Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[blueparrot]

Exactly, fill blocks with season ticket holders and leave entire blocks available for match day tickets. The blocks that Burnley sent back sold because they were reasonably priced and people could buy tickets together. It really isn’t rocket science.

No. but until there is another big relocation then it's not really poosible as those seats are already isolated

 

[Keeper!]

The worst thing about it is that there isn't an owner in any league who would turn the SL down if offered a place.

They HAVE to keep up with the rest. Any clubs left behind will never get back in.

Proper football is dead.

The Super league WILL happen it's just a question of when.

And as long as it's not a closed shop and all teams/ fans can dream to get in it, I am in all favour of it.

Football evolves, it has to and always has.

 

[Keeper!]

That's fine but why does a Arab billioanire have to have a different motivation than any other club. I don't buy the argument that Sheikh Mansour is a front for the UAE but that's a much discussed topic.

He is, Abu Dhabi is 900km2 , it's tiny, he is one of the main men, along with Khaldoon.

I would also add that as an advert for his Nation, it's a incredible success and at quite a small cost considering a vast majority of the worlds population know a great deal about said Nation and football club.

Newcastle is owned by Saudi.

So what?

Who cares apart from some racist bigots' American owners?

All clubs and all owners want to increase their fan bases, why would they not?

 

[Corky]

We have some games with seats at £30.Including some league games.

Almost all seats have started at £42, £50 and £62 for games this season in the PL depending on the game.

Seats were available at £30 for 3 so far in the last week or so, as well as Arsenal being reduced from £62 to £50.

Fans will start hanging on to buy tickets.

 

[Beaker]

No. but until there is another big relocation then it's not really poosible as those seats are already isolated

If it’s correct that the North stand level 1 as well as south stand level 1 are going to be standing next season which I think is the right thing to do by the way, then a lot of people are going to be moving in and out of those areas so then could be the time for a relocation. What the club need to do is to communicate any changes a lot earlier than they normally do, a couple of weeks before the season starts is no good.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Those £30 tickets only cropped up in the last week of sale because they were desperately trying to shift them. Until that point they were priced between £50 & £70. The fact that the tickets Burnley returned were priced at £30 and they all sold suggests to me that had all tickets been priced at £30 from the start they would have sold. The pricing structure is bollocks!!!

Absolutely correct. I was being quoted £54 for me and £32 for my 14-year-old only last week, as needed two together.

Not paying £86 to watch Burnley.

Managed to get a couple of comps from someone and they are row two, which won't be a great view but maybe shows the type of tickets the club knows it can't sell?

Anyhow, we're going, it's not cost me anything and looking forward to it.

 

[blueparrot]

Almost all seats have started at £42, £50 and £62 for games this season in the PL depending on the game.

Seats were available at £30 for 3 so far in the last week or so, as well as Arsenal being reduced from £62 to £50.

Fans will start hanging on to buy tickets.

Just had a quick look, Brentford, Brighton, Palace, Watford all start at £35, think Southampton did too .

 

[Corky]

Just had a quick look, Brentford, Brighton, Palace, Watford all start at £35, think Southampton did too .

Soton was £42 SSL, if you are having a look it is due to being a member and seeing the prices at £5 discounted, or the handful of front row tickets which are cheaper for some games (but not all) which make up less than 1% as most are season cards.

 

[Beaker]

Absolutely correct. I was being quoted £54 for me and £32 for my 14-year-old only last week, as needed two together.

Not paying £86 to watch Burnley.

Managed to get a couple of comps from someone and they are row two, which won't be a great view but maybe shows the type of tickets the club knows it can't sell?

Anyhow, we're going, it's not cost me anything and looking forward to it.

The thing is I’ve had my season ticket for years and years so never really paid attention to match ticket prices but this season my 8 year old wants to come to games with me and the prices they’re asking and the obstacles they’ve put in front of me to get him tickets has left me feeling really disenfranchised. It’s shameful really.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Those £30 tickets only cropped up in the last week of sale because they were desperately trying to shift them. Until that point they were priced between £50 & £70. The fact that the tickets Burnley returned were priced at £30 and they all sold suggests to me that had all tickets been priced at £30 from the start they would have sold. The pricing structure is bollocks!!!

