Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

This thread is descending into fantasy once more. There is zero chance of getting a new tram line/heavy rail link or a fleet of electric buses or any other major capital investment to cover a maximum of 19 League matches, 8 cup ties and 6 European matches (33). The minimum will likely be 22 matches. On average 26-27 matches is about as high as it gets. What will this infrastructure be used for out of season and on non-match days?

Improving the public transport depends on other developments taking place and will always be constrained by the relatively short distance on the Campus from the City Centre. Many will continue to prefer to walk.

Obviously the Co-Op Live Arena will help, but much more, in the form of the likes of house building, will be needed before significant investment in public transportation could be justified.
 
JGL07 said:
This thread is descending into fantasy once more. There is zero chance of getting a new tram line/heavy rail link or a fleet of electric buses or any other major capital investment to cover a maximum of 19 League matches, 8 cup ties and 6 European matches (33). The minimum will likely be 22 matches. On average 26-27 matches is about as high as it gets. What will this infrastructure be used for out of season and on non-match days?

Improving the public transport depends on other developments taking place and will always be constrained by the relatively short distance on the Campus from the City Centre. Many will continue to prefer to walk.

Obviously the Co-Op Live Arena will help, but much more, in the form of the likes of house building, will be needed before significant investment in public transportation could be justified.
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Whilst I agree many on here get carried away by the idea of Etihad running a new metro or the fantasy that there will be a new fleet of electric buses, I disagree that there will only be 26 home games to support improvements.

There might be 26 City matches, but there are 6 stadium concerts and will be 120 Arena gigs added to the equation.

Then we have the thousands of residents living in new apartments between Piccadilly and the Etihad plus the hotels that are popping up and also proposed in the new North Stand development.

I understand there are so many complications but it’s up to the council and the integrated transport planners to come up with solutions.
 
I've mentioned this before, but there used to be a two-and-a-half minute interval trolley bus service as far as Edge Lane plus additional motor bus services on top. That's the level of service that's needed, and if we had it it would solve 95% of the problem. To get it back you need more housing density to replace the acres of wasteland and the extra attractions that are slowly being built around the stadium. It isn't rocket science. It isn't even expensive in the scheme of things.
 
Silver lake have had meetings with tfgm in regards to making an investment to purchase more trams and long term there will be more works in the area to make them more efficient...


The entire metrolink network runs at break even, the amount of people fare dodging means there is very little profit and it all has to go back in to the upkeep if the network, such as relaying the Eccles line which happened July - Oct...

Subject to funding and with the driver recruiting drive Metrolink aim to introduce a 6 min Eithad to Media City service. Which would make a difference on match day.
 
JGL07 said:
This thread is descending into fantasy once more. There is zero chance of getting a new tram line/heavy rail link or a fleet of electric buses or any other major capital investment to cover a maximum of 19 League matches, 8 cup ties and 6 European matches (33). The minimum will likely be 22 matches. On average 26-27 matches is about as high as it gets. What will this infrastructure be used for out of season and on non-match days?

Improving the public transport depends on other developments taking place and will always be constrained by the relatively short distance on the Campus from the City Centre. Many will continue to prefer to walk.

Obviously the Co-Op Live Arena will help, but much more, in the form of the likes of house building, will be needed before significant investment in public transportation could be justified.
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JGL07 said:
This thread is descending into fantasy once more. There is zero chance of getting a new tram line/heavy rail link or a fleet of electric buses or any other major capital investment to cover a maximum of 19 League matches, 8 cup ties and 6 European matches (33). The minimum will likely be 22 matches. On average 26-27 matches is about as high as it gets. What will this infrastructure be used for out of season and on non-match days?

Improving the public transport depends on other developments taking place and will always be constrained by the relatively short distance on the Campus from the City Centre. Many will continue to prefer to walk.

Obviously the Co-Op Live Arena will help, but much more, in the form of the likes of house building, will be needed before significant investment in public transportation could be justified.
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Not necessarily so.

The match day issue is more about organisation than investment particularly post match.

The numbers leaving the stadium and using the Metro are reasonably predictable after 10 years of operation.

Man has walked on the moon ....so why isn't it possible to run enough correctly sized trams for 1post match hour to city centre locations 3/4 miles away ?

To attempt to find excuses for this lamentable state of affairs is frankly pathetic.

Most informed people understand that the investment issue is now more difficult than it would've been at the outset but CITY are now responsible for generating £ MILLIONS £ for the Manchester economy that wasn't the case when Metro was first scoped.

The club will have had/will be having pragmatic discussions with Metro/Council about all issues, particularly with the Arena emerging and a capacity increase coming.

Perhaps we should be like the French and take direct action and randomly block the network, cos the status quo is not acceptable !!
 
Gone for a Burton said:
Not necessarily so.

The match day issue is more about organisation than investment particularly post match.

The numbers leaving the stadium and using the Metro are reasonably predictable after 10 years of operation.

Man has walked on the moon ....so why isn't it possible to run enough correctly sized trams for 1post match hour to city centre locations 3/4 miles away ?

To attempt to find excuses for this lamentable state of affairs is frankly pathetic.

Most informed people understand that the investment issue is now more difficult than it would've been at the outset but CITY are now responsible for generating £ MILLIONS £ for the Manchester economy that wasn't the case when Metro was first scoped.

The club will have had/will be having pragmatic discussions with Metro/Council about all issues, particularly with the Arena emerging and a capacity increase coming.

Perhaps we should be like the French and take direct action and randomly block the network, cos the status quo is not acceptable !!
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Would anyone notice the trams being blocked through ?
 
LongsightM13 said:
Hooters is coming soon to Salford Quays, shame the rag bastards get it and not us
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If It's anything like the one in Orlando on International Drive then they are welcome to it.
All tits and bums and can't pull a pint to save there lives.
 
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