Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread
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I’m sure both Hotels at Stamford Bridge, one attached to the stadium, have never made an operating profit?(stand corrected on that, but read it somewhere)
They were both going to be demolished as part of the Stamford Bridge redevelopment before that was abandoned after Roman had to sell Chelsea.
They were both going to be demolished as part of the Stamford Bridge redevelopment before that was abandoned after Roman had to sell Chelsea.
Yes that’s correct. Only CL sponsors are allowed to be advertised.
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I only just noticed last night that the club have to scramble the white & blue seats around in the north and south stands to hide the word Etihad and the Puma logo for CL games. What a palaver.
Hotel Football, opposite the Swamp, owned by Neville & Co made a loss.
It has been revealed that Hotel Football, the hospitality group owned by former Manchester United stars Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville, has lost £3.2 million over the last two years and owes more than £10 million in loans.
Annual accounts for the business, which were filed last week(September), show that the hotel has suffered financially due to the impact of the Covid pandemic and the subsequent national lockdowns.
The documents also revealed that the firm’s parent company, Orchid Leisure Ltd, had loaned the hotel business £10.2 million to ensure its survival.
Neville said that financial figures for 2022 have been “very encouraging”.
He added: “Based on the above the directors are confident that the company will have sufficient funds to meet its liabilities as they fall due for at least the next 12 months.’’
I’d like to see a mixed use Hotel/apartment tower, including a viewing lounge/bar built close to the stadium, preferably on the Collar Site.
The Hotel would be busy. The apartments would sell. (football, music & events, Asda ;-), tram stop into the city centre, etc) I’d certainly use the lounge/bar if it was similar to Cloud 23(Beetham tower) and 20 stories.(No1 Spinningfield), just for the views.
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MCFC and the Council formed a joint venture company in 2012 to develop land in the vicinity of the stadium, and back then (in fact, even before then), MCC was proclaiming its intention to work with the club to make the Campus a 24/7 destination. This included the creation of a "visitor attraction of international significance" on the Collar Site.
There are valid reasons why the Collar Site remains undeveloped all these years later, but as @jrb posted recently, it's nonetheless rather disappointing for those of us who took a strong interest in this project from the beginning. I was one, having at that time two pretty good contacts (one inside the club and one a professional adviser) who were providing very exciting snippets of information regarding what might happen. Both have long since moved on, incidentally, so I'm now in the dark rather than receiving news of encouraging prospects that never come to pass.
The arena isn't strictly on the Collar Site and I don't think it's what was originally meant as the "attraction of international significance" that was trailed out the outset. It will, however, attract additional numbers of visitors to the Campus numbering a couple of million or more annually, so hopefully will stimulate further development - hotel accommodation together with mixed use retail and leisure outlets offer an obvious synergy, and - who knows? - perhaps they might finally bring forth the stellar attraction that was originally being spoken of.
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I’d have thought most people would rather stay in Manchester apart from a convenience point of view.
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I have nothing professional to add but, if the club want 60+k then just build the new NS tier another x amount of rows higher than the SS.
As L3 gets higher the sweep creates more seats per row .
As L3 gets higher the sweep creates more seats per row .
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I think that's just due to the timing more than anything. Covid will have killed the revenues. Even with the arena though you're looking at 2-3 events a week and it's not a 24/7 destination. Any hotel should provide a state-of-the-art conference/convention centre so it attracts big businesses to come and use the facilities. They can stay in the hotel and they can go corporate to the football games. Arsenal and Spurs will have loads of boxes sold on company credit cards for entertaining. There's more going on near the swamp with Salford Quays there and the cricket ground - with a very good hotel that probably sells out first. And there's a lot of tourists at the swamp which we know. To attract more revenue at the football you need to try and attract more businesses with the big company money out to that part of Manchester and that's one way that could do it.
Asking the question.
Bar possible issues with the roof, which can be overcome, see below, is there any reason why City and their architects can’t retain level 1, keep it open, and build from the back of Level 1 after removing(demolishing level 2), and create a single tier similar to the one at Spurs?
I appreciate people are saying a single tier isn’t happening, but it could be done, couldn’t it?
Note: What looks like level one across the bottom levels, just infront of the entrnces/exits, seamlessly expands into the upper levels.
The side stand, level - 3, ends like the ES and CBS - level 3, but at a different angle.
Regardless of what City decide to do, the roof will have to be removed, realigned, and put back, just like it was when the SS was expanded.
Click on the link for more pictures and details.
Steelwork contractor Severfield supplied, fabricated, and installed 4,000t of structural steelwork for the job.
