Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[HelloCity]

So what happened to these imminent expansion plans? It's been imminent for a year

The South Stand was originally confirmed the October before work started February the following year.

I'd expect we will hear before the year is out with work starting in February as well.

 

[Marvin]

The South Stand was originally confirmed the October before work started February the following year.

I'd expect we will hear before the year is out with work starting in February as well.

read elsewhere on the message board that Barcelona home sold out. That's 5 weeks before the game.

 

[Centurions]

read elsewhere on the message board that Barcelona home sold out. That's 5 weeks before the game.

The initial work won't affect the seating areas, that'll get started after the end of the season.

 

[Bluep*ss]

read elsewhere on the message board that Barcelona home sold out. That's 5 weeks before the game.

If the 'UEFA' family (40,000) are in town that will mean 12,000 City fans have tickets. - Maximum capacity always reduced for CL matches.

 

[Marvin]

If the 'UEFA' family (40,000) are in town that will mean 12,000 City fans have tickets. - Maximum capacity always reduced for CL matches.

We had 53,000 plus for Real Madrid last season and Real Madrid did not sell their allocation. There were about 500 empty seats in their end, so if there is a reduction in capacity, it is not much.

 

[Marvin]

The initial work won't affect the seating areas, that'll get started after the end of the season.

I've been reading unofficial speculation for a year now. I am just impatient for it to be confirmed.

 

[Jacko1956]

I've been reading unofficial speculation for a year now. I am just impatient for it to be confirmed.

Announcement will be made in next month or so as the original planning application expires next February.

 

[Oyster28catcher]

I heard they are building the new stand expansion display booth now

 

[Danny Hoekman]

Laings are on site doing works to the changing room change etc and works on the New Stand will start next August.

 

[Centurions]

I heard they are building the new stand expansion display booth now

Will it be ready for next season?

 

[domalino]

I see that Liverpool's supporters union voted 95% in favour of safe standing and are going to ask the Hillsborough families group about their opinion on safe standing.

Given hillsborough was the main reason for the football spectators act, I wonder how influential an endorsement of safe standing from them would be politically speaking.

Celtic have gone for safestanding as well this season - which is surely another sign it's on its way back.

A redone north stand, if the talk about it being less corporate and not having any boxes is true, would be the perfect place to introduce a rail seating tier.

 

[Manchester33]

I see that Liverpool's supporters union voted 95% in favour of safe standing and are going to ask the Hillsborough families group about their opinion on safe standing.

Given hillsborough was the main reason for the football spectators act, I wonder how influential an endorsement of safe standing from them would be politically speaking.

Celtic have gone for safestanding as well this season - which is surely another sign it's on its way back.

A redone north stand, if the talk about it being less corporate and not having any boxes is true, would be the perfect place to introduce a rail seating tier.

Having done a bit behind the scenes on the safe standing issues as well as speaking to influential football fans, the main thing holding us back was the Hillsborough inquiry. Now that's out the way there shouldn't be too much stopping us.

The Liverpool (& Everton) fans we're in touch with are all behind safe standing unnofically, but they know a fair few of the hillsborough families will blindly be against it regardless of the facts involved.

Safe standing is a case of when not if now regardless of what the families say IMO.... one clubs fans shouldn't hold back the rest of the countries!

 

[domalino]

Having done a bit behind the scenes on the safe standing issues as well as speaking to influential football fans, the main thing holding us back was the Hillsborough inquiry. Now that's out the way there shouldn't be too much stopping us.

The Liverpool (& Everton) fans we're in touch with are all behind safe standing unnofically, but they know a fair few of the hillsborough families will blindly be against it regardless of the facts involved.

Safe standing is a case of when not if now regardless of what the families say IMO.... one clubs fans shouldn't hold back the rest of the countries!

It's a shame to hear that some people will blindly reject the idea - the standing wasn't what caused Hillsborough anyway, we all know it was the policing, crowd management and fences.

