gordondaviesmoustache said:As someone who lives there, and very much likes the place and its people, it is a description that is anachronistic and a soubriquet that is quite frankly, misleading.FantasyIreland said:cleavers said:Thanks for that link fbloke, a very interesting article, and some clever politics from Manchester CC. With ADUG on their side they also have considerable access to funds, outside of government.
Ive never understood how Birmingham is deemed the 'second' city ahead of ours?
SilverFox2 said:In a way I suppose I don't mind the lower rating when compared with other major cities.
It is inevitable that a country will have its main city which gets the lions share of investment. The rating system for other cities is presumably some sort of scheme devised by London to keep its other cities happy as followers of the way things go.
The article explains that Manchester is actually a leader in its own right rather than a follower. The Industrial Revolution started here so we are used to innovating rather than simply following as a second or even third city.
I think also that London will look at the investment by the likes of ADUG for projects that they and our local council claimed as not affordable (regeneration of Eastlands) will rattle one or two cages in London. It will encourage others to invest and maybe bid for some of the investment that London thinks it controls.
The reliance on money from the Treasury was frankly not needed where even the cancelled Casino project was typical of the power it could exert over one of its major Cities.
Marvin said:Manchester is quite a small City in the same way that the City of London is small, but the Greater Manchester conurbatio is much bigger than the West Midlands.
Chippy_boy said:Marvin said:Manchester is quite a small City in the same way that the City of London is small, but the Greater Manchester conurbatio is much bigger than the West Midlands.
Depends on how you define these areas. I've seen definitions that prove that each is larger and has more people than the other and then the same comparisons showing the exact opposite. The West Midlands region is enormous compared to Greater Manchester. The West Midlands county is not as big, but probably still 2x the size of Greater Manchester. And then you get into what exactly consistutes the West Midlands conurbation itself vs the Greater Manchester conurbation, and there it's a little less well defined. I think they are probably pretty similar tbf.
The Greater Manchester Statutory City Region[1][2] (sometimes called the Greater Manchester City Region[3][4][5] or more commonly as the Manchester City Region) is a pilot administrative division of England, coterminous with the metropolitan county of Greater Manchester. It is under the strategic governance of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority, officially designated on April 1, 2011 and has a population of 3,363,555 according to figures from the office for national statistics (2011) [6]
The Manchester City Region initially appeared as one of eight city regions defined in the 2004 strategic document Moving Forward: The Northern Way,[7] as a collaboration between three regional development agencies. It encompassed the ten districts of Greater Manchester and five neighbouring local government districts,[3] and was suggested as an effective administrative metropolitan area that could share resources and stimulate economic growth in northern England. In the late 2000s, the Association of Greater Manchester Authorities (AGMA) began actively lobbying for a statutory local government framework for the Manchester City Region in exchange for greater autonomy from the UK central government.[4] They used the term 'Manchester City Region' as a synonym for 'Greater Manchester' (a metropolitan county), and excluded neighbouring districts.[8] Following the 2009 United Kingdom Budget, the city region—abridged to the ten districts of Greater Manchester—was announced as a pilot region which could establish a formal corporate strategic government with powers comparable with the Greater London Authority. AGMA agreed to the creation of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority in March 2010; on 1 April 2011 the combined authority was established.
jonmcity said:Manchester is actually a leader in its own right rather than a follower
We have the capabilities and mindset to influence and lead the world, not cower down as a second City.
Chippy_boy said:gordondaviesmoustache said:As someone who lives there, and very much likes the place and its people, it is a description that is anachronistic and a soubriquet that is quite frankly, misleading.FantasyIreland said:Ive never understood how Birmingham is deemed the 'second' city ahead of ours?
worsleyweb said:cleavers said:Thanks for that link fbloke, a very interesting article, and some clever politics from Manchester CC. With ADUG on their side they also have considerable access to funds, outside of government.fbloke said:This is an excellent read and is why Manchester and Abu Dhabi are so perfectly matched.
I've said it many times but City are very lucky to have Manchester CC and Howard Bernstein and ADUG should count themselves very lucky to have bough a great club in an even greater city with some great local leaders.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/12/secret-negotiations-restore-manchester-greatness?CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... CMP=twt_gu</a>
I read that today! Exciting times for our city. Some of you not in the construction game may not know but sky scrapers galore going up in next 3 years in town!