Etihad Atmosphere - 2022/23

jrb said:
The drum haters would be driven mad at Boca Juniors. Lol! :-)

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It’s even more about trumpets there.

There are YouTube videos showing you how to play the trumpet for the Boca songs.

They get them in when there’s no game on and rehearse their trumpets.



It’s like that at Leeds Rhinos, gets right on your tits after a few minutes.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Fantastic post. Spot on!

The Etihad is too friendly and nice. It also feels like the entire ‘matchday experience’ is aimed at the smallest demographic in the stadium - kids. Over the entire attendance, there’s hardly any kids there (my estimation is about 5-7% of the crowd are kids) yet everything seems geared at them.

To grown-ups, who’ve been up and down the country and all over Europe seeing and being impressed with the intimidation that you get from other places (grown-up football grounds for grown-ups) seeing the Etihad - which is about 95-97% grown-ups - in comparison is utterly cringeworthy childish shite.

Everything other than the game on the grass feels like we are Alton Towers FC. When I was a kid in the ’80s and ’90s I didn’t need any razzmatazz bollocks, I was perfectly hooked and obsessed with City and loved going to games with what you describe Elland Road and Old Trafford still being like.

Kids are allowed in pubs but not everything in the pub is aimed at kids because it’s mainly a place for adults. Just like at the football. Football games are adult men’s football mainly being watched by adult men, we are by far the biggest demographic in the stadium yet it feels like absolutely nothing apart from the game on the grass is aimed at us.

Kill the cheese and make everything more mature.

The club itself should have nothing to do with any flags, banners, displays, pre-game building of atmosphere etc. It should all only come from the fans. None of those blokes with an ear piece walking up the East Stand telling people when to wave flags with the players’ names on when their names are read out when teams are announced. No banners that have club sponsors on. No staged smoke coming from pitchside. No bands doing fan walks to the stadium. And no bloody light shows!

Everything they do is all in good nature but it’s all too manufactured!
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It’s supposed to be aimed at kids but I don’t even think it’s what kids want. Kids want noise, atmosphere and intimidation too. When I was a kid I sat in the Platt Lane and watched the Kippax most of the time. My dad used to tell me off.
 
Probably a post for the north stand thread but I remember watching a documentary a while ago about the construction of new Wembley, they had sound engineers in assessing the acoustics as the architects had completely ignored that aspect. From memory they had to redesign a lot of the ground to account for it.

Obviously as our ground originally was an athletics track I imagine this had not been considered on construction, have we had anyone in to consult since or are we desperately needing this when the north stand expansion takes place?
 
Didsbury Dave said:
It’s supposed to be aimed at kids but I don’t even think it’s what kids want. Kids want noise, atmosphere and intimidation too. When I was a kid I sat in the Platt Lane and watched the Kippax most of the time. My dad used to tell me off.
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Exactly mate. The magic and excitement of first catching sight of the pitch through the vomitory is a feeling that stays with you as a kid.....not a fucking light show.

A lot of games I spent more time looking on in awe at the crowd than watching the football. Feeling as though I was part of something.
 
Northblue said:
Probably a post for the north stand thread but I remember watching a documentary a while ago about the construction of new Wembley, they had sound engineers in assessing the acoustics as the architects had completely ignored that aspect. From memory they had to redesign a lot of the ground to account for it.

Obviously as our ground originally was an athletics track I imagine this had not been considered on construction, have we had anyone in to consult since or are we desperately needing this when the north stand expansion takes place?
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Wembley has quite similar acoustics to ours in my opinion. I alway think the noise is very muddy in there. It can sound loud but you can’t make out what’s being sung and by who. Like the Etihad, it only sounds good when the sound fills the centre of the stadium and that requires the top tiers to be making noise.
 
Edghill OG said:
Exactly mate. The magic and excitement of first catching sight of the pitch through the vomitory is a feeling that stays with you as a kid.....not a fucking light show.

A lot of games I spent more time looking on in awe at the crowd than watching the football. Feeling as though I was part of something.
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I used to spend hours with a pen and paper drawing football stadiums and filling them with fans. There was always either singing going on in my pictures, signified by pointing hands, or a goal had been scored. I didn’t even draw the players, just the stands.
 
Northblue said:
Probably a post for the north stand thread but I remember watching a documentary a while ago about the construction of new Wembley, they had sound engineers in assessing the acoustics as the architects had completely ignored that aspect. From memory they had to redesign a lot of the ground to account for it.