Am I right in thinking it can create quite a lot more ticket revenue? The individual seats are cheaper but you can fit ~1.5x as many people in so the overall income is higher - I imagine that eventually owners and clubs seeing the potential for increased revenue will win in the end, now they are approaching breaking point with seated ticket prices.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

It's a shame to hear that some people will blindly reject the idea - the standing wasn't what caused Hillsborough anyway, we all know it was the policing, crowd management and fences.

Am I right in thinking it can create quite a lot more ticket revenue? The individual seats are cheaper but you can fit ~1.5x as many people in so the overall income is higher - I imagine that eventually owners and clubs seeing the potential for increased revenue will win in the end, now they are approaching breaking point with seated ticket prices.

Wonder if that's true about reducing prices ?
What do Celtic charge when the seat is up ?
And what do they charge when its down as a seat ?
Anyone any ideas

 

[jonmcity]

Wonder if that's true about reducing prices ?
What do Celtic charge when the seat is up ?
And what do they charge when its down as a seat ?
Anyone any ideas

Champion league games will be more expensive in any case.

 

[Stretford Born Blue]

Let's wait ten years before claiming there's no chance. Ten years of consistently winning titles will see our fan base expand by a considerable amount. I'd say expanding both east and Colin bell stand is a certainty.

Not a chance they would extend the colin bell and east. We havent got the fan base to fill 70k+ stadium, and who in their right mind would want to sit all the way up there ?? its ridiculous right at the back now.
Also city didnt spend any money on the planners, it was Manchester City Council that made the olympic bid. was nothing to do with us.
Once the North stand is done and takes us to 61k i think it would be amazing if we fill that every week.

I think you're wrong in thinking we wouldn't fill a 70k plus stadium, even now. I've been going watching City for 40 odd years. Many of the fans I went with regularly in my early years as a supporter haven't been going for 2 decades for one reason or another, moving away, debt, work, family life etc. I sit in a group of 8 family and friends presently. If one or more can't make the game, their seat is always taken by another friend or acquaintance. I know more people that call themselves City fans who don't ever go to games, than do, and a similar number who go occasionally.
Millions of City fans exist, and the number grows by the day as our brand and success grows. If everybody I knew who were City fans went to 7 or 8 home games per season, we'd fill it no problem. Nearly 40% of our growing fan base is in the South East (taken from ticket and season card sales), you can see young kids everywhere wearing City tops, we have attracted the next younger generation already, those born over the next 5 to 10 years will also jump on the success bandwagon, just as kids did with the Rags, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in the past. The big difference now, which benefits City to no end, is that our owners vision for the future has ensured that we have already become a huge worldwide attraction to new fans (like it or lump it), and social media and the web ensures that the World hears and sees what we do as a club far quicker than the successful clubs in the past. City as a brand will overtake all other clubs within 10 years, probably far less, the fan base will grow hugely, we'll need a bigger stadium for the 'tourists', we need it now, 61000 will be just fine for a few years, but expect that to be too small in the not to distant future. I think in the meantime we will see around 65000 in the ground with some 'safe standing' added, not long after the North Stand expansion...?!

 

[1.618034]

It's a shame to hear that some people will blindly reject the idea - the standing wasn't what caused Hillsborough anyway, we all know it was the policing, crowd management and fences.

Am I right in thinking it can create quite a lot more ticket revenue? The individual seats are cheaper but you can fit ~1.5x as many people in so the overall income is higher - I imagine that eventually owners and clubs seeing the potential for increased revenue will win in the end, now they are approaching breaking point with seated ticket prices.

