Northerndave
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Yes, lazy gits nowadays.
I park 20 mins from the ground and walk, never a problem getting away unless roadworks in Town which can't be helped as much as a pain in the arse they are.
Getting across Mcr is a different story on Mid week games though.
KeolisAmey Metrolink aim to deliver a reliable service to our customers. We want to share with you how we are performing.
Metrolink’s ‘London-style’ pay-as-you-go contactless system is proving more popular than ever, with more than 5 million journeys now having been made since its launch.
More than five million contactless journeys made on Metrolink
Metrolink’s ‘London-style’ pay-as-you-go contactless system is proving more popular than ever, with more than 5 million journeys now having been made since its launch.
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If Greater Manchester requires a unified livery for all the local buses working within its boundaries, what colour/colours should it be?
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- The new lines have removed 38.8 million car kilometres per year from our roads - contributing towards Greater Manchester’s goal of 50% of all journeys being made by public transport and active travel by 2040.
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Northerndave
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But you were coming back with an update on the plans that showed how importantly the groups involved in the Etihad campus were taking transport, not some TfGM propaganda in support of their system churned out to support Burnham's visions.
KeolisAmey Metrolink aim to deliver a reliable service to our customers. We want to share with you how we are performing.
Metrolink’s ‘London-style’ pay-as-you-go contactless system is proving more popular than ever, with more than 5 million journeys now having been made since its launch.
More than five million contactless journeys made on Metrolink
Metrolink’s ‘London-style’ pay-as-you-go contactless system is proving more popular than ever, with more than 5 million journeys now having been made since its launch.news.tfgm.com
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If Greater Manchester requires a unified livery for all the local buses working within its boundaries, what colour/colours should it be?
Skyacrapeecity - Gtr Manchester Transport thread.
Greater Manchester Transport Projects
Transport Matters For Greater Manchester and Surrounding Areas
- The new lines have removed 38.8 million car kilometres per year from our roads - contributing towards Greater Manchester’s goal of 50% of all journeys being made by public transport and active travel by 2040.
Metrolink brings major benefits to communities, clean air and congestion
Unprecedented expansion programme has trebled the size of the network, making Metrolink the largest light rail system in the UK Millions of car journeys taken from city-region’s roads and thousands of tonnes of CO2 saved Significant improvement in access to employment, further education, and...news.tfgm.com
Oh and almost 1 in 5 trams on the Ashton line and 1 in 8 overall failed to arrive on time. Pretty far from world class.
No I wasn't. I never said I was. I gave a snippet. I stated I couldn't and wouldn't post anymore info as the info I had been told was still being discussed and has yet to be agreed, if it ever does get agreed? I've told everyone on here what I can in good faith. I won't say anymore.
You seem to have a downer with Metrolink, Dave. That's your opinion, which you're entitled to. Other people like me, like Metrolink, and see it as a valuable asset for the city.(even with it's teething problems) What I've posted isn't propaganda, it's fact, be it good or bad.
Let's hope Burnham's vision happens and Gtr Manchester get's the funding from the Governemnt to fund a truly intergrated and affordable public transport network aross Gtr Manchester, not just Metrolink.
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These revised services will remain under continual review. The MediaCityUK to Etihad Campus service and the later running weekend trams will be reintroduced at the earliest opportunity, subject to staff availability.
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I'll leave it at that before I get bogged down in (Metrolink) trench warfare.
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Can i have a 75000 capacity stadium announced at Xmas please.
tolmie's hairdoo
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We won't be getting an increased capacity stadium - perhaps not ever now. A decision has been made the addition of further safe standing areas, to include the North Stand lower, coupled with improving the facade of the stadium and surrounding footprint is where the money needs to be right now.
The suits feel the addition of CO-OP Live will drive profits much more and quicker, than a ROR on adding another 8,000 seats.
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I think Metro is pretty good at off-peak times. I don't think you can blame them for transport shambles at the Etihad because the infrastructure is just not in place. I think the club and the council need to get together to solve the issues. They have worked closely together on building homes so there is no reason why this should not happen.No I wasn't. I never said I was. I gave a snippet. I stated I couldn't and wouldn't post anymore info as the info I had been told was still being discussed and has yet to be agreed, if it ever does get agreed? I've told everyone on here what I can in good faith. I won't say anymore.
You seem to have a downer with Metrolink, Dave. That's your opinion, which you're entitled to. Other people like me, like Metrolink, and see it as a valuable asset for the city.(even with it's teething problems) What I've posted isn't propaganda, it's fact, be it good or bad.
Let's hope Burnham's vision happens and Gtr Manchester get's the funding from the Governemnt to fund a truly intergrated and affordable public transport network aross Gtr Manchester, not just Metrolink.
Some more stats.
