Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

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Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

kramer said:
dan05delaney said:
117 M34 said:
The undeveloped land on the above pic - is that where the 'attraction' is supposed to be being built?
Doesn't look big enough for anything too substantial - wasn't there talk of 6m visitors a year? Nowhere near enough land to get that many people in.
Now that would have to be something incredible, the National Gallery, London 6.03m.... Natural history Museum gets 5.3m a year.... Tower of London 2.8m..... like I hope Mansour has some crazy big ideas for the land...

There be close to 2M visitors each season just for football once the complete stadium expansion is complete that includes First, Women, EDS and junior teams

So you're saying all City fans are tourists? I think I'll run off and quote you in some other threads!!!!!
 
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supercity88 said:
acton28 said:
paulchapo said:
I am sure i remember reading when the stadium was built that it was designed to keep the noise in and stop it escaping,so improving the atmosphere.

Mark Hughes said that when Aguero scored that goal that he had never hear a noise so loud ever in all his time involved in football.Considering his career that was some endorsement.

Reality is, you make more noise, it gets heard. I think the ground can be bouncing but some games it is duller than Maine Road ever was

I remember the Hamburg home quarter final 2nd leg and it was an incredible atmosphere, the ground was buzzing that day and the noise stayed in and echoed around the ground. If they can make it even better and keep it in, reverberating off the roof and down onto the pitch then it will be epic and would be even better if they split the lower two tiers into away and keep the top tier as city only (which i don't believe they are planning on doing as per the illustrative drawings)

The reality is, that if they have incorporated acoustic damping into the roof at both ends & it works, it could be having an absolutely enormous effect on the atmosphere inside the ground.

It's probably been done in order to improve the sound quality for concerts etc (picture a drummer hitting snare drum onstage the getting back a deafening 10,000kW shity sounding metallic snare drum echo half a second later) but lots of old stadia held concerts without that kind of acoustic design & sounded ok. Maine Road for a start.

When it's said that it's designed to 'stop' sound from one end reaching the other, that's not possible in open air, you would have to put a huge acoustic barrier or a vacuum inbetween, so if a bunch of Poznan fans make an unholy racket, you will still hear it pretty loud at the other end. If the roof is successfully damping the sound however, you will still be hearing it at a lot less level than you would have done without the damping. It would also cut down the sound & therefore the atmosphere in the upper tier & dilute how much of it reaches the lower tier.

All together, if a bunch of City fans start trying to get a song going at one end, it will be less likely that the rest of the ground joins in if it sounds quieter than it actually is. If it's loud, more people join in.

Where I'm sat, I have often wondered why the sound travelling from the North Stand, not just from City fans, but from most away fans, is so feeble sounding where I am. I have often wondered about the possibility of putting in reflective areas in oreder to fix it. Now I'm hearing it's actually been designed to stop it !

If this is true about the roof, changing it could have an absolutely fantastic effect on the atmosphere inside the ground & has me now more excited than the actual expansion itself. It's not guaranteed to make a huge difference but it's very possible it could.
 
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Taken this Afternoon.

May have a bit of time to upload some more pictures. If not tomorrow.

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jrb said:
Taken this Afternoon.

May have a bit of time to upload some more pictures. If not tomorrow.

Click twice to enlarge.

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/LqOzXgj.jpg[/bigimg]
Appreciate the shots JRB but what's happening with that car?
 
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whicko said:
jrb said:
Taken this Afternoon.

May have a bit of time to upload some more pictures. If not tomorrow.

Click twice to enlarge.

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Appreciate the shots JRB but what's happening with that car?

It's like United, red and disappearing. ;-)

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Leisure centre.

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Connell Sixth Form College

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Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

External changes to the stadium.

New pictures going up. The spirals now have the supporters clubs names on them. Plus Cityzens.