It's 1.8 times as many.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

I was watching 'Jungle Gold' on Quest last night about Gold hunters in Ghana

They get stopped down this dirt track in the middle of nowhere by a tribe wanting money to use their road

Fuck me if one of them was actually wearing a City top..couldn't believe it

Pre 2008 only time you'd see a City top outside of manc was on some beetroot tanned Gorton lad in Tenerife

Build it and they will come

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I think you're wrong in thinking we wouldn't fill a 70k plus stadium, even now. I've been going watching City for 40 odd years. Many of the fans I went with regularly in my early years as a supporter haven't been going for 2 decades for one reason or another, moving away, debt, work, family life etc. I sit in a group of 8 family and friends presently. If one or more can't make the game, their seat is always taken by another friend or acquaintance. I know more people that call themselves City fans who don't ever go to games, than do, and a similar number who go occasionally.
Millions of City fans exist, and the number grows by the day as our brand and success grows. If everybody I knew who were City fans went to 7 or 8 home games per season, we'd fill it no problem. Nearly 40% of our growing fan base is in the South East (taken from ticket and season card sales), you can see young kids everywhere wearing City tops, we have attracted the next younger generation already, those born over the next 5 to 10 years will also jump on the success bandwagon, just as kids did with the Rags, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in the past. The big difference now, which benefits City to no end, is that our owners vision for the future has ensured that we have already become a huge worldwide attraction to new fans (like it or lump it), and social media and the web ensures that the World hears and sees what we do as a club far quicker than the successful clubs in the past. City as a brand will overtake all other clubs within 10 years, probably far less, the fan base will grow hugely, we'll need a bigger stadium for the 'tourists', we need it now, 61000 will be just fine for a few years, but expect that to be too small in the not to distant future. I think in the meantime we will see around 65000 in the ground with some 'safe standing' added, not long after the North Stand expansion...?!

if your counting Facebook fans then yea i agree with you, but we are heavily reliant on local fans to fill our ground regularly, i agree that could change, but we dont have millions of fans if we did we would sell out every game no problem. but if we keep the prices low we dont have to become like united or liverpool and have a ground full of southerners or tourists, but grow that local core fan base. if the etihad were to end up like old trafford it would be awful - a ground where mancunians dont benefit in anyway. where do this 40% figure come from btw - source ?

 

[BAB.DAB]

I think you're wrong in thinking we wouldn't fill a 70k plus stadium, even now. I've been going watching City for 40 odd years. Many of the fans I went with regularly in my early years as a supporter haven't been going for 2 decades for one reason or another, moving away, debt, work, family life etc. I sit in a group of 8 family and friends presently. If one or more can't make the game, their seat is always taken by another friend or acquaintance. I know more people that call themselves City fans who don't ever go to games, than do, and a similar number who go occasionally.
Millions of City fans exist, and the number grows by the day as our brand and success grows. If everybody I knew who were City fans went to 7 or 8 home games per season, we'd fill it no problem. Nearly 40% of our growing fan base is in the South East (taken from ticket and season card sales), you can see young kids everywhere wearing City tops, we have attracted the next younger generation already, those born over the next 5 to 10 years will also jump on the success bandwagon, just as kids did with the Rags, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in the past. The big difference now, which benefits City to no end, is that our owners vision for the future has ensured that we have already become a huge worldwide attraction to new fans (like it or lump it), and social media and the web ensures that the World hears and sees what we do as a club far quicker than the successful clubs in the past. City as a brand will overtake all other clubs within 10 years, probably far less, the fan base will grow hugely, we'll need a bigger stadium for the 'tourists', we need it now, 61000 will be just fine for a few years, but expect that to be too small in the not to distant future. I think in the meantime we will see around 65000 in the ground with some 'safe standing' added, not long after the North Stand expansion...?!

Brilliant post totally agree I live in a market town in East lancs and the amount of kids I see wearing city shirts increase every year think the south stand will go safe standing hope the collar site works start soon investment means new jobs and new money in Manchester and this might benefit blues who can't afford to go to games Manchester economy improves so might they income and they can then afford to attend games
Build it and they will come
Keep prices reasonable
Create jobs
And we will fill it