hence my postBut the biggest issue is the rest of the ground not being up for it. Some grounds have one main stand, a stand of the more quiet and boring fans. At City we’ve developed 3 ½ main stands and a small vocal section. The small vocal section need some fucking help from the rest!
But also, if we had a proper vocal stand set-up, it would be more conducive to an atmosphere. Great numbers, greater noise, not hard to hear in the rest of the ground, not trapped between areas where the atmosphere doesn’t spread, not oversung by the away fanshence my post
the rest of the ground can't be arsed
apart from the singing sections
my post before
when the ground wants to
we can and do make it happen
but most games can't be arsed
stand up for the champions seems to buck the trend
probably cos if a few stand up ,people behind lose sight of the pitch ,so everyone stands and joins in !
i read last night a bit pissedBut also, if we had a proper vocal stand set-up, it would be more conducive to an atmosphere. Great numbers, greater noise, not hard to hear in the rest of the ground, not trapped between areas where the atmosphere doesn’t spread, not oversung by the away fans
As someone who sits in the “rest of the stadium” I can tell you that many will sing as long as they feel comfortable. If the song that starts behind the goal is a classic song and not a concourse clap along, and it is loud enough, many will join in. But if the two singing sections are both singing different songs at the same time they won’t. It’s that simple.It’s alright when the whole ground is up for it.
But when they aren’t, the stadium set-up is an issue.
When it’s just our little vocal areas that have to try and make noise for ten times their amount of people, with them being trapped in a small tier between the away fans and the Colin Bell stand and under a corporate section… the set-up isn’t conducive for an atmosphere.
Our vocal section is probably in the #1 worst place it could possibly be in, in the stadium. Other areas of the ground don’t quite hear what they’re singing sometimes, other times the away fans are also singing and are just as loud, other times they’ve finished singing by the time the rest of the ground join in.
But the biggest issue is the rest of the ground not being up for it. Some grounds have one main stand, a stand of the more quiet and boring fans. At City we’ve developed 3 ½ main stands and a small vocal section. The small vocal section need some fucking help from the rest!
when ss level 3 was builtThe simple fact is, the club in it's quest to increase matchday revenue has created more corporate areas and expensive seats inside the stadium where people don't want to sing and won't sing. The corporate 'matchday experience' inside the stadium has had a negative effect on the matchday atmosphere.
Saying that, there's still enough canon fodder on the L1 frontline trenches to creat an atmosphere.
As someone who sits in the “rest of the stadium” I can tell you that many will sing as long as they feel comfortable. If the song that starts behind the goal is a classic song and not a concourse clap along, and it is loud enough, many will join in. But if the two singing sections are both singing different songs at the same time they won’t. It’s that simple.
But also, if we had a proper vocal stand set-up, it would be more conducive to an atmosphere. Great numbers, greater noise, not hard to hear in the rest of the ground, not trapped between areas where the atmosphere doesn’t spread, not oversung by the away fans
Last time I sung in SSL3 the old git behind me told me "it's not a choir".when ss level 3 was built
only existing season card holders were allowed to buy season cards
me and my son moved from the " dead and sterile " family stand
I thought and hoped it would be full of raucous and niosy fans
it was the first season ( 2015 if I'm right ) and as now descended into apathy
like most of the ground.
there can be no excuses
if we want,we can rock like fuck
but sadly our match going fanbase cant be arsed 95% of the time.
When you’re in the area that creates the atmosphere, it always sounds good when that area is particularly vocal.
SSL1 were good. Then 109-111 were good, with splashes of people dotted about here and there.
The rest of the ground was awful. And, as always, there aren’t enough people in 109-111 and SSL1 to make it sound like it’s a good atmosphere in the whole stadium. Just far too small those areas.
Having a good atmosphere at City sounds like having a good set of away fans in. Good in our small pockets of vocal fans that we have, but the general atmosphere of the Etihad Stadium is poor.
Yesterday, I’d describe the atmosphere across the stadium as ‘not bad’. 4/10
And atmosphere isn’t just about singing, certainly not singing all game. The atmosphere at Palace is poor, they’ve got a little corner where a few hundred band geeks sing all game but the other 95% in their ground are silent.
We had a great atmosphere against Liverpool in January 2019 where we hardly sang any songs all game. We sang at the start, sang after each goal, and sang at the end… but other than that we barely sang at all, but it was just an atmosphere where everyone in the ground was involved in the game.
But also, if we had a proper vocal stand set-up, it would be more conducive to an atmosphere. Great numbers, greater noise, not hard to hear in the rest of the ground, not trapped between areas where the atmosphere doesn’t spread, not oversung by the away fans
We routinely win 95% of our home games. The atmosphere for the other 5% is easily comparable with Spurs or any other home crowd.I understand your point. Still, very loud from most parts of the ground. Don’t know what it’s like there week in, week out, but at our place that’s very much the exception rather than the rule.
I’m not sure that’s true. But what about merging two tiers?, for instance south stand level 1 and 2 or we could create a large second tier in the north stand, with rail seating - ie a proper home endIt still doesn't work well split over three tiers but I don't think our ground design will allow one non tiered open end. Spurs got it right and the kop at Liverpool. Once the fans are split where they can't see or hear one another it reduces the effectiveness at least 50%.
I’m not sure that’s true. But what about merging two tiers?, for instance south stand level 1 and 2 or we could create a large second tier in the north stand, with rail seating - ie a proper home end
That's bollocks , if it was true we would never have had any great atmospheres, how did we create what we did against Hamburg in the same stadium if it cant be done ?Unfortunately our stadium is just not conducive to a great atmosphere. The tiers and the fact that the distance from the first row of tier two to the other side of the pitch is massive is a problem. I would love a brand new stadium like Spurs if I am honest. One designed with atmosphere in mind.
Thought the Spuds fans were shite last week. Especially as it was such a big game for them. But Spuds not singing has got to be a blessing. It's like finger nails down a blackboard when they screech Oh when the SpursWent to Spurs last week and, sad to say, the home atmosphere was so much better. Didn’t notice any early leavers. Different game I know but the difference was noticeable.
Thought Norwich were an embarrassment today.Wasting time at the start of the second half when 2-0 down. Clearly don’t belong in this league.