Obviously as our ground originally was an athletics track I imagine this had not been considered on construction, have we had anyone in to consult since or are we desperately needing this when the north stand expansion takes place?
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But the Wembley sound carry is worse than even our pad.
 
“We do, we love you City, we do, we love you City we do, oh City we love you!”

Wait a minute, the players can‘t hear us because…. (click on the link for the video and you’ll find out why)

Yeah, it was great! :-/

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Didsbury Dave said:
I used to spend hours with a pen and paper drawing football stadiums and filling them with fans. There was always either singing going on in my pictures, signified by pointing hands, or a goal had been scored. I didn’t even draw the players, just the stands.
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jesus i thought i was the only nutter that did this !

wembley 1981 i took a big blue and white flag and full bag of ripped up paper to throw, quite good when the players came out, it was a sea of blue flags & scarves, matched anything the Argies do. Then the german fans copied and we died down in england.

We need this type of following again. The culture has changed, we try to come out with reasons or blame something for why the atmosphere is dull, but if you put 5,000 of that type of cultured fan from Wembley 1981 in the lower SS Vs Arsenal we would have out sung the whole of the stadium.

As we keep saying everyone, the north stand move is out last chance.. No matter what hotels & casinos go in the new stand, if 6,000 mad blues move in and make it our end it will be a fortress.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Good post. Club have got to get on to this properly. It’s not just a massive chance, it’s arguably our last chance at this stadium.

The only other thing we can do if they just make the North Stand like the South Stand have have corporate sections and three tiers, is to make the whole of ESL1 our new Kippax standing and singing area.
Deep down that’s what I’ve always wanted. I sit in ESL1, love the view, always wanted safe standing where I am, always wanted the vocal area to be where I am… none of this behind the goal shit! But if they do get the North Stand right, I will move there.
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it would actually work this, but doubt it will happen.

lower tier east stand, full safestanding. You would end up with most the singers where kippax corner now is to give the away fans stick. Also you would get fans moving about depending on which way city where kicking. Also for displays and flags it would be much easier.
 
trevorriley said:
jesus i thought i was the only nutter that did this !

wembley 1981 i took a big blue and white flag and full bag of ripped up paper to throw, quite good when the players came out, it was a sea of blue flags & scarves, matched anything the Argies do. Then the german fans copied and we died down in england.

We need this type of following again. The culture has changed, we try to come out with reasons or blame something for why the atmosphere is dull, but if you put 5,000 of that type of cultured fan from Wembley 1981 in the lower SS Vs Arsenal we would have out sung the whole of the stadium.

As we keep saying everyone, the north stand move is out last chance.. No matter what hotels & casinos go in the new stand, if 6,000 mad blues move in and make it our end it will be a fortress.
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I've got loads of photos from Wembley 1981. I was 11.

I can still reel off what I worse even now. Sky blue City/unbro tracksuit bottoms. The red and black replica shirt. A blue, white, red and black flat cap, a wool scarf round my neck and a silk scarf around my wrist. I made a banner which my unclues and grandad decided should say "Our Word is Our Bond" which I still cringe about a little bit.

From the age of about 13 I never wore another piece of merchandise or club colours again but I certainly went for it back then.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I've got loads of photos from Wembley 1981. I was 11.

I can still reel off what I worse even now. Sky blue City/unbro tracksuit bottoms. The red and black replica shirt. A blue, white, red and black flat cap, a wool scarf round my neck and a silk scarf around my wrist. I made a banner which my unclues and grandad decided should say "Our Word is Our Bond" which I still cringe about a little bit.

From the age of about 13 I never wore another piece of merchandise or club colours again but I certainly went for it back then.
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Tiny blue pin badge...still now
 
trevorriley said:
excellent comparison JRB.

if only we could get those same fans in the same end with same mentality during a game... not just best concourse fans in the league !
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Mobile phones don't help....should be taken off you as you walk in and the mobile tickets binned. and . and and and
 
jrb said:
The drum haters would be driven mad at Boca Juniors. Lol! :-)

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The difference being there are 100s of things going on in the crowd at Boca - not just the drums.

I’ve been to several games in Buenos Aires - at Boca, River Plate and Racing and you never know what’s gonna happen next. You hardly notice drums as every single person in the crowd is invested in the atmosphere. Night games are incredible.

A drum in English football at a quiet stadium is shit. You end up like Bolton when they were in the Premier League where its silence interrupted by clown with a drum.
 
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