Football clubs are as out of touch with the general public as politicians and political parties are.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

The thing is I’ve had my season ticket for years and years so never really paid attention to match ticket prices but this season my 8 year old wants to come to games with me and the prices they’re asking and the obstacles they’ve put in front of me to get him tickets has left me feeling really disenfranchised. It’s shameful really.

I feel the same. I deferred mine and my lad's season ticket because lost my business during Covid, but promised him we would try to get to as many as possible.

Sadly, having had my eyes opened to buying tickets on an ad-hoc basis, I can't justify paying the prices being quoted for games such as Burnley.

I laid out £35 each for matchday memberships for me and my dad, £20 for my son.

I've paid £880 for the five biggest games this season, so already in the hole for over a grand and not out of October or seen prices for PSG home game yet.

No kid under 16 should be paying more than £20 to come to any match, but football will kick the can down the road until which time there are not enough engaged to become matchday regulars.

Coupled with the farcical digital roll out and terrible customer support, people aren't delaying their family plans until Friday evening in the hope City suddenly slash the asking price by 40 per cent.

Structure is everything. Set prices for each stand, irrespective of opponent.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Football clubs are as out of touch with the general public as politicians and political parties are.

Let's face it, football clubs don't need to be in touch with the general public. They've already got the attention of big businesses and pander to those prepared to pay top prices.
The money is in TV and advertising, not us Berties with our pocket money. That's why the club decided to lose a few rows of seats for the sake of another row of advertising space.
Shit seats they may have been, but they nearly always sold and they weren't cheap. The adverts pay more than people.
It's a capitalist society. The rich aren't looking to benefit the 'less rich', they're throwing us a dream, offering us a few sweeteners and ruffling our hair every now and then when they want us to get 'on message'.
If people decide to pack up going to matches due to cost, the rich clubs know that someone else will pick up the slack.
It's the price of success. They only need us when times are bad.

 

[blueparrot]

Soton was £42 SSL, if you are having a look it is due to being a member and seeing the prices at £5 discounted, or the handful of front row tickets which are cheaper for some games (but not all) which make up less than 1% as most are season cards.

Yes, that would be with the £5 discount. Forgot that.

 

[Beaker]

I feel the same. I deferred mine and my lad's season ticket because lost my business during Covid, but promised him we would try to get to as many as possible.

Sadly, having had my eyes opened to buying tickets on an ad-hoc basis, I can't justify paying the prices being quoted for games such as Burnley.

I laid out £35 each for matchday memberships for me and my dad, £20 for my son.

I've paid £880 for the five biggest games this season, so already in the hole for over a grand and not out of October or seen prices for PSG home game yet.

No kid under 16 should be paying more than £20 to come to any match, but football will kick the can down the road until which time there are not enough engaged to become matchday regulars.

Coupled with the farcical digital roll out and terrible customer support, people aren't delaying their family plans until Friday evening in the hope City suddenly slash the asking price by 40 per cent.

Structure is everything. Set prices for each stand, irrespective of opponent.

Agree about set prices for each stand. Raising and lowering the prices based on opponent is a joke. Also they should put a pricing structure in place for the champions league. A set price for group games, then for last 16, then for quarter finals and semi final. I’d be much more inclined to join a cup scheme if I know what I’m going to pay in advance rather than it being at the whim of whoever sets the prices.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

That's fine but why does a Arab billioanire have to have a different motivation than any other club. I don't buy the argument that Sheikh Mansour is a front for the UAE but that's a much discussed topic.

You don't buy the argument despite the fact our own bloody CEO said we were a front for Abu Dhabi (soft power, geopolitics and a long-term investment fully aligned with the objectives of the emirate including make a shit ton of money)

You been told this a few times with explanations and evidence yet still you are in a weird denial. I don't get it.

 

[blueparrot]

I feel the same. I deferred mine and my lad's season ticket because lost my business during Covid, but promised him we would try to get to as many as possible.

