Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread



Just spotted this on Twitter. New Islington green on the tram line on the way to the ground. Sad to see green space like this go. More apartments I’m told
 
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UUJblue said:


Just spotted this on Twitter. New Islington green on the tram line on the way to the ground. Sad to see green space like this go. More apartments I’m told
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confused looking at the picture all I can see is a tiny amount of green grass at the side of the a tram line which would not serve any function either as a building plot or a green space
 
Corky said:
All houses were fields once and this is a poor quality site adjoining the tram lines. Normally dog walkers complain as they have less places for their dog to shit.
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Bullshit. It's hammered whenever the sun is out and was always a really good vibe - people just relaxing in the sun with a few drinks, food and bbqs, bit of music then you can just walk over to the marina for drinks when the sun goes down. Big loss and I'm not sure there is any reasonable substitute on that side of the city. May be a tram job to st Philips Park unless the new park at Piccadilly comes up trumps. Don't think angel meadows gets much sun or has enough grass to cope
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
Bullshit. It's hammered whenever the sun is out and was always a really good vibe - people just relaxing in the sun with a few drinks, food and bbqs, bit of music then you can just walk over to the marina for drinks when the sun goes down. Big loss and I'm not sure there is any reasonable substitute on that side of the city. May be a tram job to st Philips Park unless the new park at Piccadilly comes up trumps. Don't think angel meadows gets much sun or has enough grass to cope
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It was always designated for development. Those who live near it will all be from the awful looking new flats, and would be aware of its intended use when they leased them.
 
The old mercedes garage would make a perfect station and car park
i beleive this line can loop back toward victoria.
With the regeneration and the indoor arena it make sense to have a main station
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
I think the lack of green space in Manchester is an issue. We are missing a big park/ something similar
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Pomona Docks was our opportunity to do something special but the council and developers decided on more apartments and the one's near the Castlefield end look like they were designed by a 12 year old (no offence to 12 year old architects). The Councils approve all these apartment blocks with the developer saying 500 flats 10 car park spaces needed and when finished all the roads are over crowded with cars being parked.
 
Oldtraffordblue1 said:
Pomona Docks was our opportunity to do something special but the council and developers decided on more apartments and the one's near the Castlefield end look like they were designed by a 12 year old (no offence to 12 year old architects). The Councils approve all these apartment blocks with the developer saying 500 flats 10 car park spaces needed and when finished all the roads are over crowded with cars being parked.
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Developers also frequently say things like 500 flats, 10% social housing on the plans submitted and approved.
By the time of finishing, this has changed to 510 flats, 10 (number) social housing… and the council still signs it off.
 
JASR said:
Developers also frequently say things like 500 flats, 10% social housing on the plans submitted and approved.
By the time of finishing, this has changed to 510 flats, 10 (number) social housing… and the council still signs it off.
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They also go as far to say "won't make a profit if do it" and therefore get let off, don't know if the council go back and check their books and take a contribution if the developers forecasts were under egged
 
Oldtraffordblue1 said:
They also go as far to say "won't make a profit if do it" and therefore get let off, don't know if the council go back and check their books and take a contribution if the developers forecasts were under egged
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I think from what I’ve heard, each estate is done under a separate company, so if the council goes after them , they just fold that single company - having got the money by selling the properties already, and passed it via accounting measures to the real company in control.

The above might be bullshit, but it’s been stuck in my head for 30 years, after a conversation with someone who moved onto a new estate. And I think I may have read it multiple times in PE
 
JASR said:
I think from what I’ve heard, each estate is done under a separate company, so if the council goes after them , they just fold that single company - having got the money by selling the properties already, and passed it via accounting measures to the real company in control.

The above might be bullshit, but it’s been stuck in my head for 30 years, after a conversation with someone who moved onto a new estate. And I think I may have read it multiple times in PE
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No that happens a consequence of limited liability. Also of interest are the loans these big developers get from the council doubt much smaller operators get them they have to rely on the banks
 
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