Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Corporate hospitality & the hotel will be hugely complementary as I think a lot of the corporate clients will likely stop over at the hotel rather than town.
On site parking, proximity to Piccadilly Station and an adjacent tram stop plus Coop Live makes it not just an attractive corporate matchday hotel but also as a base to extend their stay in Manchester and bring family.
 
ASDA in TURMOIL...
The itk retail and business analysts are saying ASDA's decline in market share is truly shocking. Even more shocking is the trend analysis, it looks like melt down and sadly job losses are only one business quarter away. Recovery may include selling off the largest unprofitable sites. I have absolutely no wish for everyone to lose their jobs and hopefully the business can be saved. However if it can't and the Eastlands retail space goes on the market it would be a huge opportunity for the club to acquire the site. Looking on Google earth its obvious it would compete the existing footprint either side of Ashton New Road.
Do we need anymore footprint ? Not sure of anything else we could do apart from a huge bus/coach park to alleviate the nightmare of match day parking. How about a Mega Mary Ds, although I doubt the club would go there. You may have noticed I ain't no property/business development person, but curious what could the club do there ? ...
 
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ASDA in TURMOIL...
The itk retail and business analysts are saying ASDA's decline in market share is truly shocking. Even more shocking is the trend analysis, it looks like melt down and sadly job losses are only one business quarter away. Recovery may include selling off the largest unprofitable sites. I have absolutely no wish for everyone to lose their jobs and hopefully the business can be saved. However if it can't and the Eastlands retail space goes on the market it would be a huge opportunity for the club to acquire the site. Looking on Google earth its obvious it would compete the existing footprint either side of Ashton New Road.
Do we need anymore footprint ? Not sure of anything else we could do apart from a huge bus/coach park to alleviate the nightmare of match day parking. How about a Mega Mary Ds, although I doubt the club would go there. You may have noticed I ain't no property/business development person, but curious what could the club do there ? ...
I cannot see ASDA being in much trouble
 
ASDA in TURMOIL...
The itk retail and business analysts are saying ASDA's decline in market share is truly shocking. Even more shocking is the trend analysis, it looks like melt down and sadly job losses are only one business quarter away. Recovery may include selling off the largest unprofitable sites. I have absolutely no wish for everyone to lose their jobs and hopefully the business can be saved. However if it can't and the Eastlands retail space goes on the market it would be a huge opportunity for the club to acquire the site. Looking on Google earth its obvious it would compete the existing footprint either side of Ashton New Road.
Do we need anymore footprint ? Not sure of anything else we could do apart from a huge bus/coach park to alleviate the nightmare of match day parking. How about a Mega Mary Ds, although I doubt the club would go there. You may have noticed I ain't no property/business development person, but curious what could the club do there ? ...
Sadly, the club are not in the business of making parking easier, and are actively discouraging car travel. The site would make a great water park / log flume, though.
Maybe they could turn the site into some sort of transport hub as the Metrolink station could become the main site, but they would probably charge 30 quid to park. I can just picture 2 more Nexen bridges!!
 
I wouldn't put money on that, they've struggled since the Issa brothers bought it from Walmart using leveraged loans.
It’s massive tho there is struggling in terms of market share and then there is struggling enough to warrant selling sites and selling that specific site or worse going bust. Plus the Issa brothers will have a clever plan to merge the two business and cut costs and open to locations synergies as they say
 
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Sadly, the club are not in the business of making parking easier, and are actively discouraging car travel. The site would make a great water park / log flume, though.
Maybe they could turn the site into some sort of transport hub as the Metrolink station could become the main site, but they would probably charge 30 quid to park. I can just picture 2 more Nexen bridges!!
Don’t see how city would make money from transport they will more entertainment plans
 
Sadly, the club are not in the business of making parking easier, and are actively discouraging car travel. The site would make a great water park / log flume, though.
Maybe they could turn the site into some sort of transport hub as the Metrolink station could become the main site, but they would probably charge 30 quid to park. I can just picture 2 more Nexen bridges!!
They did say in the earlier video, using your car would be discouraged, but alternatively using public transport would give you payback. How they work that out, I don't know.
 
Wasnt it said moons ago that the training campus wasnt actually complete and the plan was for it to be both sides of the new rd.
 
It’s massive tho there is struggling in terms of market share and then there is struggling enough to warrant selling sites and selling that specific site or worse going bust. Plus the Issa brothers will have a clever plan to merge the two business and cut costs and open to locations synergies as they say
One of the brothers has recently sold his shares to a private equity firm (Issa) and the other (Mohsin) is reckoned to not be up to the job and may be ousted as far as I can see. As well as the leveraged buyout in the first place and their unwillingness to show the books to anyone it puts me in mind of that scruffy lot down the road.

Private equity firms are all about profit so if a store isn't pulling it's weight then they will cut it lose. I have no idea how the one at the Etihad performs but it is ridiculously big and must have huge overheads. Never forget as well, that the Sheikh and his people know everybody.
 
Wasnt it said moons ago that the training campus wasnt actually complete and the plan was for it to be both sides of the new rd.
I think it's been suggested that they need more space. It's also been suggested that eventually we'll build a new stadium where the campus is and swap them over but if true, most of us will be dead by then.
 
