Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Bluemoonie92 said:
I think our main problem is the fact we dont have a song that can be continuously sang longer than a couple of minutes, we can go through the complete book in the first 10 mins.
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Agree. All of our songs bar a couple only go 1 or 2 rounds then finish that’s why the allez allez song has been sung so much at home games recently cos it’s easily repeatable same with the dzeko song.
Singing the blues should be our continuous song
 
BlueTG said:
Lincoln City have two blocks allocated for a supporters group known as the 617 squadron. They have a drum and sing non-stop for 90 minutes winning or losing, the sit down lot are next to them and don’t mind and it gets the stadium absolutely rocking. People stand up and join in all over the stadium when there are moments of excitement, sing and add to the atmosphere then sit down again whilst those blocks stand up. People have started to filter closer if they want that in there game and the others go slightly further down the stand. No dramas.

The players love it and reference the atmosphere all the time, I don’t see how it could be a bad thing in a 60,000 stadium to inject some atmosphere and life.
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Old fuckers( not me) normally hate change, so they will moan whatever. I agree try anything to improve the atmosphere. It would be brilliant to have the best team and the most vibrant fans. We have always had cardboard cut out fans, we used to have the Kippax to balance this out.
It seems across Europe there has been a resurgence of atmospheric grounds, be great if we could do the same. Against Southampton I thought the two guys sat next to me were dead, until after 80mins ,one said "are we off".
I would like a " City band", I would be on "tambourine", someone facing away from the pitch though , I do not like.
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
There's probably a separate debate to be had about what, if any, type of organised singing / chanting should be allowed in the new NS (or elsewhere for that matter).

I'm in SS3 & even though I'm in my 60s I'm more than happy to join in singing and so on. At times SS3 is absolutely rocking and to me that's great as it's entirely spontaneous. What I don't like is the continental organised groups with drums, megaphones etc and I don't think it sits well with average English football fans. The fact is if these are allowed in the North Stand then not only will a lot of people in there not like it but adjacent areas in CB & ES too.

My question would be why would a large end with safe standing need to be artificially pumped up to produce an atmosphere?
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I'm not saying it does. I know most fans are opposed to it. But if it was contained within a specific block in the middle of the safe standing stand, and a drum and/or a megaphone was used at right times during the match, rather than constantly throughout the match, it possibly could aid the atmosphere? Example. During quiet periods in the match, etc. I fully appreciate a drum hammered for 90 minutes is shit. And even I wouldn't want 1 person telling me and everyone else what to sing for 90 minutes. I think an acceptable compromise can be found. Even if it was just trialed for a few games. If it doesn't work, so be it.
 
jrb said:
I'm not saying it does. I know most fans are opposed to it. But if it was contained within a specific block in the middle of the safe standing stand, and a drum and/or a megaphone was used at right times during the match, rather than constantly throughout the match, it possibly could aid the atmosphere? Example. During quiet periods in the match, etc. I fully appreciate a drum hammered for 90 minutes is shit. And even I wouldn't want 1 person telling me and everyone else what to sing for 90 minutes. I think an acceptable compromise can be found. Even if it was just trialed for a few games. If it doesn't work, so be it.
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That seems fair to me. The all out Ultras robotic experience is totally bizarre anyway as the game seems to be totally irrelevant - especially for those thick ****s with their backs to the pitch!!!
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
That seems fair to me. The all out Ultras robotic experience is totally bizarre anyway as the game seems to be totally irrelevant - especially for those thick ****s with their backs to the pitch!!!
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In a ground of 60,000 plus there must be room for City fans to experiment and find their way of making supporting City more fun. I am sure we can do this. We should keep talking. First thing is to get that stand built and make it all official. I would love to see the designs. Until I see them, I don't really see how I can comment and say anything meaningful. So far it feels vague. I am just impatient!
 
kev20971 said:
I always wonder if they could build two platforms next to the lines behind the Merc garage, two long platforms from Ashton New Rd to the other road bridge near the athletics stadium?
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There's the added complication of HS2 too. Not sure anything could be done before that happens (if it does)
 
domalino said:
Spurs' new stadium has rail seating, obviously City are planning on building the north stand with it, Chelsea a new Stamford bridge plans include it, Liverpool have contacted the fans about it.

