t cost more than £50, it’s £80 for an adult and child to watch City v Wolves and when the cat A games roll round it’s over £100. Most clubs actively encourage getting kids in the ground whereas City seem to want to keep them out.
 
There’s about 51,500 tickets sold so far, presuming Wolves have sold out their end, with a couple of days to go I’d reckon we’ll shift another 800 at least. Likely to be 52k-52.5k there.

The ground doesn’t hold 55000 for league games, segregation around the ground knocks it down a bit.
The new capacity is around 53,000 since the new advertisng boards went in.
 
Yes. 51k-53.5k is good for these sorts of games, against B and A list games we sell out, so the club are relatively happy I’d imagine.

£50 is too much tho in terms of making people pay it, we don’t have to do everything commercially focused.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd love to pay less for my ticket, and I'd love to make football more accessible for more people. I'm just not convinced that it is necessarily as simple as making tickets cheaper means that you get more fans in who make more noise.
 
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd love to pay less for my ticket, and I'd love to make football more accessible for more people. I'm just not convinced that it is necessarily as simple as making tickets cheaper means that you get more fans in who make more noise.
There’s a couple of lads I know charging £85 for complete viewing of pretty every city game including cups, £35 fire fire stick and £50 for what ever magic they do to it for 12 months viewing.
put that with a trip to Aldi £10 spent on the booze and there you go another empty seat.‘I’m not saying this is why we struggle to fill the place and create an atmosphere but it could be contributing to it.And it’s definitely not just a problem we have either.
 
There’s a couple of lads I know charging £85 for complete viewing of pretty every city game including cups, £35 fire fire stick and £50 for what ever magic they do to it for 12 months viewing.
put that with a trip to Aldi £10 spent on the booze and there you go another empty seat.‘I’m not saying this is why we struggle to fill the place and create an atmosphere but it could be contributing to it.And it’s definitely not just a problem we have either.
It's definitely one factor. The wider point is that if you're 20 years old you have the entire world of entertainment at a touch of a button, and you don't have to get up early and out in the cold to do it, football is one entertainment choice among many. I hated the super league idea, but the basic point that younger fans don't want to watch City vs Wolves in person, they want to watch Kevin De Bruyne vs Messi on telly, is probably closer to the truth than match going fans would like to accept. Cheaper tickets maybe allows for a handful of fans to come to a couple more games per season, but I'm not convinced that it creates new fans per se.
 
It's definitely one factor. The wider point is that if you're 20 years old you have the entire world of entertainment at a touch of a button, and you don't have to get up early and out in the cold to do it, football is one entertainment choice among many. I hated the super league idea, but the basic point that younger fans don't want to watch City vs Wolves in person, they want to watch Kevin De Bruyne vs Messi on telly, is probably closer to the truth than match going fans would like to accept. Cheaper tickets maybe allows for a handful of fans to come to a couple more games per season, but I'm not convinced that it creates new fans per se.
I’m not saying that the modern world isn’t a contributing factor but when the likes of Burnley and Norwich returned all their tickets in the top tier City put them on sale at £30 and they sold. Price it sensibly and the demand is there.
 
The common consensus is…..If footballers were paid sensible wages and fans paid sensible admission prices then there’d be no disconnect. Personally I’m not that arsed about how much footballers earn or how much my season ticket is as I can afford it thankfully but if you ask anybody why they stopped going to the match and 9/10 say it’s too dear and the money in the game has ruined it for them. The other 1 will say it’s too sterile.
 
It's definitely one factor. The wider point is that if you're 20 years old you have the entire world of entertainment at a touch of a button, and you don't have to get up early and out in the cold to do it, football is one entertainment choice among many. I hated the super league idea, but the basic point that younger fans don't want to watch City vs Wolves in person, they want to watch Kevin De Bruyne vs Messi on telly, is probably closer to the truth than match going fans would like to accept. Cheaper tickets maybe allows for a handful of fans to come to a couple more games per season, but I'm not convinced that it creates new fans per se.
I agree bb , most young lads I know go because of dad or mum saying we’re going to the match because that’s what we did . I know of one young lad who’s city mad and his dad takes him his dads no interest in football but to be fair takes him when they can afford to . I have no answer to what the club can do to be honest. It’s not a charity it’s a business but maybe they could do like a shops do in like a loss leader to enhance people. It’s just a shame that many are missing out in the clubs new golden era .
 

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