Etihad Atmosphere - 2022/23

jrb said:
Look how far the stands and fans are from the pitch. A line of stewards, 2 large advertising boards, 4 and 3 rows of step and a walk way, and a pitch run off. No wonder the Etihad isn’t an intimidating ground. I think only the ex-Olympic Stadium at West Ham is worse.

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It's not too different to anywhere else though. Maybe less grass between the walkway and pitch but generally you get it's similar at most ground within a metre or so. The steepness of the seating make a big difference to that sense of enclosure and intimidation. Modern stadia just can't really replicate the intimidation that older grounds used to have with steep banks of terracing converted to seating. If you have a single tier like at Dortmund or even a large expanded second tier as we're discussing for the NS then that will be more imposing. Having several tiers breaks things up and makes the ground less intimidating.
 
I reckon United’s singing section sings the word ‘City’ more than our own singing section does. I think the first time the word ‘City’ got chanted in a song was 18 minutes into the game as part of the Ruben Dias song. I think Blue Moon got one very brief airing in the first half and then I don’t recall another City song being sung all game. I think the words ‘Gerrard’ and ‘Suarez’ got chanted as much as the word ‘City’ last night.

If you’d never watched a football game before and were in the ground last night, you wouldn’t know what team our singing section supported. It’s like that section of the ground don’t support City and it’s just little pockets of fanboys singing about players.

No wonder the rest of the ground never join in with the singing section yet do join in with SSL3. SSL1 have become a strange disconnected area of the ground to the entire rest of the stadium that’s neither leading the stadium to create an atmosphere, nor is it part of the wider atmosphere the rest of the ground create when there’s a good stadium-wide atmosphere.

The atmosphere is only ever good around the whole ground when the whole ground is up for it and SSL3 boom out the popular songs.
 
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Didsbury Dave said:
I’m not having a go. I know you are trying and I’ve contributed to you financially before. But the first five minutes of a game usually sets the tone for the “floating” singers in the stadium and if you’re purposefully clapping out “empty seats at home” and “you thought you’d win the league at Sunderland” and “Edin Dzeko” from the first minute, like in the last home game when it was those three in that order in the first two minutes of the game, you are killing the proper atmosphere, not creating it.

People around the other blocks don’t join in, people who would sing think “nobody is singing around me” and then the singing becomes mainly confined to 400 people behind the goal. It becomes self defeating.

When the big games are on the proper songs start elsewhere from behind the goal for that reason.
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Spot on.

The songs the singing section sing, as you say, are self defeating to our atmosphere around the stadium.
 
South stand sang "what the fucking hell was that" at the people with their phone lights on, and rightly so, then proceed to spend 15 minutes ignoring the game cheering for a fucking hat being thrown about. Hardly any regulars around me last night and a lot of knobs, I prefer the tourists who fill in the gaps in thr South stand, might get stick for taking pictures but a lot of them are more willing to join in songs than locals.
 
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