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Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Neville Kneville said:
supercity88 said:
acton28 said:
Reality is, you make more noise, it gets heard. I think the ground can be bouncing but some games it is duller than Maine Road ever was

I remember the Hamburg home quarter final 2nd leg and it was an incredible atmosphere, the ground was buzzing that day and the noise stayed in and echoed around the ground. If they can make it even better and keep it in, reverberating off the roof and down onto the pitch then it will be epic and would be even better if they split the lower two tiers into away and keep the top tier as city only (which i don't believe they are planning on doing as per the illustrative drawings)

The reality is, that if they have incorporated acoustic damping into the roof at both ends & it works, it could be having an absolutely enormous effect on the atmosphere inside the ground.

It's probably been done in order to improve the sound quality for concerts etc (picture a drummer hitting snare drum onstage the getting back a deafening 10,000kW shity sounding metallic snare drum echo half a second later) but lots of old stadia held concerts without that kind of acoustic design & sounded ok. Maine Road for a start.

When it's said that it's designed to 'stop' sound from one end reaching the other, that's not possible in open air, you would have to put a huge acoustic barrier or a vacuum inbetween, so if a bunch of Poznan fans make an unholy racket, you will still hear it pretty loud at the other end. If the roof is successfully damping the sound however, you will still be hearing it at a lot less level than you would have done without the damping. It would also cut down the sound & therefore the atmosphere in the upper tier & dilute how much of it reaches the lower tier.

All together, if a bunch of City fans start trying to get a song going at one end, it will be less likely that the rest of the ground joins in if it sounds quieter than it actually is. If it's loud, more people join in.

Where I'm sat, I have often wondered why the sound travelling from the North Stand, not just from City fans, but from most away fans, is so feeble sounding where I am. I have often wondered about the possibility of putting in reflective areas in oreder to fix it. Now I'm hearing it's actually been designed to stop it !

If this is true about the roof, changing it could have an absolutely fantastic effect on the atmosphere inside the ground & has me now more excited than the actual expansion itself. It's not guaranteed to make a huge difference but it's very possible it could.

Thought about posting something along these lines, and then laziness kicked in and I think I made a sandwich instead. But all completely true and well stated... I won't wade into whether or not the support needs to be more vocal, because that really is an independent conversation, but the effect a building can deliberately have on acoustics and volume, with just a few structural adjustments, is astounding.

Any of you guys visit an amphitheater ruin from Ancient Greece, or Rome? Whisper on the granite stage platform and your friend in the back can still hear you? Or been in a studio with egg-carton lining, where you can hear a pin drop? Extreme examples, but I had a brief stint working in live sound mixing monitors for bands, and the room/structure/layout makes an incredible difference. Night and day.

So thanks for being more motivated than I am to say as much, Neville. I'm going to go make a sandwich now.

PS - Thanks as always for the updates, jrb.
 
Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Training academy.

Didn't have my ladders today, so the bushes get into the pictures. :-(

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Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Excellent jrb
Still a bit of work to be done yet
 
Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Yet again... WOW!

I was looking at the latter pics and it feels like yesterday we were getting excited at the first floodlights going up when there was mud everywhere. My first visit of the the season will be Stoke... going to make sure I set off early so I can spend some time looking at my beloved building site.

Thanks as ever JRB.
 
Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

nice pics, but I was hoping when I came on Monday it would be finished, bloody workman
 
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Sterling work as ever jrb. I think this one made it feel even more real somehow. I've gone all warm and moist.
 
Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

South Stand expansion.

Went back after taking the first set of pictures and captured the steel erectors erecting what looks like the second level of the steel frame?

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Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

will the bloody ground be ready for Monday, not the south stand but it looks like half the walls are missing
 
Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

I liked the bin (both times). Just making sure we're paying attention?
 
Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Brilliant work, jrb.

As an expat, I actually enjoyed the pics of bushes [especially the buddleia].

This may sound disloyal and obviously unrealistic but, as an old South Manchester Kippax lad, there is a part of my wishes that this could have all been done at Maine Road. Moss Side will always need investment. It's just one of those things. I know Beswick et al do as well. But there it is...
 
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