Etihad Atmosphere - 2022/23

Cheers it was the Dreaming of a that I saw from behind then.

I was wondering with the colour of the sheet & letters if it was something to do with the Juve fans. I don't think it was the time or place for that personally.
What does "Dreaming of a blue Wembley" have to do with Juventus?

 
Lol keyboard warrior Dave.

Last night was the biggest rivalry in English football atm. As I said, our fans love our club but many aren’t passionate enough to find out the words to our songs, beyond a few classics. Each to their own and how people support the lads is up to them. It’s great to be a Blue.
I tend to agree. I know loads of City fans of mixed age groups who’ve gradually lost their passion for going to the match. Fans who went for years through thick and thin and younger ones. As the last few seasons have gone by they’ve slowly stopped going. They’d rather watch it in the pub or at home. I wouldn’t say they aren’t true City fans as many of them have served their time and then some. It’s got to the point where there are free season tickets up for grabs for loads of games but people can’t be arsed.

The reasons have been mixed from pissed off with the club constantly trying to squeeze a bit more out of them for season tickets, the lack of connection from the club to the working class fan base and the shit modern day football atmosphere. I’m talking about roughly 50 people in different parts of the ground who say the football is amazing when we play a team who’ll have a game against us but in general they’ve stopped enjoying it like they used to.
 
I tend to agree. I know loads of City fans of mixed age groups who’ve gradually lost their passion for going to the match. Fans who went for years through thick and thin and younger ones. As the last few seasons have gone by they’ve slowly stopped going. They’d rather watch it in the pub or at home. I wouldn’t say they aren’t true City fans as many of them have served their time and then some. It’s got to the point where there are free season tickets up for grabs for loads of games but people can’t be arsed.

The reasons have been mixed from pissed off with the club constantly trying to squeeze a bit more out of them for season tickets, the lack of connection from the club to the working class fan base and the shit modern day football atmosphere. I’m talking about roughly 50 people in different parts of the ground who say the football is amazing when we play a team who’ll have a game against us but in general they’ve stopped enjoying it like they used to.
Is it an age thing?

Many drop off as other things in life take over, people develop their own perspective on what is important and worth the cost and hassle

The saturation of football on TV is also a cause. Years ago the only way you saw a game was to go, now it is 24/7. Plus the moving of fixtures to all times of the day is a ballache.

Our atmosphere at home is as good as any others clubs i have seen in this country and i have been most away games for the past 8 or 9 years. No one stands out.
 
I'm no longer a member of Reddish blues but when I was they did a lot and helped with travel to aways etc . Also a good way of making friends that are blues and making connections of all sorts.

Charity work with guide dogs for the blind was sterling work too.

I just wanted to make my own way to Wembley etc in the end. Age related probably and the fact I've jacked in the booze.

good lads and lasses at Reddish Blues.

Were you on the bus to the swamp for the 4-3 game when the driver told us to get off right outside their ground as he'd missed the coach park and had "broken down". Getting all sorts thrown at us, we rightly told him to fuck right off and he got it going and looped back around again! Agree with what you say, made life easy with the travel - remember a nice long trip up to St James' on a Tuesday night and the travel to home games was often handy as well.
 
Is it an age thing?

Many drop off as other things in life take over, people develop their own perspective on what is important and worth the cost and hassle

The saturation of football on TV is also a cause. Years ago the only way you saw a game was to go, now it is 24/7. Plus the moving of fixtures to all times of the day is a ballache.

Our atmosphere at home is as good as any others clubs i have seen in this country and i have been most away games for the past 8 or 9 years. No one stands out.
Yeah totally agree that it’s football in general in England regarding atmosphere. Was unfortunately in a pub in town with about 10 reds who didn’t bother going to the Burnley game despite all having tickets. Obviously i can’t stand utd but this lot have all been going years and done 100’s of grounds and Euro aways between them. Suppose the slight difference with the scum is there is always another tourist to take their place. With City that part is still growing, not that i particularly want that to continue.
 
What does "Dreaming of a blue Wembley" have to do with Juventus?


No you misunderstand, I saw a white banner with what looked like scribbled black writing on from behind.

I'm happy that it wasn't something cobbled together with a reference to the 39 Juve fans who as you will know play in black/white, as I don't think it would have shown us in a good light.
 
Is it an age thing?

Many drop off as other things in life take over, people develop their own perspective on what is important and worth the cost and hassle

The saturation of football on TV is also a cause. Years ago the only way you saw a game was to go, now it is 24/7. Plus the moving of fixtures to all times of the day is a ballache.

Our atmosphere at home is as good as any others clubs i have seen in this country and i have been most away games for the past 8 or 9 years. No one stands out.
There has always been a turnover of fans for lots of reasons:money, health, family, getting older. Last night was fantastic in the stadium. We are getting huge crowds and winning trophies. The demographic of our fanbase is getting younger which bodes well for the future.
I am not judgemental about those who come on here to moan about the club (I have done it myself from time to time) but this is the greatest time in history to be a City fan. I'm not going to miss a single second of it.
 