Sadly, having had my eyes opened to buying tickets on an ad-hoc basis, I can't justify paying the prices being quoted for games such as Burnley.

I laid out £35 each for matchday memberships for me and my dad, £20 for my son.

I've paid £880 for the five biggest games this season, so already in the hole for over a grand and not out of October or seen prices for PSG home game yet.

No kid under 16 should be paying more than £20 to come to any match, but football will kick the can down the road until which time there are not enough engaged to become matchday regulars.

Coupled with the farcical digital roll out and terrible customer support, people aren't delaying their family plans until Friday evening in the hope City suddenly slash the asking price by 40 per cent.

Structure is everything. Set prices for each stand, irrespective of opponent.

If you are going to so many games what was you reason for deferring, if you don't mind me asking ?
Edit reread your post you've already explained ,sorry.

 

[yerwot?]

Let's face it, football clubs don't need to be in touch with the general public. They've already got the attention of big businesses and pander to those prepared to pay top prices.
The money is in TV and advertising, not us Berties with our pocket money. That's why the club decided to lose a few rows of seats for the sake of another row of advertising space.
Shit seats they may have been, but they nearly always sold and they weren't cheap. The adverts pay more than people.
It's a capitalist society. The rich aren't looking to benefit the 'less rich', they're throwing us a dream, offering us a few sweeteners and ruffling our hair every now and then when they want us to get 'on message'.
If people decide to pack up going to matches due to cost, the rich clubs know that someone else will pick up the slack.
It's the price of success. They only need us when times are bad.

sounds like classic "fuck the future, gimme the dosh now" , which we in the Uk have been subject to since the Romans left.

 

[Lavinda Past]

sounds like classic "fuck the future, gimme the dosh now" , which we in the Uk have been subject to since the Romans left.

No, they ARE planning for the future. It's just that many of us aren't a part of those plans.

They're not planning for our future, they're planning for theirs, and they're aiming to be ahead of the rest.

Enjoy the ride while you can, most of us will be limited to watching top level football on the TV within the next 10 years.

 

[jrb]

I feel the same. I deferred mine and my lad's season ticket because lost my business during Covid, but promised him we would try to get to as many as possible.

Sadly, having had my eyes opened to buying tickets on an ad-hoc basis, I can't justify paying the prices being quoted for games such as Burnley.

I laid out £35 each for matchday memberships for me and my dad, £20 for my son.

I've paid £880 for the five biggest games this season, so already in the hole for over a grand and not out of October or seen prices for PSG home game yet.

No kid under 16 should be paying more than £20 to come to any match, but football will kick the can down the road until which time there are not enough engaged to become matchday regulars.

Coupled with the farcical digital roll out and terrible customer support, people aren't delaying their family plans until Friday evening in the hope City suddenly slash the asking price by 40 per cent.

Structure is everything. Set prices for each stand, irrespective of opponent.

There have been many nails in the coffin for me. 9 continuous season ticket price rises was one of them. The 10th price rises was shelved, and season ticket prices were frozen because of the blacklash from the fans over the CL home match ticket prices. Can't remember who the match was against. Think it was Real Madrid? Stand corrected on that.

For me the nail that sticks out was the greedy and cynical price tiering of blocks and rows of seats in each stand. A horrible, divisive, but subtle manouver by the club to generate more match day revenue by stealth.

 

[Lavinda Past]

You don't buy the argument despite the fact our own bloody CEO said we were a front for Abu Dhabi (soft power, geopolitics and a long-term investment fully aligned with the objectives of the emirate including make a shit ton of money)

You been told this a few times with explanations and evidence yet still you are in a weird denial. I don't get it.

Anyone who thought that Mansour/ADUG bought City for football reasons in 2008 had their head in the sand. We're seeing a similar level of fan euphoria at Newcastle now. We choose to believe what suits our own personal agenda, and disregard the rest.

City = Abu Dhabi
Newcastle United = Saudi Arabia
2022 World Cup.... Need I go on...?

As outrageous as it sounds, Klopp's recent comment about teams playing against countries is far closer to the truth than traditional football fans would like to believe. It's not about football, it's about raising profiles by jumping on populist bandwagons and making more money.