Etihad Atmosphere - 2022/23

In the old days you would only have to start pointing at them and shouting YOU RED BASTARDS they would fuck off or be fucked off sharpish.
When, exactly, would a group of Barrow-supporting United fans, be sitting in the City seats watching us play a European Cup match?
 
When, exactly, would a group of Barrow-supporting United fans, be sitting in the City seats watching us play a European Cup match?

Well they clearly wouldn't want to go to old trafford under any circumstances these days.....




Then again maybe they're not allowed out on Thursday nights :-)
 
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Watching Arsenal v Zurich.

Zurich away fans/Ultras have been allowed in with flags with 'sticks', drums, and they've been letting off flares.

It's amazing how the Police, clubs, stewards and the authorities turn a blind eye to what European fans/Ultras bring into English grounds and get away with.
Carrying on from my previous post.

Towards the end of the match a Zurich fan let off a flare right at the front of the stand and held it up until it went out. This happened in-front of the stewards who were stood a few yards from the Zurich fans.


It’s not about using flares, smoke bombs, flags with sticks, etc, it’s about the double standards the clubs, the police, stewards(who are only doing their job) apply to PL/English fans compared to European fans. I wouldn’t get into an away end if I brought a flag with a stick. I’d have it confiscated at the gate. If I got in with a flare, or a less harmful smoke bomb and let either off inside the ground, even in a CL match, I’d get arrested, charged, and get a 3 year banning order.

As for the Zurich fans they sang constantly throughout the match. But they had one of those drummers who drummed non-stop for 90+ minutes and needed shooting.
 
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Carrying on from my previous post.

Towards the end of the match a Zurich fan let of a flare right at the front of the stand and held it up until it went out. This happened in-front of the stewards who were stood a few yards from the Zurich fans.


It’s not about using flares, smoke bombs, flags with sticks, etc, it’s about the double standards the clubs, the police, stewards(who are only doing their job) apply to PL/English fans compared to European fans. I wouldn’t get into an away end if I brought a flag with a stick. I’d have it confiscated at the gate. If I got in with a flare, or a less harmful smoke bomb and let either off inside the ground, even in a CL match, I’d get arrested, charged, and get a 3 year banning order.

As for the Zurich fans they sang constantly throughout the match. But they had one of those drummers who drummed non-stop for 90+ minutes and needed shooting.
At least they didn't have a megaphone, the one at Copenhagen was a joke, spoilt the game, give me a drum any day over that :)
 
South stand sang "what the fucking hell was that" at the people with their phone lights on, and rightly so, then proceed to spend 15 minutes ignoring the game cheering for a fucking hat being thrown about. Hardly any regulars around me last night and a lot of knobs, I prefer the tourists who fill in the gaps in thr South stand, might get stick for taking pictures but a lot of them are more willing to join in songs than locals.
Thought it was a shoe?
 
Carrying on from my previous post.

Towards the end of the match a Zurich fan let off a flare right at the front of the stand and held it up until it went out. This happened in-front of the stewards who were stood a few yards from the Zurich fans.


It’s not about using flares, smoke bombs, flags with sticks, etc, it’s about the double standards the clubs, the police, stewards(who are only doing their job) apply to PL/English fans compared to European fans. I wouldn’t get into an away end if I brought a flag with a stick. I’d have it confiscated at the gate. If I got in with a flare, or a less harmful smoke bomb and let either off inside the ground, even in a CL match, I’d get arrested, charged, and get a 3 year banning order.

As for the Zurich fans they sang constantly throughout the match. But they had one of those drummers who drummed non-stop for 90+ minutes and needed shooting.
A few things from someone who has travelled away with ultras groups:

1. If a steward intervened, the whole away end would stick together and defend their guy (with violence if necessary). So the police would have to intervene and fight against hundreds of ultras. Would be ugly scenes, way uglier than letting them light up a few flairs.

2. These ultras groups are very organized. There's a dress code and everyone looks basically the same. When someone has lighten up a flair, they go into the crowd and get protected by other fans. So they can't possibly be found with cameras.

To do this you have to be very organized, clever and most importantly stick together whatever happens and never let a guy of yours get caught. And the biggest threat they have, is that there's hundreds of ultras in that away end, that are ready to do anything to defend themselves. So UEFA/stewards/police let them do all of this because so it doesn't escalate. The lesser evil if you'd like. In England, fans are well trained to behave and a single case can easily be stopped because no one would intervene and the police can just calmly escort the offender.
 
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When, exactly, would a group of Barrow-supporting United fans, be sitting in the City seats watching us play a European Cup match?
Wasn't being that exact, referencing rags in home seats at the Derby or when at third level plastic rags from town we were playing would often turn up..
 

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