There has always been a turnover of fans for lots of reasons:money, health, family, getting older. Last night was fantastic in the stadium. We are getting huge crowds and winning trophies. The demographic of our fanbase is getting younger which bodes well for the future.
I am not judgemental about those who come on here to moan about the club (I have done it myself from time to time) but this is the greatest time in history to be a City fan. I'm not going to miss a single second of it.
Agree with all of this, especially the part about not being judgemental as we all like a moan, but I do think we need to stop beating ourselves up. Last night the atmosphere was cracking, but as always it depends where you sit. In my experience, certain parts of the ground are more polite/reserved than others, it's the sweary bits of the ground where there's a proper old school vibe. But once you find somewhere where you know people will get involved, you can stop worrying about how it looks on telly or what's happening elsewhere in the ground, even if there's just ten of you giving it.

This is not Buenos Aires - it's not Dortmund (beyond the yellow wall not everyone is going bananas there anyway) - it's Manchester. We express ourselves in a way particular to the city and these islands, but it doesn't mean we are not passionate about the club. If nana doesn't want to sing constantly and just enjoys effing and jeffing at the ref with a big bag of wine gums then let her, we aren't drones.

I sang in choirs in Manchester all my youth, and I've said it before on here, I'm convinced the Scousers make a decent noise because there are trained voices in their support, rather than beered up singing from people who naturally have other things to do - like watching the football, chatting to the Blues around them about what's going on, etc. Last night the Scousers were silent for long periods anyway.

All there is to be done is when the North Stand expansion happens, let City Matters and 1894 give real thought to another singing section with mind to acoustics, maybe even put together a fans choir who can always make a noise, and offer cheaper tickets so teens can access the games. Until then we enjoy what we have - a great, loyal fanbase, a great ground, a great team, great ownership and the best soundtrack of Manc tunes in the country.

But like I say, from what I saw last night, from where I was, the support was passionate, constant and vocal. You don't have to sing for 90 minutes to truly support your club imo.
 
No you misunderstand, I saw a white banner with what looked like scribbled black writing on from behind.

I'm happy that it wasn't something cobbled together with a reference to the 39 Juve fans who as you will know play in black/white, as I don't think it would have shown us in a good light.

I get what your saying, but why on earth would city fans do that/you think we would either?
 
Is it an age thing?

Many drop off as other things in life take over, people develop their own perspective on what is important and worth the cost and hassle

The saturation of football on TV is also a cause. Years ago the only way you saw a game was to go, now it is 24/7. Plus the moving of fixtures to all times of the day is a ballache.

Our atmosphere at home is as good as any others clubs i have seen in this country and i have been most away games for the past 8 or 9 years. No one stands out.

Got to agree with this. The atmosphere at the majority of established Premier League clubs is no better than City’s. You get some exceptions when clubs come up e.g. Forest this season, but after a few years mid-table they tail off as well.
 
Got to agree with this. The atmosphere at the majority of established Premier League clubs is no better than City’s. You get some exceptions when clubs come up e.g. Forest this season, but after a few years mid-table they tail off as well.
Depends on who you play regarding the atmosphere, like I would be more up for Rita Ora than the monotonous bedroom boredom of marriage
 
I'm up in EL3 on the goal line and this year there has really been a difference in support. For years we were seeing a reduction in regulars and being replaced by blocks of seats sold by agencies to day trippers, some of which never came back for the 2nd half after hearing some choice language from me and my mate. Often we felt like lone wolves chanting the faves started by the South stand despite us both being in our 50's

This season, there are so many more fans who chant and get involved it's been great and it feels like lots of City fans are getting involved. Last night a fair few chants felt like they started up in the East Stand. Long may it continue.
 
Tim’s right about our fans not being very passionate anymore. Sure we can rouse ourselves for the big occasions but our default setting is pretty flat these days.

It’s an age thing of course. A huge block of our regular match going support are in their mid 40s and older. People can insist all they want that they’re just as passionate now as ever but they’re not. Nobody fucks their mrs the same now as they did in their early 20s, nobody fights the same, nobody has nights out the same - time takes the fire out of your belly.

The young uns in the south stand are brilliant and we need more of them.
There are 4/5 season ticket holders near where I sit , (mixed ages mid 20s to 50s )they take there seats 10/20 minutes after kick off , they leave 5/ 10 minutes before half time , they return a good 15/20 mins into the second half, I think they have hospitality somewhere and stay in the bar watching it on the telly.what is the fucking point. They don't even sing when they are watching the game, all around us are trying to get things going. Not even a" Come on City " Fucking useless.
 

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