4. Look Forward.
4.3
These revised services will remain under continual review. The MediaCityUK to Etihad Campus service and the later running weekend trams will be reintroduced at the earliest opportunity, subject to staff availability.
Greater Manchester Transport Committee. 17th September 2021.
Next Metrolink meeting, Nov 12.
Home
Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) - working together to improve the lives of people in Greater Manchester - Bolton, Bury, Manchester, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford, Wigan
I'll leave it at that before I get bogged down in (Metrolink) trench warfare.
I have always though shuttle buses from Ashbury station to the ground would be a decent solution though that would require a revamp of the station because of safety concerns. You could move a lot of people from Piccadilly Station using bigger trains than the trams. Perhaps ADUG could pay for it and the station could be called Manchester City FC or whoever our sponsor was at the time. When the arena opens this may be viable. There are also lots of new homes being built down there.
HelloCity
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The metrolink service to Ashton after a game is absolutely appalling most of the time.
No additional trams are put on and they stick to the usual timetable which can be an absolute killer after a night game.
Not only that but they will send single units rather than doubles as well.
It means that you can be waiting quite a while after a game and the build up of people combined with a single unit means things can get dangerous.
Ive personally been on a tram where so many people got on after me that I was struggling to catch my breath, and I’ve seen kids struggling as well.
Not what I would call a great service.
No additional trams are put on and they stick to the usual timetable which can be an absolute killer after a night game.
Not only that but they will send single units rather than doubles as well.
It means that you can be waiting quite a while after a game and the build up of people combined with a single unit means things can get dangerous.
Ive personally been on a tram where so many people got on after me that I was struggling to catch my breath, and I’ve seen kids struggling as well.
Not what I would call a great service.
HelloCity
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I think it’s the right decision.
The demand clearly isn’t there right now for another 6-8k seats. If the demand isn’t there now with Pep and this current team then it won’t be there when we drop off a bit under our next manager. Covid, ticketing policies and prices aren’t really helping the situation much either.
The demand for 60k+ will come in the future when all the kids who support City growing up around the country (and the world) get to the age where they want to start coming to games. Like Utd and Liverpool we’ll have hundreds if not thousands of fans coming up from down south. It just takes a couple of decades of sustained success to build that level of support and for the kids watching it to become old enough to travel.
tolmie's hairdoo
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I'm not up to speed on safe standing and what impact that may have on the present capacity?
As you say, they also need to get the ticketing and pricing structure right, because that's what keeping even dyed-in-the-wool away from some games at present, added to improving the surrounding transport options.
Better to spend £10m on another Metro stop and some exclusive shuttle buses, than spend £85m right now on another 8k seats.
HelloCity
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My understanding as things are right now is that standing will only be allowed on a ratio of one person per ‘seat’, so would not lead to an increase in capacity.
I suspect that if safe standing goes well over a period of time then the clubs will ask if they can move towards a ratio of 1.5 people per ‘seat’, which I think is similar to what they have in Germany.
That would mean if we had 6k standing ‘seats’ behind both goals then we could bring in another 3k at each end, bringing domestic capacity up by 6k - and thus meaning that we wouldn’t actually need to develop a new expansion.
Not only the tram service. Last 2 night games there have been no buses and I’ve had to walk 2 miles to get home.
Bizarre that there’s dozens of buses lined up to go to town but nothing going the other way.
tolmie's hairdoo
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That would explain a lot, as I was told the club felt safe standing would be more cost-effective in the long run.
An extra 6k would take the Etihad to around 58,000 and if they really had the demand, they could always put back the 2500 seats taken away this summer for the hoardings.
Pennies in comparison.
Was told the roof was a priority.
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Thanks tolmie I’m now depressed and the weekend is only just starting. :-(
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I wouldn't be depressed. Stadium capacity is a social media dick measuring contest.
By the sound of things, we might get an exterior makeover that has been long overdue.
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I understand your thinking on this but may I add that the same was said when we we’re about to increase the capacity last time and that didn’t turn out too shoddy. We definitely need to build the other end of the ground and I guarantee it will be filled( not all matches granted).when our rivals are increasing their capacity to over 60000 we will look a little bit small time.
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HelloCity
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When the South Stand was built we were selling out every league game with a surplus demand for 6k+ extra tickets.
When we sell out the expanded stadium there isn’t a demand for thousands more tickets after the current capacity is met apart from the really big games.
We also lost around 2k seats in the summer and haven’t sold out a couple of league games even at a reduced capacity.
We’re actually losing fans coming to games rather than gaining them at the moment due to Covid, pricing, ticket policies and fans jacking it in for other reasons as well.
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Bit of a shame about an extension but can see the logic in their thinking.
I was going to mention the roof myself, it's coming to the end of it's useful life isn't it?