There is a Light
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Etihad atmosphere
- Thread starter Prouty
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We really have.
shevtheblue
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I was collecting for The Red Cross yesterday (thanks to those that donated) and the club were nice enough to provide tickets to all the volunteers. Now, while i commend the club for doing this, I have to take issue with the seats we were given. The majority of volunteers are not interested in the football, we were there to collect for charity and that's what we did, so a lot of them just went home afterwards. There was about 50 of us, and the tickets were all in the colin bell stand in 122, pitch side. So there were lines of empty seats pitch side, which imo is idiotic from the club. The guy sat next to me had come with his family on a day trip, he was on his iPad taking pictures of him and his family and posting it on Facebook while checking in to the Etihad, this was 15-20mins into the game. This whole stand needs revising IMO, it's destroying any possibility for atmosphere..
I also do think a lot of the middle aged (i am of the same age) generation need to have a rethink, they are constantly shouting to clear the ball after the second touch by a defender and giving sarcastic cheers when Bravo does something right - it's fucking embarrassing.
I also do think a lot of the middle aged (i am of the same age) generation need to have a rethink, they are constantly shouting to clear the ball after the second touch by a defender and giving sarcastic cheers when Bravo does something right - it's fucking embarrassing.
Alex - City Matters
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As someone who followed the club home and away for many years until I felt I had lost the club I once knew, from my experience of travelling around europe to watch football (predominantly Italy) the only way to save/develop the shocking state of atmosphere in the English stadia is to completely embrace the ultra style of support. Groups of like minded people who are willing to stand side by side and protect each other from showsec and the like and take back control of the terrace. Are English fans capable of making this drastic step forward in mentality, i'm not sure, but is this the only viable way forward, I could not be more certain.
Exactly - spot on. I'd be willing to do something like that. Alas, it seems most of our support would rather have a rubbish atmosphere than have a drum etc, as they're too cool for stuff like that. The response the Citizens group saw is the prime example.
Fine, if you don't like it - don't get involved. But the benefits of having an ultras style group is that they organise the whole ground almost. The drum keeps the songs in tune and drowns out any opposition response (for example every time we try and respond to the German teams in the CL), whilst it also gets the song going around the rest of the ground (see Palace and the Helmsdale Fanatics. It's no surprise they have one of the divisions best home atmosphere - even though their group is minute compared to European equivalents.)
The singing section is supposedly like minded people to the ones who really care, but it's made no difference- most of them are as apathetic as the rest of the stadium.
Well, it was never sold as what @NorthernBoy is suggesting. It was always effectively just making sure the seats vacated by the expansion didn't end up being seated. To have a group like suggested, would require an entire re-work.
BurnCK
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Safe standing is the last hope, but it wouldn't surprise me if that didn't work either as we already have 300 singers who asked to move to a designated area and it seems most of them can't be arsed.
Shouldn't all be on them though. Not surprised their not arsed when no-one else joins in.
Neville Kneville
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There were people around me yesterday, actually shouting if we made 3 passes & one hadn't been hoofed over the halfway line. I'm not exaggerating here, I counted it more than once. Angry shouts towards 20 year old Kelechi when he tried to curl the ball in the top corner (which probably would have gone in had it not hit the Burnley player's shin) & that's early, in a game we were dominating & looking like scoring. The City crowd was helping Burnley.
If it hadn't been for Lee Mason, a lot of the game would have been played in relative silence, apart from the occasional half hearted song & more enthusiastic shouts of abuse at our players/team. At least he gave the moaning ****s something to moan about which wasn't City.
Meanwhile, clubs close by or below us are getting half decent support from their fans, even though they are nowhere near Chelsea.
We are turning into Arsenal & we are wasting the chance to grow a bond with the best manager possibly we will ever have & help him build City into a true European giant.
If we get a typical, run of the mill, manager & play the piss obvious way many fans are asking for, then we will have no advantage over anyone else. Our whole success will depend on our transfers being better than theirs.
This is 'the' one chance we get, to do something different to everyone else & try to create something special, which they can't copy.
Get behind this manager, while you have the chance.
If it hadn't been for Lee Mason, a lot of the game would have been played in relative silence, apart from the occasional half hearted song & more enthusiastic shouts of abuse at our players/team. At least he gave the moaning ****s something to moan about which wasn't City.
Meanwhile, clubs close by or below us are getting half decent support from their fans, even though they are nowhere near Chelsea.
We are turning into Arsenal & we are wasting the chance to grow a bond with the best manager possibly we will ever have & help him build City into a true European giant.