I think it's been suggested that they need more space. It's also been suggested that eventually we'll build a new stadium where the campus is and swap them over but if true, most of us will be dead by then.

I seem to remember the chat about furthering the academy being seperate to the notion of a new ground..think it was not long after the academy opened..along with the bridge and it not being so far out if we see another bridge.

Either way it's all a long way from johnsons wire works and blue dye in your washing.
 
If you Google 'Asda in financial trouble', there are loads of articles about it. Some of the articles make for interesting reading.
 
I seem to remember the chat about furthering the academy being seperate to the notion of a new ground..think it was not long after the academy opened..along with the bridge and it not being so far out if we see another bridge.

Either way it's all a long way from johnsons wire works and blue dye in your washing.
The decontamination of the old Clayton Aniline was a major hint of what was to come.
A year or more was needed to clear the soil of its many cancer causing chemicals including the intermediate. "Aniline" itself.
Out with the old and in with the new.

Thank you Sheikh Mansour.
 
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Conclusions & Observations The land uses of the immediate surroundings to the south and east are dominated by residential and education land uses. There is very little retail/commercial offer on the site apart from a small Tesco Express, and a large Asda Superstore to the northeast. The site is lacking convenient amenity for residents. North of the site is dominated by the Etihad Campus, with the large Manchester City Training Ground to the east along Alan Turing Way. Future plans will create lots of F&B within the planned Leisure and Entertainment Zone of the Etihad Campus. A number of transport links are located in the area including the Velopark Metrolink and many bus routes along Ashton New Road and Alan Turing Way
The Etihad Stadium and the Manchester City Academy Stadium are clear visual landmarks in the area, with visibility from a wide area surrounding. Retaining this dominance is felt to be strategically important for the function and legibility of access for users. The scale of the planned expansion for the Leisure & Entertainment Zone is yet unknown, but would be expected that this would be in context with the stadium and as such a step in scale from the Grey Mare Lane Estate and bringing this increased scale in closer context. The housing within the estate is a mix of 2 storey housing and 3 storey maisonettes focused around the Grey Mare Lane spine road. The new development around the Beswick Hub is a mix of larger 3 and 4 commercial storey heights, providing a clear emphasis to the south.
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Conclusions & Observations The land uses of the immediate surroundings to the south and east are dominated by residential and education land uses. There is very little retail/commercial offer on the site apart from a small Tesco Express, and a large Asda Superstore to the northeast. The site is lacking convenient amenity for residents. North of the site is dominated by the Etihad Campus, with the large Manchester City Training Ground to the east along Alan Turing Way. Future plans will create lots of F&B within the planned Leisure and Entertainment Zone of the Etihad Campus. A number of transport links are located in the area including the Velopark Metrolink and many bus routes along Ashton New Road and Alan Turing Way
The Etihad Stadium and the Manchester City Academy Stadium are clear visual landmarks in the area, with visibility from a wide area surrounding. Retaining this dominance is felt to be strategically important for the function and legibility of access for users. The scale of the planned expansion for the Leisure & Entertainment Zone is yet unknown, but would be expected that this would be in context with the stadium and as such a step in scale from the Grey Mare Lane Estate and bringing this increased scale in closer context. The housing within the estate is a mix of 2 storey housing and 3 storey maisonettes focused around the Grey Mare Lane spine road. The new development around the Beswick Hub is a mix of larger 3 and 4 commercial storey heights, providing a clear emphasis to the south.
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Is the 6 form being expanded there is a new building going next to it on those plans also What’s the prong building grey mark near it
 
The decontamination of the old Clayton Aniline was a major hint of what was to come.
A year or more was needed to clear the soil of its many cancer causing chemicals including the intermediate. "Aniline" itself.
Out with the old and in with the new.

Thank you Sheikh Mansour.
I worked at Clayton Aniline as an apprentice and their strange tasting tap water never did me any harm, although my prison psychiatrist may disagree.
 
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Conclusions & Observations The land uses of the immediate surroundings to the south and east are dominated by residential and education land uses. There is very little retail/commercial offer on the site apart from a small Tesco Express, and a large Asda Superstore to the northeast. The site is lacking convenient amenity for residents. North of the site is dominated by the Etihad Campus, with the large Manchester City Training Ground to the east along Alan Turing Way. Future plans will create lots of F&B within the planned Leisure and Entertainment Zone of the Etihad Campus. A number of transport links are located in the area including the Velopark Metrolink and many bus routes along Ashton New Road and Alan Turing Way
The Etihad Stadium and the Manchester City Academy Stadium are clear visual landmarks in the area, with visibility from a wide area surrounding. Retaining this dominance is felt to be strategically important for the function and legibility of access for users. The scale of the planned expansion for the Leisure & Entertainment Zone is yet unknown, but would be expected that this would be in context with the stadium and as such a step in scale from the Grey Mare Lane Estate and bringing this increased scale in closer context. The housing within the estate is a mix of 2 storey housing and 3 storey maisonettes focused around the Grey Mare Lane spine road. The new development around the Beswick Hub is a mix of larger 3 and 4 commercial storey heights, providing a clear emphasis to the south.
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Is this a new plan or a previous one?
 

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