Its clear that all of the major premier league clubs are preparing for safe standing to be allowed in the near future.
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Spurs' new stadium has rail seating,...Think your getting mixed scaffolding poles mate..
 
northwichblue said:
What the fuck is rail seating
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Ardwick Green Blue said:
I have a feeling some on here are getting carried away with the potential demand for safe standing. I'm happy for safe standing to be introduced into part of the revamped North Stand and maybe in part of the South Stand but personally I don't want to stand at matches any more and I suspect many other current seasoncard holders would feel the same. I moved into 316 when SS3 opened having previously been in ES3 & before that the Family Stand. I'm very happy with my current seat and would have no intention of moving. The atmosphere in SS3 is probably the best in the stadium in my view, although I reckon it would be enhanced by a vocal North Stand to bounce off.

The idea that the entire revamped North Stand would be taken up by safe standing isn't happening in my opinion. The entire first tier and a bit at the top of the upper tier maybe. As for the South Stand, maybe the bottom tier and a bit at the back of the third tier.
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I know lads who don’t go anymore who’d come back if we had a proper vocal stand.
 
Bluemoonie92 said:
I think our main problem is the fact we dont have a song that can be continuously sang longer than a couple of minutes, we can go through the complete book in the first 10 mins.
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David Silva Ole (repeat for 20 minutes) and plenty of others.

Reasons City fans don't sing - number 427 - "we don't have a song that can be continuously sang longer than a couple of minutes".
 
asahartford1 said:
Old fuckers( not me) normally hate change, so they will moan whatever. I agree try anything to improve the atmosphere. It would be brilliant to have the best team and the most vibrant fans. We have always had cardboard cut out fans, we used to have the Kippax to balance this out.
It seems across Europe there has been a resurgence of atmospheric grounds, be great if we could do the same. Against Southampton I thought the two guys sat next to me were dead, until after 80mins ,one said "are we off".
I would like a " City band", I would be on "tambourine", someone facing away from the pitch though , I do not like.
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I'm an old fucker and I want a drum.
 
The club has to use the stand to attract vocal support. I know from a mate who supports palace that they set up an "ultras" group that all made the effort to get in the same part of the Holmesdale and it has grown and grown and the whole stand joins in as well as those in the Arthur Wait stand adjacent and next to the away fans. Palace is a standard old ground and if they can do it any club can.

City have to get the vocal fans in one area and rail seating will help the atmosphere. If they can bring new fans in who are keen and able to attend if it is an atmospheric parts of the ground then that will help.

If non-vocal supporters get bumped to other areas then that is an impact worth making. I would rather upset some silent fans for the sake of finally addressing the poor atmosphere, than let it continue. I was at the Hamburg game and United league cup semi and the atmosphere was insane. Cheap tickets probably helped attract more vocal working class supporters but there must have been the same fans that still go today predominantly. The Hamburg fans had a megaphone and when Blue Moon rang out they stopped in awe of how loud it was...so we can do it. It was echoing around the stadium. And the team responded. Getting the NS expansion right and getting a home "end" would be amazing. Several thousand all singing the same songs throughout the game would see it spread more often than not throughout the ground. On European nights and big league games that would put an added dimension on things and extra pressure on the opposition.

It needs thorough planning and the club through the fan forum will hopefully nail it. It will never please all but we moved into the stadium the same way West Ham moved into theirs and suffer the same problems. A purpose built stadium like Spurs will still face teething problems but at least it is designed with football in mind.

Away fans need to move, the family stand needs to move and tickets need to be sold to families more appropriately to secure future support. Hospitality needs to be away from the atmospheric parts to avoid interrupting it and City fans need to work together to get things sorted. Adding 8,000 seats to the north stand could see an end with what, 14,000 blues all pretty much singing?! That would be epic. And others would join too.
 
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