If we get a typical, run of the mill, manager & play the piss obvious way many fans are asking for, then we will have no advantage over anyone else. Our whole success will depend on our transfers being better than theirs.
This is 'the' one chance we get, to do something different to everyone else & try to create something special, which they can't copy.
Get behind this manager, while you have the chance.
M18CTID
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Why don't we get a drum or a Band. Pep would have been use to that in Barca and Munich.
I also got the impression Pep thinks what have I got myself into, I am the best coach in the world and these lot do not deserve me.
Yet you were the clown on the thread about non-City supporting tourists in the away end at Liverpool slagging off those fans that dared say away tickets should go to those fans with the requisite number of loyalty points rather than queue-jumping tourists and JCLs who add little to nothing in the way of atmosphere.
tolmie's hairdoo
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There's simply not enough of those who want it a particular way, or at least can be arsed. We need a collective 3,000 hardcore, and we currently have around 300 at most, interspersed in lower South Stand, like some little cosy drinking men's club.
Celtic fans showed what noise can be generated by just 3,000 the other week, so the numbers are hardly outrageous targets.
All credit to Dante and the lads who go out of their way to take it upon themselves to try and instigate, refusing the assistance of the club in these matters.
They have a set of valid ideals, although I think the time may have come to bite the bullet and accept the resources and cash the club can offer them?
At present, the club think they have the answers, but if they fund the people who are motivated enough already to try and create atmosphere, they might get it right.
The levels of self-awareness, too-cool-for school in our supporters, has done for the Poznan.
Fact is, it's flags, drums, flares, and such, which are now the only way to manufacture an atmosphere in these huge cavernous stadiums which exist.
I'm guilty myself of leaving a couple minutes before the end to try and run back to my car to avoid sitting in traffic, but never when the game is in the balance.
I have been stunned by the fire drills at both Arsenal and Burnley.
Celtic fans showed what noise can be generated by just 3,000 the other week, so the numbers are hardly outrageous targets.
All credit to Dante and the lads who go out of their way to take it upon themselves to try and instigate, refusing the assistance of the club in these matters.
They have a set of valid ideals, although I think the time may have come to bite the bullet and accept the resources and cash the club can offer them?
At present, the club think they have the answers, but if they fund the people who are motivated enough already to try and create atmosphere, they might get it right.
The levels of self-awareness, too-cool-for school in our supporters, has done for the Poznan.
Fact is, it's flags, drums, flares, and such, which are now the only way to manufacture an atmosphere in these huge cavernous stadiums which exist.
I'm guilty myself of leaving a couple minutes before the end to try and run back to my car to avoid sitting in traffic, but never when the game is in the balance.
I have been stunned by the fire drills at both Arsenal and Burnley.
Am I missing something. What is the issue with having a drum? It creates a continued sound. Would you prefer continuous silence?God, we've hit rock bottom.
There is a Light
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Shouldn't all be on them though. Not surprised their not arsed when no-one else joins in.
300 people singers make significantly more noise than 30 singers and it's more likely to catch on with the rest of the zombies.
The people who moved to that area but don't sing want to have a look at themselves.
tolmie's hairdoo
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There were people around me yesterday, actually shouting if we made 3 passes & one hadn't been hoofed over the halfway line. I'm not exaggerating here, I counted it more than once. Angry shouts towards 20 year old Kelechi when he tried to curl the ball in the top corner (which probably would have gone in had it not hit the Burnley player's shin) & that's early, in a game we were dominating & looking like scoring. The City crowd was helping Burnley.
If it hadn't been for Lee Mason, a lot of the game would have been played in relative silence, apart from the occasional half hearted song & more enthusiastic shouts of abuse at our players/team. At least he gave the moaning ****s something to moan about which wasn't City.
Meanwhile, clubs close by or below us are getting half decent support from their fans, even though they are nowhere near Chelsea.
We are turning into Arsenal & we are wasting the chance to grow a bond with the best manager possibly we will ever have & help him build City into a true European giant.
If we get a typical, run of the mill, manager & play the piss obvious way many fans are asking for, then we will have no advantage over anyone else. Our whole success will depend on our transfers being better than theirs.
This is 'the' one chance we get, to do something different to everyone else & try to create something special, which they can't copy.
Get behind this manager, while you have the chance.
Know nowt self-entitled twats. The fans used to be our biggest asset, now they are our Achilles heel.
The club take a big share of the blame, I have been unable to take my kids to recent games because they make it impossible to get tickets on the fly, or lie about availability and seats needed together.