“We also dismantled the existing roof, carried out all temporary works and designed connections,” explains Severfield Project Manager Paul Hulme.
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Bar possible issues with the roof, which can be overcome, see below, is there any reason why City and their architects can’t retain level 1, keep it open, and build from the back of Level 1 after removing(demolishing level 2), and create a single tier similar to the one at Spurs?
I appreciate people are saying a single tier isn’t happening, but it could be done, couldn’t it?
Note: What looks like level one across the bottom levels, just infront of the entrnces/exits, seamlessly expands into the upper levels.
The side stand, level - 3, ends like the ES and CBS - level 3, but at a different angle.
Regardless of what City decide to do, the roof will have to be removed, realigned, and put back, just like it was when the SS was expanded.
Click on the link for more pictures and details.
Steelwork contractor Severfield supplied, fabricated, and installed 4,000t of structural steelwork for the job.
“We also dismantled the existing roof, carried out all temporary works and designed connections,” explains Severfield Project Manager Paul Hulme.
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Should the club not build the hotel here where the proposed super casino was to go, this building could house lots of different facilities including a hotels, club shop,club offices, bar resurant and other lesure facilities that would attract footfall during the day.
The reason for suggestion this is the hotel would five minute walk from the arena
Here is Spurs the shop just now , you fit something like that into the lower level of the super casino building above
Here is the Hydro in Glasgow its surrounded by hotels,Radisson Red with Sky Bar,The Village Hotel Spa & Gym, Hilton Garden,Premier Inn and the Crowne Plaza a different hotel covering different costs.
The new COOP Live arena is to be the biggest in the UK so you are going to need hotels so buiding a building simlar to the super casino building would help massively a hotel on the former gas holder site is no brainer as well
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Asking the question.
Bar possible issues with the roof, which could probably be overcome, is there any reason why City and their architects can’t retain level 1, keep it open, and build from the back of Level 1 after removing(demolishing level 2), and creating a single tier similar to the one at Spurs?
I appreciate people are saying a single tier isn’t happening, but it could be done, couldn’t it?
Note: What looks like level one across the bottom levels, just infront of the entrnces/exits, seamlessly expands into the upper levels.
Regardless of what City decide to do, the roof will have to be removed, realigned, and put back, just like it was when the SS was expanded.
Click on the link for more pictures and details.
Steelwork contractor Severfield supplied, fabricated, and installed 4,000t of structural steelwork for the job.
“We also dismantled the existing roof, carried out all temporary works and designed connections,” explains Severfield Project Manager Paul Hulme.
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Award: South Stand Expansion Etihad Stadium
With the stadium operational during the works, the challenging expansion of Manchester City’s Etihad Stadium South Stand has added 6,000 new seats. An architecturally sympathetic extension of an ex…
Level 1 is too shallow to be part of a single tier. It would mean the upper section would be too steep to join up with it if it were to be of a decent enough size.
A single tier is possible but they’d have to close the stand for a year or build over two years. In the latter situation they’d build the upper section first and then construct a new steeper lower section below it in the second year.
The club would probably think it was too costly to close a stand or do it over 2 seasons when they can do either a south stand copy or 2 tier stand for cheaper and in 1 season.
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Well done @jrb that is what I have been trying to say but got shouted down for suggesting itAsking the question.
Bar possible issues with the roof, which could probably be overcome, is there any reason why City and their architects can’t retain level 1, keep it open, and build from the back of Level 1 after removing(demolishing level 2), and creating a single tier similar to the one at Spurs?
I appreciate people are saying a single tier isn’t happening, but it could be done, couldn’t it?
Note: What looks like level one across the bottom levels, just infront of the entrnces/exits, seamlessly expands into the upper levels.
The side stand, level - 3, ends like the ES and CBS - level 3.
View attachment 59895
Regardless of what City decide to do, the roof will have to be removed, realigned, and put back, just like it was when the SS was expanded.
Click on the link for more pictures and details.
Steelwork contractor Severfield supplied, fabricated, and installed 4,000t of structural steelwork for the job.
“We also dismantled the existing roof, carried out all temporary works and designed connections,” explains Severfield Project Manager Paul Hulme.
View attachment 59891
View attachment 59892
Award: South Stand Expansion Etihad Stadium
With the stadium operational during the works, the challenging expansion of Manchester City’s Etihad Stadium South Stand has added 6,000 new seats. An architecturally sympathetic extension of an ex…
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That’s because it’s wrong :)
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Could they not build the expanded 2nd tier with the North Stand still open then when the season ends join them together then elevate the first tier?
Liverpool is doing something like this with their Anfield Road end